Scott Rials will be his campaign consultant and Tim Baker will be his campaign manager.
That’s a good team.
Mike Evans, by the way, is using Joel McElhannon.
Fresh Political Pickins From The Peach State
Scott Rials will be his campaign consultant and Tim Baker will be his campaign manager.
That’s a good team.
Mike Evans, by the way, is using Joel McElhannon.
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Stellar!
Yawn.
Another attack post slamming The Ox. So sad.
I’d be outraged if the slander wasn’t so predictable.
Erick are you sure you aren’t on the Atlanta Journal for Communists’ payroll?
Get a room.
Rugby, there’s an old rule of comedy that you can only use a gag 3 times before it’s old and not funny anymore.
Accuse Erick on slandering other candidates and eventually you can go back to the Ox.
Shep, your outrageous slander of the Ox is outrageous. Of course you would like Rugby to stop defending the Ox, how predictable.
I’m looking to see the FEC Reports…
What’s interesting is that Evans and Stephens have basically made their sole point of differentiation from Graves on the idea that “Tom can’t raise any money.” If Tom manages to raise more than them, it puts their campaigns in serious jeopardy.
so is the inverse of this true? If evans and/or stephens raises more money, does that mean graves’ campaign is a bunch of hype and hot air?
should be interesting.
I don’t know if the inverse is true, because I never really bought into the fact that a campaign is all about money. I’m not naive enough to think you can run without money, but I’ve seen to many candidates win over the years who were massively outspent. Perdue immediately comes to my mind.
It’s certainly not true if Graves is even close. The problem for Stephens and Evans is the main “knock” they’re putting out against Tom is that he can’t raise any money. So if Tom comes close to matching them, or outraises them, it takes away their main issue – and they look like fools on top of it.
If Graves is in the ball-park with Evans and Stephens at the end of this second quarter, wouldn’t it make fundraising for them all that much more difficult over the next year or so?
Joel McElhanon was consulting for Whitehead and Fleming; I see a pattern, or is that handwriting on the wall?
I see a pattern between Prove It’s comments and Joel McElhanon’s clients, if that’s what you’re asking.
No Prove it, it doesn’t mean anything if Graves happens to raise less than Bill or Mike. The Graves campaign hasn’t gone around the 9th District saying Mike or Bill can’t raise money. Only Mike, Joel and Mullis have been going around saying Tom can’t raise the money. It was the Evans campaign that lowered the bar for Tom.
This is a great point, Evans has lowered the bar for Tom and raised the bar for himself. If he doesn’t post double what Tom did, it ends up being a huge letdown for Evans.
Graves has also been in the race for a lot less time than the other two men, there is no doubt that he will out raise both for the second reporting period.
Not exactly what I meant Icky. But I see the correlation.
My point is that Joel has consulted two Congressional campaigns in the last two years, spending $2 Million of GOP fundraising on LOSING candidates.
I predict the Jones campaign will have raised the least amount of money. (Unless the Dooley campaign files, which I doubt they will)
Well, I don’t knwo that Graves has been in the race for a “lot” less time than the other two. I mean, I saw Tom Graves name floating out and about, right after Evans’, and before Stephens’. They’ve all been raising money for about the same time, I believe (Evans longer than the others).
The only thing I’d take away from this if Graves hasn’t raised anywhere close to Evans/Stephens money is that Graves’ support from the State Legis members that have endorsed him may just be on the surface. They’re willing to put a name with his campaign, but are they willing to get out and hit up their cash trees to support him (especially in a bad economy)?
You guys seem to have a love affair with this MacElhannon guy that I just don’t understand. But since Barry is a good friend of mine and so is his consultant Jay Walker (not Joel you morons) I think on behalf of them I should correct the record.
I see a correlation between the wacky idiots who backed Paul Broun and Ron Paul and these morons backing Graves.
Seems every time someone points out their shrill, Graves can do no wrong hypocrisy, it’s the same old piling on.
My point is this. If someone is the front runner on fundraising in this race, they’re the frontrunner in this race.
I know the Graves idiots on here will say that Tom is the frontrunner no matter what. I’m talking about reality.
If Graves is the top money raiser, I’ll be the first one on here to say that he’s the front runner. the same is true for evans or stephens. I’m a rational, objective observer. You graves nuts need to get a life.
I don’t know if fundraising frontrunner and campaign frontrunner equate to the same thing. As long as Tom is in the ballpark it will be a big blow to Stephens and Evans. It’s Evans who has tried to base the entire campaign on his fundraising prowess.
Not saying that Graves won’t raise much money – I’d guess that they’re all 3 in the same boat (bad economy= tough to fundraise).
Graves will raise money, Evans has been telling everyone that Graves can’t raise money.
I thought Stoneridge did the mail and signs etc. for Fleming also. If that was not Joel, then I stand corrected, and I’m sorry.
I”m actually not a fan of Macelhannon. I wish mike was using someone else to be honest. I think Jay Walker would be a great consultant for Mike. But Mike runs his own campaign.
however, even when I dont’ like a candidate or some political consultant I think accuracy should count for something and you graves folks need to get back to reality.
I don’t know about Stonedbridge but I think you should check some disclosures before you start throwing around insults.
Look here, I don’t have a dog in this fight, but I do clearly recall that Bill Stephens was fired by Zell Miller for banging his assistant inside the Capitol. Later he was fined a significant amount of money by the State Ethics Commission for ripping off his campaign account for living expenses. So I guess this qualifies him to be a member of the US Congress?
I debated whether or not to respond to this inane post, Fishtail, as you are so clearly an idiot, but I couldn’t help myself.
I’m simply *embarrassed* for you that you feel the need to assert that Mr. Stephens was “fired” by Zell and that he was fined for “ripping off” his campaign account – both of which are completely, provably untrue. Please, I beg of you, try to present evidence to substantiate these claims. You can’t – because they are ridiculous.
These accusations are tired. And you are a simpleton.
And I suppose the reports maybe haven’t filtered down to you feverishly blogging away in your parents’ basement that Zell has supported Mr. Stephens in like every campaign in which he has ever run – including this one. Are you embarassed by your post yet?
really, really lame attempt at positioning macho.
graves is the guy with all the legislators endorsing him. he’s the incumbent legislator able to blackmail all the lobbyists.
lame.
It’s not Graves is style to “blackmail” lobbyists. Evans is former legislator, former statewide DOT Chariman and has Mullis strong arming the lobbyists for him, I wouldn’t blame Evans for going around telling everybody that Tom won’t raise any money. Mike’s confident that anything Tom raises will be chump change compared to his bank account.
It’s not realy positioning. Nobody has disputed the fact that Mike is going around bragging about his great fundraising ability.
let’s talk predictions. real predictions, macho.
Here’s mine:
I predict of the three major candidates they finish as follows:
Graves comes in first with over $200,000. He has 107 colleagues who can give at least $1,000 plus all the lobbyists I know he’s hitting up.
Bill Stephens comes in second with $100,000ish. He’s got a lot of friends still left from being in the Senate and lots of banker friends. $100,000 is pretty easy for him given his past fundraising support. He had the Reynolds on board in his secretary of state bid.
Evans, who I like and wish I could vote for, I think will come in just behind Stephens. Mike’s backing was from Transportation folks, but he’s hurting with them after leaving DOT and they hate Gena. I think he’ll do well but he’ll struggle to get to $100,000.
That’s my opinion. Now let’s hear from Macho and all the other Graves staffers. I know you know, so let’s hear it.
What about Justin Tomczak as political advisor? He doesn’t get PP props?
But could he do better than this guy’s political adviser?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31760415/ns/entertainment-music/?GT1=43001
Mike Evans one two occasions has attacked both Bill and Tom for being big spending liberals, and specifically compared them to John Kerry. If Joel M. is running this race, he’s either out of his mind, or his candidate is out of control. It’s one or the other.
Let’s face facts.
Joel has ran losing campaigns, and Tim Baker too.
As a voter of the 9 CD, I am not happy with the candidates. Bill Stephens and Mike Evans are slimeballs. Tom Graves is a special interest whore. The Ninth District has had great representation with Nathan Deal, Ed Jenkins, and Phillip Landrum. The candidates we have no are not like these great men. They do not stand up for anything, and if one person mentions Graves voting for Evans in DOT, remember this: all Graves did after losing his hawk position was he went to the Well and cried. 9 CD needs a candidate who will stand up for the true values of the district, and not their own personal gain or the needs of a special interest.
Too bad there is not another choice….
http://www.JonesForUs.com
FYI, I know Joel M. helped on on the Mullis campaign. Mullis was relected by a wide margin.
also FYI
You can’t pay me to make a prediction in this race. OK, maybe if was and absurd amount of money…
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