Today’s attack on the Ox comes to us from the Ray McBerry Campaign.

by Buzz Brockway on July 7, 2009

{ 118 comments }

I Am Jacks Post July 7, 2009 at 11:20 pm

Jeesh, self-absorbed much?

Bill Simon July 7, 2009 at 11:35 pm

Umm…let’s see..she’s a happy go-lucky girl who likes sharing her joyful mood with the world, and YOU get pissed-off at the fact that she’s happy and recording a video about for jackasses like you to view?

IAJP: Here’s an original thought: DON’T go on the Web. DON’T view videos. Remain in your darkened, dimly lit world and DON’T interact with the outside world. You’ll be happier for it. As will the rest of us.

I Am Jacks Post July 7, 2009 at 11:42 pm

Bill, you’re just happy because you this is one video you didn’t have to pay for.

Bill Simon July 7, 2009 at 11:48 pm: LOL!

gapeach715 July 7, 2009 at 11:41 pm

I respect that she gets her opinions out and is an activist for things she believes in. But isn’t she running a campaign? Shouldn’t she be a little more professional? In my opinion it really reflects poorly on her candidate.

Bill Simon July 8, 2009 at 9:47 am: In my opinion it really reflects poorly on her candidate.

But, who are you that anyone should care what your opinion is?

Jason Shepherd July 7, 2009 at 11:43 pm

Amen Bill, but Jenny…who’s Bobby? Does Jon know about Bobby? I didn’t know about Bobby. I thought it may be Bobby Franklin, but it didn’t sound like Bobby Franklin.

jenny July 8, 2009 at 8:33 am: It’s Bobby Franklin.

I Am Jacks Post July 7, 2009 at 11:43 pm

And “happy go lucky”? Nearly every video–and post, for that matter– is some sort of rant.

Bill Simon July 7, 2009 at 11:51 pm: Yeah, but she….wait a minute…how would YOU know “nearly every video” of Jenny’s is some sort of rant? Watching every single one of them, huh? Got a secret “crush” on Jenny, IAJP?

Bill Simon July 7, 2009 at 11:49 pm

It was Bobby Franklin.

Doug Deal July 7, 2009 at 11:54 pm

Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.

The group of people on Segways in the background. What a bunch of dorks.

Chris July 8, 2009 at 6:53 am

I can’t believe ya’ll made me watch a Just Jenny.

Bill Simon July 8, 2009 at 8:03 am: Be careful, Chris…you might be the next person to get “Just Jenney-ed”.

Kellie July 8, 2009 at 7:14 am

I love Jenny! She get’s the best stabs in. lol

IndyInjun July 9, 2009 at 8:17 pm: So, are we to call yours Knifing with Kellie?

B Balz July 8, 2009 at 7:26 am

In my opinion, John Oxendine would be a poor choice for high public office.

There, a legitimate Ox attack. I await the Noxies.

Ronald Daniels July 8, 2009 at 7:44 am

Noxies – hm.

Can we call Jenny a “McBerrlusional”? You know, McBerry + Delusional?

Despite the fact that I agree with many of McBerry’s stances, the fact of the matter is that he doesn’t have the appeal of the big names and his chances of winning are very unlikely. King Roy has money to burn, and I’m sure he’d love to face McBerry.

Jason Shepherd July 8, 2009 at 8:21 am

I think we can just use “McLusional.” It’s easier to say.

jenny July 8, 2009 at 8:34 am

I like Mc DINGLE Berry, myself.

Just Jenny, aka, Mc Dingle Berry…..

Pass it on…

Jason Shepherd July 8, 2009 at 9:12 am

Jenny, you DO know what that word means, right?

jenny July 8, 2009 at 9:27 am

I sho’ nuff do, Jason.

Dingle berries, really annoying clumps of dookie that you cannot get rid of no matter what.

That sounds about right.

jenny July 8, 2009 at 9:29 am: Oh, and there’s never just one. There are 8 McDingleBerries in the Hodges clan…..

AlanR July 8, 2009 at 7:47 am

looks like Jenny will be T J Ward’s next assignment.

Bill Simon July 8, 2009 at 8:02 am

Actually…a little back story needs to be told here: The person who accosted the Hodges was an Oxendine volunteer who was brand new to the scene of political campaigning. He let his passionate support for his candidate get the best of him.

Passionate supporters and volunteers are on all sides in political races, and neither the candidate nor the paid staff can always be in control of what a supporter says or does on what they think is on “behalf” of their candidate.

I wouldn’t hold this type of incident against Oxendine as a measurement of his gubernatorial abilities…some candidates inspire volunteers to take actions on their own, whether rational or irrational.

Jeff July 8, 2009 at 9:32 am

so says the ONLY PP regular that is, in fact, on Ox’s payroll.

Bill Simon July 8, 2009 at 9:57 am

Jeff,

I know it’s tough not having a real job or a real career (save trying to be as noisome as you can achieve on a blog a total of 12 people give a hoot about enough to visit on a monthly basis), but I’m not “on the Ox’s payroll.” Being on “a payroll” means one gets consistent paychecks.

My company provides services and products to campaigns. Do you have an objection to me earning sales of my business offerings, Mr. Libertarian?

The Oxendine campaign is a customer of mine (and, one of several in this cycle were you to bother enough to research). As such, I have a different relationship with them than I would, say, a dork like yourself.

Jeff July 8, 2009 at 10:11 am

I’m still going though the disclosures because I DO, in fact, have a day job. I don’t get paid to sit around and pontificate and make others look good on websites, not even my own.

But yes, one of the analyses I plan to do is any bloggers I know who show up on campaign disclosures. What people do with those analyses, completely up to them.

Bill Simon July 8, 2009 at 1:10 pm: I don’t get paid to sit around either and do anything on a blog. Since I am a self-employed person and NOT working on any time clock (unlike, say, YOU, who blogs on someone else’s time while they pay you), I don’t have to answer to you.

However, you’ve become quite the purveyor of false and misleading statements, Jeff. Know what that means to your credibility? It means you have none worth a crap.

AMF!
Jeff July 8, 2009 at 2:10 pm: Seriously? The author of the Vine – which gets updated MAYBE 3 times every 2 months – is calling ME out about what I write? You have GOT to be kidding me!

Did you or did you not get paid slightly over $2400 by John Oxendine between February and March of this year?

Do you or do you not now write fairly flattering things about him?

I was only active on this forum since about December of last year, so I honestly don’t know your tone regarding Ox prior to you getting paid by him. Maybe it was just as flattering, and if so, I do thank you for remaining consistent. Like I said, I honestly don’t know.
Bill Simon July 8, 2009 at 2:42 pm: Jeff,

I did not get “paid” anything. My company sold items of value…things that COST me something to sell someone else.

Do you know how a transaction even works in the world? Do you think that when money is paid for physical items that all that money goes into MY pocket?

It doesn’t, Jeff. It gets paid to a supplier, it gets paid to a shipper, sales tax gets paid to the government, and…in the end, my company receives a percentage of what is called “Gross Profit Margin” of which monthly expenses have to be paid in order to support the business. Utilities, accounting services, marketing, fuel costs, etc.

FINALLY…MAYBE…if I’m lucky…I may get to keep approximately 20% of the cost. Yeah.

But, it beats sitting on my ass taking a government paycheck….and blogging on my employer’s time (which is what you apparently still do…and, that’s called stealing, Jeff…)

With regards to acting as a foil to the nonsense YOU and ERICK and DOUG write about when it comes to blaming people for this, that, and the other, yeah…I DO that. Know why? Because it takes absolutely no brain power to write the whiny little shi*t that you write. It doesn’t. I’d rather prevent my brain from turning to mush.

You, however, can mush on to your heart’s content.

Jane July 8, 2009 at 8:19 am

Well said, Bill

B Balz July 8, 2009 at 8:30 am

I don’t care for the cut of Mr. Oxendine’s jib. The only voter you can trust is the one that says they are not voting for you.

jenny July 8, 2009 at 8:36 am

Well, Bill, there has actually been quite a bit of bullying amongst the Oxendine peeps and unfortunately it wasn’t with new volunteers.

The really funny part about this is Brian Laurens told Jon, “I’d hate to see this on Peach Pundit….” in a threatening sort of way, and Jon said, “If you don’t put it on there, I will.”

And of course none of us put it on here. Someone texted me this morning stating I was on the front of Peach Pundit and I said *gulp*, “Well, I hope it isn’t too negative.” LOL.

Bill Simon July 8, 2009 at 9:13 am

McDingleBerry….has an interesting ring to it, Jenny. I presume these kinds of berrys are non-GMO?

jenny July 8, 2009 at 9:28 am

Non-GMO, dirt cheap, and you cannot get rid of them. LOL.

And I know I’m your favorite McDingleBerry.

Bill Simon July 8, 2009 at 9:59 am: In the small world of McDingleberrys, no truer words can be spoken.

anewday July 8, 2009 at 10:11 am

I think it is pretty much the consensus in the campaigning world that the Oxendine camp has the most obnoxious volunteers. They, as a whole, do not reflect their candidate well. Or maybe they do reflect their candidate well. All I know is that I would let all my volunteers know that when they put on an Oxendine shirt they represent the candidate. I would hope that they would try hard not to make us look stupid.

John Konop July 8, 2009 at 10:58 am

We have all seen this pattern from the OX TEAM. Does anyone know is this attitude driven from the candidate and or the staff? What is a very strange is I have met OX a few times and he does not come off like this in person.

B Balz July 8, 2009 at 11:04 am

@Mssrs . Simon and Deal:

We in the Dork Community are saddened that you have chosen to negatively characterize us. We ask that you moderate your tone, Sirs. We don’t all use Segways.

Doug Deal July 8, 2009 at 11:37 am

My apologies.

Buzz Brockway July 8, 2009 at 3:00 pm

I love using Segways. One of these days I’m going to own one and use it to do all sorts of dorky things.

Doug Deal July 8, 2009 at 4:34 pm

Too bad you are already married, or you could have the world’s first Renaissance Era Klingons on Segways wedding conducted entirely in Esperanto. The Renaissance, Klingon and Esperanto parts are to take the edge off the dorkiness.

Buzz Brockway July 8, 2009 at 4:44 pm: Another missed opportunity.

jenny July 9, 2009 at 7:19 pm

You do kinda look like someone who’d ride a Segway….

Buzz Brockway July 9, 2009 at 10:46 pm

I’ll take that as a compliment.

Dash Riptide July 10, 2009 at 7:33 am: Compliment? Hell, I thought she was coming on to you.
jenny July 10, 2009 at 9:25 am: When I think of Segway riding, I think of Arrested Development and the Job character.

Ronald Daniels July 8, 2009 at 1:22 pm

Someone should make all of McBerry’s bumper stickers be McBerry stamped over Oxendine stickers. It’d be great.

Daniel N. Adams July 8, 2009 at 1:58 pm

I bet BS and JRH are already on it.

jenny July 10, 2009 at 9:26 am: Nah. We’re tight wads. It would cost too much. Besides, if Ox is mailing his stickers to all our peeps, they can now make use of ‘em.

griftdrift July 8, 2009 at 1:47 pm

That would be awesome.

BuckheadConservative July 8, 2009 at 3:13 pm

The JO campaign seems to ocillate between “cliche” and “misstep” Watching him is kinda like going back in time and watching people board the Titanic.

sethweathers July 8, 2009 at 9:49 pm

i don’t think i have ever watched a video of anyone more annoying.

amazing

Jason Shepherd July 9, 2009 at 9:32 pm

Here you go, Seth. This is by far more annoying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5im0Ssyyus

Icarus July 9, 2009 at 9:45 pm

I’m holding that one against The Ox, Shep.

As for annoying, there’s this classic. I’m sure it’s new to many here who probably are under the dilusion that Paul Broun was sworn in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG5AwGitZbs

Doug Deal July 9, 2009 at 9:56 pm

That’s funny, I was singing that to my wife the other day. She likes to sing the “mushroom…mushroom” part.

Jason Shepherd July 9, 2009 at 10:01 pm

HA! You think that’s anywhere as annoying as this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KHL7jv4-MI

Icarus July 9, 2009 at 10:12 pm: The most disturbing part of that video is the thought that most of the pics were probably taken at a Starship store on Cheshire Bridge.

Dash Riptide July 9, 2009 at 9:47 pm

It’s Amsterdam all over again.

Henry Waxman July 8, 2009 at 10:08 pm

Damn, Jenny, put the Macbook down and raise some ca$h. $3,400 cash on hand?!? There are people running for county dog catcher that have more cash than that. In fact, your Macbook probably cost you $3,400…

C.R.E.A.M.

jenny July 9, 2009 at 7:22 pm

Hahahahaha.

Yes, you have a point there. Well, we had to have a plausible sales pitch for winning before we started asking for money. Now that the state wide network is built, we are diving into fundraising with a vengeance. You’ll see much better numbers next go round.

I have to admit to being rather proud of only 3 months campaigning, $15,000 spent, 800 volunteers across the state, 250 county coordinators, and a big states rights tour in the works for Aug.- Oct. Since I have the only candidate who is not currently in office, and has no name recognition, it’s rather amazing really.

Romegaguy July 9, 2009 at 7:29 pm

800 volunteers… That’s about how many votes you’ll get in next year’s primary.

jenny July 9, 2009 at 7:36 pm: Oooh, ouch. That was an amazing cut down. Truly spectacular. I’m just gonna call you zing master.

NOT.

John Konop July 9, 2009 at 10:24 am

BTW has Sen. Bobby Franklin endorsed Ray McBerry?

jenny July 9, 2009 at 7:23 pm

Bobby makes a point of never endorsing. I think David Shafer failed to note that when Bobby told him he’d only endorse if David could get my blessing for doing so. Bobby knew David would never get my “endorsement” and he had no intention of giving his.

Bill Simon July 9, 2009 at 11:52 pm

Bobby knew David would never get my “endorsement”

Now THAT’S a zinger.

jenny July 10, 2009 at 9:31 am

I like David a lot. I just have a general rule of never endorsing Fascists.

Jeff July 10, 2009 at 9:35 am: Every time I’ve talked to David, he’s been an incredibly nice guy.

Does being a nice guy mean he should be an elected official trusted with running the government?

Not necessarily. After all, for all the vitriol their enemies use, I’m sure both GWB and BHO are really nice guys.
jenny July 10, 2009 at 9:45 am: Jeff-

Look at the legislation that David sponsored last go round including the Prescription Monitoring Program Act amongst others. When I challenged David on the legislation, he protested that his goal is to dilute how bad legislation. Eventually he said that he regretted sponsoring the legislation.

Fascism is the appearance of private property and free market when in actuality the government owns and regulates everything. The legislation that David sponsors and votes for would fall in line with this thinking.

David is not special. He’s in good company under the gold dome as nearly all other legislators truly believe that the government should regulate everything. They view (as Calvin Hill told me) the Constitution as a good idea, but unrealistic and impractical in terms of restraining government by it.

David is my favorite politician. He is exceedingly likable, comes across as humble, will relentlessly work at something, exchanges favors and pushes his advantage at perfect moments, doesn’t over play or over step his hand, and knows when his goose is cooked and he should retreat.

I’m certainly not his enemy.
jenny July 10, 2009 at 9:47 am: Jeff-

LOL. I read your comment too fast while putting a kid on the potty, breaking up a fight, and answering emails.

Yes, precisely. Being a nice guy who believes in God doesn’t make you fit to serve in public office.

We are in agreement.

jenny July 9, 2009 at 7:23 pm

Oh, and Bobby is in the House, not Senate.

John Konop July 10, 2009 at 6:16 am

Is Bobby helping Ray?

jenny July 10, 2009 at 9:30 am

Let’s see, what exactly do you mean by “helping?”

Bobby avoids the public, breaks out into a sweat followed by hives when he speaks in public, never endorses candidates, and rarely speaks at political events. I think Bobby passed Ray the salt at dinner once. So that could be considered helpful. And Bobby babysits my children on occasion when I’m at political events. So that, too, is helpful.

Does that answer your question?

John Konop July 10, 2009 at 10:11 am

Does Bobby support Ray? BTW I have met Bobby a few times and he did a good job speaking in public. Also he has always been a gentleman with class around me.

jenny July 10, 2009 at 4:30 pm: Well, I guess I could say Bobby looks forward to seeing Ray become our next Governor, and our first Republican Governor.

Bobby is totally awesome, principled, and unswervingly resolute in his devotion to Constitutionally restrained government. He is by far my favorite legislator, and I really trust Bobby. He is as true a friend, and devoted big brother as there can possibly be.

He has terrible curb appeal and that’s too bad, cuz he’s probably one of the most misunderstood people under the gold dome. His sense of humor is choice, and he makes the world’s greatest spaghetti.

And that wraps up my Bobby love fest.

IndyInjun July 9, 2009 at 8:16 pm

Buzz,

Be a Redstate MAN and get a 4 wheeler…..better yet, be cheap like me and use a pull cart to get the deer out of the woods….

Real tools for real guys.

Kellie July 9, 2009 at 8:33 pm: 4 wheelers? Segways?
Men ride Harleys.
Buzz Brockway July 9, 2009 at 10:49 pm: LOL.

The trunk in my Focus is rather large. I could fit a decent size deer in there.

IndyInjun July 9, 2009 at 8:38 pm

Boys ride Oxes.

Ox does need a yoke.

True Grit July 10, 2009 at 12:18 pm

Erick has hit a new low….From Erick’s twitter:

ewerickson Been a rumor that Oxendine got pictures of Cagle w/ some1 causing Cagle to drop out of GA-Gov race. This how? http://bit.ly/2lFWpK

The boy who cries wolf named Erick is revealing himself to be nothing more than a Bill Clinton-esque hatchetman for the Handel campaign.

Erick, you’re also revealing yourself to be a non-legitamate journalist.

Your candidate is a sinking ship. She barely has enough money on hand to compete with the lower tier candidates and her outrageous attacks are putting her down in the Ray McBerry territory or numbers and relavance.

Your attacks and smears prove this.

Yes, Erick…..I am an Oxendine supporter. At some point and time you are going to have to produce the evidence on the innuendo and garbage you are spreading or your going to owe Oxendine and his supporters a 2nd apology in as many weeks. At some point and time supporters are going to get fed up with this brand of smear politics and get a lawyer and sue you for libel and slander, which, since you are such a vocal supporter of Handel, will include not only Handel, but her husband and staff so that her campaign files and records can be opened.

Maybe you should start trying to run a positive campaign and stop using your hatefilled messages to smear a good man’s name.

You better be able to prove this last smear, or I bet there will be hell to pay.

I want to issue Karen Handel a public challenge: I don’t know if you can fire a volunteer like Erick, but you should certainly have your lawyers look into what you can do to get rid of this albatross from around your neck. How many times will it take before you disavow yourself from him?

anewday July 10, 2009 at 7:48 pm: Karen can’t leave Eric yet she is speaking at his Red State convention. It would be a travisty if she did not get that free PR.

John Konop July 10, 2009 at 12:25 pm

True Grit

I have taking shots at Erick over the years but this rumor has been going around for while. Are you saying you have never heard the rumor about Cagle?

True Grit July 10, 2009 at 12:52 pm

Hearing a rumor is one thing. A known and active supporter who spreads it over the internet literally all over the country is quite another.

Doug Deal July 10, 2009 at 1:11 pm

I can hardly even bend over to tie my own shoes without thinking about the Cagle rumor.

jenny July 10, 2009 at 4:33 pm

LOL.

I don’t care who ya’ are. That was funny.

Doug Deal July 10, 2009 at 5:08 pm

See, I CAN do better.

jenny July 10, 2009 at 11:16 pm: Yes, that was much better, Doug. Two gold stars for you.

Henry Waxman July 12, 2009 at 12:59 am

I almost fell out of my chair when Nathan Deal said the following at his official campaign announcement: “If you want a governor who does his own thinking, writes his own speeches, and ties his own shoes, if you want all these things in your next governor, then I’ve got a Deal for you.”

That was hilarious.

ready2rumble July 10, 2009 at 6:48 pm

TG,
Still waiting for one of you Ox Nazi’s (thanks Jenny) to prove Handel didn’t graduate from high school, and that she’s “not a conservative”

John Konop July 10, 2009 at 1:04 pm

True Grit

I have heard the rumor so many times for so long I do not think you can pin it on Erick. When Erick posted on it a while ago after I heard from many sources as well as other peolple on this blog I thought is was not cool. But Erick and others do have a legitimate argument that the facts getting out sooner than latter if true is in the best interest of the party.

True Grit July 10, 2009 at 1:09 pm: He needs to produce evidence if he spreads the rumor.
True Grit July 10, 2009 at 3:07 pm: John,
I never thought Erick introduced the rumor. However, he is spreading it without ANY evidence or shred of proof, therefore it is not a legitmate arguement as there are NO facts.
Bill Simon July 10, 2009 at 4:24 pm: John, what “facts?” It’s only a “fact” if you have evidence.

True Grit July 10, 2009 at 9:09 pm

Ready2Rumble–

“Still waiting for one of you Ox Nazi’s (thanks Jenny) to prove Handel didn’t graduate from high school, and that she’s “not a conservative”

Let me answer your questions for you:

Your idea that Oxendine or anyone from the Oxendine campaign are the ones who brought out the Handel GED/High School diploma issue is false. Karen’s own operative, one Mr. Erick Erickson brought this “scandal” into the annuls of Peach Pundit history and straight onto WSB-TV with his false charges, which have no substance or evidence, as he pointed his finger at the Oxendine campaign.

Sorry to disappoint you here but John Oxendine, nor anyone in his campaign, can prove that Handel didn’t graduate from High School with a GED. Only KAREN HANDEL can do that. I would be willing to bet that Ox, Nathan, Eric, Austin and even Ray would be more than willing to pony up their respective academic records.

I’ll go you one further since you’re READY2RUMBLE: I’ll be you $100 that if asked by Lori Geary, who already reported on the “Great Missing High School Diploma Debate of 09′ “, Oxendine would come up with his High School, College and Law School transcripts MONDAY! Will Karen Handel do the same and put an end to this?

As for Karen’s “Conservative” credentials, let’s look at some facts:

Karen pro-actively sought and got the support of the liberal activist homosexual community when she ran for Fulton County Commissioner. (I posted on this a long time ago….but I’ll give you the link again: http://www.sovo.com/blog/blog.cfm?blog_id=7095 ) Further, she was endorsed by the Southern Voice and attended a Gay Pride parade. Now I could be wrong, but I would certainly think that the average Republican primary voter does not approve of domestic partnerships as a lifestyle.

Karen then went on to express her “disappointment” with Governor Perdue and his veto of the capital gains tax cut back in May. While the other candidates in the race took strong stands against it, Mrs. Handel was merely “disappointed” in Sonny. The true Conservatives in the race for governor urged an override of the veto. True Conservatives understand that Handel isn’t capable of leading a Conservative movement with actions like these.

If Karen Handel is a Conservative, why was it that in May when the State Senate approved a non-binding measure 43-1 that approved of disbanding the federal government should gun control laws be passed and our fundamental Constitutional rights be stripped, did she not step up to the plate and take a stand? Her spokesman said that he “supposed” she would vote for it. Oxendine not only said he would have voted for it, but if he were in the State Senate he would have co-authored the bill.

She sued over her Voter’s Rights Law….And lost. She lost because her program violates section 5 of the Federal Voting Rights Act. And, according to Randy Evans, is using her office to ” achieve personal political objectives” just as many of her Democratic predecessors have done, ie. Max Cleland and Cathy Cox.

It seems to me that Karen Handel has NEVER met a Conservative issue head on yet!

ready2rumble July 11, 2009 at 7:41 am

Another positive message from the Ox Nazi’s.

I don’t see any proof of your accusation that Handel supports domestic partnerships. Also, don’t see any proof that she marched in Gay Pride parade.

As far as the VRA, Handel didn’t sue. The State AG went to the DOJ to get a ruling on the validation process that they use to meet the requirements of federal law. The Obama DOJ, said they didn’t comply with the law, even though it had already been approved under the previous administration.

Erick did not say that Handel had a GED, he quoted another article, that used Karen’s Wiki as a source. After he found out that article was wrong, he corrected his statement. The statement you posted from the Ox camp, after the WSGTV interview, stated that people should ask Handel and her husband what they knew about it.

When asked the tough questions on things like campaign contributions, altering wiki accounts, etc. What’s Team Ox do – attack.

True Grit July 11, 2009 at 1:24 pm

I think if you would have read the link from Southern Voice, which is an editorial written by the editor, you would see that Handel has been endorsed by the Log Cabin Republicans and the Southern Voice in her other races. I sincerely doubt that she would have received these endorsements if she was not open to same sex domestic partnerships.

Read this little bit from Gay blogger Matt Hennie: “Handel, on the other hand, came out as a gay-friendly Republican before her first elective office (Fulton County Commission chair), then bitterly rejected any overtures by those gay supporters once in office.”

The Albany Herald reported on May 17 that “Karen Handel gave a speech to one group in which she seemed to support spousal rights for gay couples, but now she says she’s against it.” Kind of like John Kerry’s statement, “I was for it before I voted against it.”

On August 6, 2006 the Athens Banner-Herald reported that Handel’s opponent in her SOS run Bill Stephens “ed in on a questionnaire for the gay-rights group Georgia Equality. The document, filled out in Handel’s name, says the then-candidate for the chair of the Fulton County Commission supported benefits for gay couples employed by the county. Handel has disavowed the questionnaire.” More Kerry-esque….

Oh yeah….and in Erick’s own words from a blog here on good old Peach Pundit, “We’ve got a copy of Karen Handel’s Georgia Equality Questionnaire from when she ran for her current seat in Fulton County. This could potentially give some socialcons some major qualms about voting for Karen.” Hmmmmm? I wonder what Erick could have meant?

Bottom line on the VRA, she bungled it.

As for the GED/High School Diploma thing. If it doesn’t matter, why doesn’t she just produce her diploma and get on with it?

ready2rumble July 11, 2009 at 3:10 pm

Impressive, your “facts” come from an editorial in a gay newspaper, a gay blogger, and a questionable document from an opponent, who lost.

Once again I ask for some facts showing that Handel supports gay marriage. Just so that you are clear, you may want to watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKqiLeik_dw&feature=channel_page

Just curious, are you implying that Ox will not represent all citizens of Georgia?

As far as VRA, once again you better understand the facts before you make accusations. There were 20,000+ people who supported Handel’s actions on the DOJ approval.

But I digress, back to the video on this post. I don’t see any stories, posts, videos, about other campaigns using the type of antics that Team Ox does. I wonder why they are always about Team Ox?

If Ox is going to run a clean campaign, why does he have to hire a PI?

To the good folks on the Ox campaign, I apologize for using the term Ox Nazi’s, I only did it as it was title of the video. I will not use that term again.

True Grit July 12, 2009 at 1:23 pm

Mr. Rumble,
Where better to see where Mrs. Handel stood than from the very Gay activists that she courted while running for Fulton County Commission?

Yes…I saw the eight second blurb of Mrs. Handel saying she is now against gay marriage. Please just substitute Mrs. Handel fro John Kerry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbdzMLk9wHQ

I also notice you don’t refer to Erick’s comments made in 06′ while she was running for SOS. It sure didn’t sound like a glowing endorsement for her……..

Yes….John Oxendine will represent ALL of Georgians best interests whether he agrees with the lifestyles of some or not.

The fact that a PI was hired by a campaign is hardly a rare occurance and could have been used for a multiude of other things rather than finding dirt on opponents.

As for the “clean” campaign reference, if the Handel camp is so squeaky clean, why are they the only campaign so far to go negative with that “Ox” video brought out at the GOP Convention in Savannah?

True Grit July 12, 2009 at 1:25 pm: I will say though, Rumble, you did show a touch of class retracting the “Nazi” comments. I hope the McBerry campaign will see fit to follow your lead and offer a public apology to Commissioner Oxendine.

jenny July 11, 2009 at 11:04 pm

I went to the Gay Pride parade this past go round. I’m not sure how anyone can take pride in the event. And quite frankly, if you are going to have a gigantic float with a bunch of grotesquely skinny men in green briefs hanging out around poles, someone other than Elaine from Seinfeld needs to teach these people how to dance. It was a total disgrace to humans in general, and certainly sodomites in particular, the kind of carrying on and total lack of dignity or pride the event had. It would have been highly entertaining to have run into Karen Handel there. I wonder what that conversation would have gone like…….

Bill Simon July 12, 2009 at 10:36 am

It was a total disgrace to humans in general, and certainly sodomites in particular, the kind of carrying on and total lack of dignity or pride the event had.

Careful, Jenny. You might be put on the Watch-Out List of the A.D.A.S. (Anti-Defamation Association of Sodomites).

B Balz July 13, 2009 at 8:35 am: Sodomite Pride.

Just doesn’t have the same ring to it. You are a ha-ha funny lady Ms. Jenny.
jenny July 15, 2009 at 11:05 am: Well, in this instance I was actually trying to offer pointers to improve their image.

John Konop July 11, 2009 at 7:00 am

True Grit

Can anyone really define what is conservative?

Many conservatives like William F Buckley, Pat Buchannan….
consider NEOCONS like BUSH liberal.

Was invading Iraq liberal or conservative?

Was cutting taxes and out of control spending policy in the Bush administration and congress liberal or conservative?

Decriminalizing drugs liberal or conservative?

Mandatory pay insurance liberal or conservative?

Immigration policy liberal or conservative?

Trade policy liberal or conservative?

I could go on and on…….

I am looking for rational pragmatic adults not self proclaimed ideologues!

Doug Deal July 11, 2009 at 7:26 pm

Didn’t you know, Konop, it is the GOP’s job to elected the most “conservative” person in the primary. Whatever that means. Unfortunately, it usually means the person most capable of spewing forth the most inflamatory rhetoric about abortion while promissing the treasury doors to be swung wide open for any and all “compassionate” programs that can be dreamed up.

John Konop July 12, 2009 at 5:31 am: Now I get it! LOL

Lawful Money July 11, 2009 at 8:44 am

And with that last line, we may have gotten about as close as we can expect to John Konop offering an “endorsement” of his own.

Leave out the “pragmatic” part, leave out all the GED talk, who said what/when diversions, and cowardly acceptance of how hack media shills wish to re-define “electable” for us 12 months before the primary – and get on the side of truth without compromise for once, shall we?
INTEGRITY IS ELECTABLE
Ray McBerry for Governor 2010

B Balz July 12, 2009 at 7:58 am

What is John Oxendine’s stance on:

SB169, which endeavors to make embryonic stem cell research illegal?

Illegal aliens in GA?

MARTA?Transportation issues in ATL/GA?

Continuing a ‘leaner GA Gov’t” to either make furloughs unneeded or permanent?

John Konop July 12, 2009 at 3:47 pm

Whatever you want it to be!

True Grit July 12, 2009 at 7:59 pm

Most of the answers are at http://www.johnoxendine.com

For more specifics, email him.

Henry Waxman July 14, 2009 at 11:30 pm: The Honorable John Oxendine will return my emails if I ask him a policy question?!? That’s very exciting.

On the other hand, The Honorable Henry Waxman will not return your emails if you ask him a question.

bartsimpsonisdaman July 13, 2009 at 6:47 pm