Since it was altered out of Sloppy Floyd, instead of Wikigate, I’ll go with Sloppy Wiki. Here is the WSB story with this quote from Tim Echols.
“We believe that the real story here is that a supporter of Karen Handel has initiated a negative attack without offering any evidence.”
Actually, the real story is that the Oxendine campaign has not to WSB or to me denied the Oxendine campaign changed the biographies on wikipedia.
The Oxendine campaign issued a statement and did not deny their involvement. You would think they would do that.
Morton Blackwell, the head of the Leadership Institute in Washington, D.C., taught me a little trick. Roll out the story, wait for them to say you have no evidence, then present the evidence.
I rolled out the story. Tim Echols responses that I have not offered “any evidence,” and now we have the IP address coming from Sloppy Floyd with a host of positive changes to Oxendine’s biography from the same user. The Ox campaign did not know I knew the IP address before releasing their statement, which again attacked me but did not deny that they are involved.
Now, here are the competing theories, mine and those supporters of Ox in the comments who have come unhinged by this story — some of whom probably have a financial incentive to see Ox win.
MINE: An Oxendine staffer or volunteer, from the Sloppy Floyd Building, altered Karen Handel and John Oxendine’s wikipedia biographies.
OX SUPPORTER THEORY 1: You’re lying.
OX SUPPORTER THEORY 2: Someone showed up at Sloppy Floyd with a laptop, took advantage of an internet connection, and went to town on both hoping to inflict damage to Handel by negatively altering her biography and positively altering John Oxendine’s biography.
OX SUPPORTER THEORY 3: Karen Handel did it. This, of course, appears to be the official position of the Oxendine campaign.
OX SUPPORTER THEORY 4: Someone routed their computer through the internets to make it appear that their IP address came from the Sloppy Floyd building, then went to work altering John Oxendine’s biography to clean it up and make it look really good and alter Karen Handel’s biography. That person could have just been having fun, been a Deal/Johnson/Scott/McBerry supporter, or been a Democrat.
OX SUPPORTER THEORY 5: It’s the lying liberal media of which Erick Erickson is a part and it is somehow related to Paul Broun still not having been sworn in. This, of course, is the fall back theory for the Oxendine campaign.
Meanwhile, the Oxendine campaign has yet to actually deny they are behind it.
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I cannot believe that all of this has come from someone posting something on Wikipedia. It is an open forum where anyone can post anything about any subject. For goodness sakes, anyone who uses Wikipedia as their main information source of voting needs to be taken to the street and beaten. For here on out use Wikipedia at your own risk. College professors will give you a ZERO if you cite information from that cite. If college students know better then to cite it then professionals of your caliber ought to also know. I use to think highly of Erick, but after this I am not sure what to think.
The real point here is the extent of petty Nixonian dirty tricks that Oxendine supporters in some capacity of this “so called” leader in the race 10 months out will go to.
Me thinks they are not as confident about the value of these early polls as they want you to to believe.
Campaign on your record and what you plan to do and let your opponent rise or fall on theirs.
Keep in mind Kathy Cox fired her campaign manager, Morton Brilliant, for altering Mark Taylor’s Wikipedia bio with a factual entry. This was as high in the campaign as you can get, but it was still a campaign worker on the campaign’s payroll; nothing like a state government worker using state resources to post campaign lies.
Other Cathy Cox.
What is equally significant for those trying to undermine her clear record of leadership is Handel’s statement to WSB that she has a high school diploma not a GED:
Secretary of State Karen Handel, a republican running for governor, wants to set the record straight about her education.
“For the record, yes, I have a high school diploma,” said Handel.
Handel told Channel 2 Action News political reporter Lori Geary that someone changed that information on her Wikipedia page, claiming that she had a GED.
Erick,
Good way to not take any responsibility for YOUR actions.
The Oxendine camp owes you absolutely nothing. YOU do owe Brian Laurens a considerable amount of mea culpa.
But…I do understand the challenge you would have in discerning right and wrong when you have your head stuck so far up your own rear-end.
And, WOW! Must be a REALLY slow freaking day in the news world for Lori Geary to be tasked to covering this crap.
“Meanwhile, the Oxendine campaign has yet to actually deny they are behind it.”
Meanwhile, have you apologized for smearing an innocent person?
Have you no decency?
(Gold stars to the first conservative that identifies who said that.)
Gold stars make me look like a nerd. I’ll pass.
Looks has nothing to do with it.
Karen is combining Karl Rove’s they bugged our office with Mark Taylor’s they edited my wiki page.
Can we spell D – E – S – P – E – R – A -T – E? If Erick is a representative of the campaign, then this is what her campaign is right now. I have never seen a deliberate attempt to use this blog as a smear campaign against another candidate.
Joseph N. Welch
Seriously though, as a democratic observer who couldn’t care less about either candidate, Erick looks more and more like a hack job every day.
And Handel only said [on WSB] she had a high school degree [not that she had a high school diploma ....... from a specific high school, in Upper Marboro.
The point is a GED is the legal and quasi functional equivalent of a high school diploma in Maryland and many States. Good enough to get in most colleges, good enough to work for the Feds, in an appointed or clerical position.
Why is she still not being 100% truthful and CLEAR [by showing the Diploma if it exists] it sounds fishier and fishier by trying to confuse the public.
The more she skirts around the issue the more confused I am.
Heck I might go to Maryland and sniff around for those year books, graduation pictures.
Anybody want to contribute for investigation costs?
Are not the list of graduates PUBLIC RECORDS everywhere?
I fault WSB for not actual researching the story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is just stupid. She said “degree” not “diploma”.
Do you know where your high school diploma is? I sure don’t. Nor do I care.
When you speak of your education do you say “I have a degree” or “I have a diploma” ? Most would use degree.
I’m not sure what the definition of “is” is.
How does that change “SpaceyG is a woman?”
Kelly, I usually say I have a “College Degree.” Who gives a $hit about high school?
No one cares but Techno was making a big deal about how Karen answered a question. It’s stupid.
Why is no one asking to see her birth certificate!!!!!
does she have a birth certificate handy?
Of course they aren’t going to deny it without making sure that a denial would be accurate. If they deny it and they come to find that someone in the office did it, then they would look even more foolish.
Erick’s trying to play a game of rope-a-dope and it isn’t working.
Maybe he’s playing with a soap on a rope and it spun around his neck until the bar of soap smacked him in his face.
You said soap on a rope and I thought you were going to say the words Erick and prison.
I have to agree with the above posts. Despiration Erick. My gosh. Since you couldn’t prove your baseless attack on Brian Laurens you’ve begun lying to yourself. This whole thing is without fact and is negative campaigning by the joint conspirators of Erick and Mr. and Mrs. Handel.
Here’s the COMPLETE UNEDITED statement put out today by the Oxendine campaign:
“When there were allegations made by a blogger (who has endorsed Karen Handel) that a staffer of our campaign had altered the Wikipedia entry of Karen, the campaign directed our legal counsel to look into the matter. The attorney spoke at length with the staffer accused by the blogger and the employee signed a sworn affidavit that he did not alter the Wikipedia entry. Based on this investigation, we believe the staffer to be innocent. Attached is the sworn affidavit.
These are serious charges leveled against a 26 year old young man, and we are disappointed that Eric Erickson (the blogger, a known supporter of Ms. Handel), would make charges without substantiating the allegations. This is politics at its worse and one of the reasons that people are so turned off to being involved in political campaigns.
We believe that the real story here is that a supporter of Karen Handel has initiated a negative attack without offering any evidence. Additionally, we think Georgia voters deserve to know what Karen Handel or her husband may have known about this incident and when they knew it.
Tim Echols
Campaign Manager
Erick, you really need to quit coming unhinged and just admit that you were wrong and publicly apologize to not only Brian Laurens, but to the Oxendine campaign as well. You should be well advised to remember that your actions are only huting your candidate. NOT helping her.
There is absolutely no reason for ANY candidates’ campaign to have to refute these type of ridiculous, slanderous, circumstantial charges and only a member of a campaign that is sinking would stoop to this type of dirty trick that would make Richard Nixon blush.
You couldn’t prove that Brian Laurens was the culprit, so then you tried to point the finger at Oxendine staffers or supporters who work in the Sloppy Floyd building. Now you can’t prove that it was them either. Several non-Oxendine posters have showed how anyone could have done this. You seem to be really grasping at straws here.
The only thing that is Sloppy here is this type of reporting and campaigning.
Aren’t you Brian?
WHOA!!!! Echols was fine until THIS statement:
Additionally, we think Georgia voters deserve to know what Karen Handel or her husband may have known about this incident and when they knew it.
What does Steve Handel have to do with this? I call bullsh*t on the Oxendine campaign. Mr. Echols has crossed into Stupid Accusation Territory now.
It is dumb, Dumb, DUMB to bring in parties (i.e., family) not directly connected with the campaigning process.
You have a link for this statement True Grit? I couldn’t find it on the web. Maybe I’ve been kicked off the Oxendine email list.
This whole post and all the current GOP candidates are pathetic. Sonny Perdue is looking better and better when you contemplate any one of these. Is there ANY way we can persuade Cagle to reconsider? He is our only hope.
does Casey have a copy of his high school diploma? Someone may want to see it. lol
Cagle has the same academic credentials as Handel.
But I heard he doesn’t know how to tie his own shoes.
I’ve heard that as well, Doug.
Good thing he has helpful staff members to um, you know, provide assistance in that regard.
Well, we all need our “shoes tied” by “helpful staffers” from time to time.
I think the term is “staff assistant”.
yes I know that but Bobin may not.
So I don’t hear any of you insiders disagreeing that this current crop of candidates is pathetic. Is that right?
I know people in the legislature, GOP and Dem, lobbyists and others who say Cagle is the great gentleman at the Capitol. If I’m wrong, correct me. But the pettiness of the debate going on here is just incredibly depressing if you care about Georgia and its future.
Tell me why I should not be depressed by this back and forth. Georgia is at the back end of everything in the developed world, except for Mississippi and Alabama. Barnes was a visionary, but a premiere a..hole, so he blew his chance. Who among this sad and silly crowd of Republicans gives a s..t about struggling Georgia families? I’d like to hear that discussed here. Again, this whole discussion is f…cking pathetic.
Sometimes we just have to joke about things Bobin.
I knew it wouldn’t take you long to start insulting GA again. Now tell me, why did you move here if we are so backwards?
Petition for Erick to resign from Peach Pundit:
Signed: ugadog
If Erick resigns, who’d pay for PP?
Budget web-hosting: $10/month.
Wordpress software: Open source and free.
The thought of Erick eating crow after all this nonsense: Priceless.
But…who will tend this blog like Clayton does, as though we are sheep grazing in the pasture?
With a thread of dreams going full blast, I bet he would have to get “premium” web hosting at $15/month. Nothing to sneeze at. There is a recession on, you know.
“For the record, yes, I have a high school diploma,” said Handel
Not the same as saying I graduated from xyz HighSchool in 1979.
GED also provides a High School Diploma upon completion
Not the same thing as:
“If you are looking for an alternative option to the GED, consider KokoPelli High School’s online high school program. This course is self-paced which enables many students who have an active lifestyle to still be able to complete the program. Our online high school program is similair to the actual GED test but is a shorter version and not timed. Most students are able to complete the course and receive their high school diploma kit in less than a week. This online program was designed for students who need to get their high school diploma quickly in order to apply for a job or promotion”
Here is a Diploma Company that will prepare and ship you a Diploma of your choice for $75:
http://www.diplomacompany.com/index.php?category_id=203&target=categories
“Diploma Company is an e commerce novelty document provider that is located in Las Vegas, NV, USA. Diploma Company provides authentic looking novelty replacement diplomas and phony transcripts. With Diploma Company you can get your name on a realistic looking diploma along with the name of any school you want, graduation dates, and more! Hang a diploma up on your wall that looks real! Fool your friends, play a joke on your family, or make your colleauges jealous. Products and services sold at Diploma Company also make fine replacements for lost or damaged documents. Diploma Company offers the ultimate in realistic novelty fake diploma documents sold online for entertainment purposes only.”
I’m not familiar with the “Sloppy Floyd” (sounds like a perverted variation of the Dirty Sanchez)… but if that’s Oxendine’s building, then I’m willing to believe that it was probably one of Ox’s supporters who made the Wikipedia edit.
That said… Erick started out with a snap judgment fingering Brian Laurens by name, and bragged about getting him fired from his job. Now he’s backpeddling and claiming only that it was “someone from Sloppy Floyd”, and the smoking gun is that Oxendine’s campaign manager hasn’t issued a categorical denial yet.
While I don’t condone vandalizing the Wikipedia page of a rival candidate, that doesn’t exonerate a Washington writer sourcing his articles from it without a fact-check, nor one of the candidate’s own supporters repeating the misinformation without blinking.
The ironic thing is that if Erick hadn’t SO overreacted out of embarrassment, this episode would have been forgotten about within hours. It’s the overreaction that’s turned this into the most entertaining Peach Pundit story of the year thus far, and helped it spread into the mainstream media. I agree with almost all the posts above. This thread (and the entire episode) is a gigantic embarrassment.
Sloppy Floyd is also called the “Twin Towers.” It is where the Georgia State MARTA station is located.
but if that’s Oxendine’s building, then I’m willing to believe that it was probably one of Ox’s supporters who made the Wikipedia edit.
It is also the building that houses the majority of the operations of the Secretary of State’s office (Corporations, Elections,etc.). Someone who works for Karen now COULD not be for her to get elected.
I once had a sloppy floyd, but the doctor gave me an ointment and it cleared right up.
I prefer Manwiches
http://www.diplomacompany.com/index.php?target=pages&page_id=diploma_samples
The quality and look of these fakes is great. For a moment I thought about adding a few extra Masters degrees to my MBA from schools I had attended so at least there would be some records of course work and attendence.
There is a list of closed colleges by State so impossible to check records.
*
http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/nge/Multimedia.jsp?id=m-1838
Narrowing it down to 2 – 20 story buildings and a cafeteria open to the public that serves 10,000 people per 5 day week [at it's peak], is not very Narrow
http://gba.georgia.gov/00/channel_modifieddate/0,2096,59377335_75467247,00.html
http://gba.georgia.gov/vgn/images/portal/cit_1210/7/29/75550752Hill%20Map.pdf
Someone should go down to Sloppy Floyd and get a Sloppy Joe and log on through the wifi in the cafeteria. If it is open to the public, I bet it has a different domain name, and if not a different range of IP’s.
BobinBuckhead July 2, 2009 at 6:44 pm
So I don’t hear any of you insiders disagreeing that this current crop of candidates is pathetic. Is that right?
I know people in the legislature, GOP and Dem, lobbyists and others who say Cagle is the great gentleman at the Capitol. If I’m wrong, correct me. But the pettiness of the debate going on here is just incredibly depressing if you care about Georgia and its future.
Bobin, Cagle is no gentleman and I don’t know anyone who says he is.
Keep in mind, this whole so called scandal was started by Erick, who is a Karen Handel supporter, making unfounded attacks against an Oxendine staffer. Now that the evidence has not panned out against Brian Laurens, he moves on to “someone in the Sloppy Floyd building.”
Throughout all of this, Erick has not shared the evidence he claims he has, evidence that first pointed to Brian Laurens and now magically does not, so no one can back up the validity of his claims.
I would like to be able to do my own investigation into this as well.
Given the information that Erick keeps putting up here, I wonder if I was wrong saying that there would not be a libel suit here for, at least, Brian Laurens. It might be easier to prove actual malice than I first thought.
Oh, and I do, for the most part, like our current choices. However, a few of those choices I’m now starting to have grave second thoughts about.
I can honestly say I’ve had no second thoughts about the McBerry campaign.
I did say, “for the most part.”
Except for the really hot McBerry campaign director…
I disagree with you bobinbuckhead, I just choose not to debate with you about it.
I want to know how romneygingrich12 found Oxendine’s middle initial.
He had it changed to W in 2000 in honor of the Best Republican President Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid could have hoped for.
I was dissapointed with W’s big government in the end, but W looks as good right now as Jesus did to an alcoholic turning the water into wine.
an alcoholic turning the water into wine.
I have a sudden urge to drink some wine…
Wait….we’re arguing over whether she got a high school degree or a diploma? Or a GED? Doesn’t matter – GED stands for “General Equivalency Diploma” – it’s supposed to be “equivalent.” So that doesn’t bother me. The fact that our Secretary of State didn’t get a higher degree, like, say, a bachelor’s….that bothers me, especially since she is running for governor. No wonder she knows nothing about law…
Now that many have released their pent up envy, anger or whatever irks you about Erick, can a front pager start a new post? Can any of us really continue like this through the primary next year?
Erick! At least you aknowledge that your theory is only a theory, and it is at most one of 6.
Good God! Get a life Erick! You continue to lose credibility and class!
How many lawyers does Oxendine have?
2 or 3 lawyers to defend him in front of the Ethics Commission for taking big $$$ from an Alabama business man
1 lawyer to look into wikipedia defamation that obviously came from his staff
1 lawyer for Brian Laurens
2 lawyers to clean up his frequent wrecks in state-owned cars….
At the rate lawyers charge, we may have solved the budget crisis.
As nearly any lawyer you talk to today will tell you, lawyers “charging” for services is quite a different matter from lawyers “collecting” money from performing said services.
Progressive Dem said “Meanwhile, have you apologized for smearing an innocent person?
Have you no decency?
(Gold stars to the first conservative that identifies who said that.)”
I believe that’s the Paul Newman character in “Absence of Malice,” which also has one of the greatest scenes ever, in which Wilford Brimlel kicks @ss with his “subpeenies”.
Andisheh said “I want to know how romneygingrich12 found Oxendine’s middle initial.”
How about here: http://www.gainsurance.org/
or : http://sos.georgia.gov/elections/election_results/2006_1107/swfed.htm
He was on the ballot in 2006 as “John W. Oxendine” not really a secret.
This is turning into some propaganda forum. Total BS. All this about some wiki article has turned into this? We have people on here BASHING Casey Cagle our sitting LG. (JS)rediculous! People trashing all of our current Gov canidates. We as a party must band together and not knife everyone in a primary. That is what the Democrats have done in GA several times and it cost them the election.
To add to that. Cagle running for current office. Why bash an our current LG when it is most certain a Democrat will jump in Jason?
Yep, by most accounts of one of the main rumors, he was in fact sitting.
And I think he was also at his desk, giving some form of dictation if I remember correctly.
It’s not bashin’ if it’s true.
I thought the point of a Primary was to knife everyone in sight, and whomever had the least blood loss went on to win.
True although it leaves the Democrat with more power. Unless you are Berry Fleming vs Paul Broun.
We as a party must band together and not knife everyone in a primary.
Because that’s worked so well for the Republican Party, huh?
Perhaps you need to rethink the strategy and support competent politicians instead of defending the morons we got in charge now.
We are equal opportunity bashers. They all deserve their fair share.
Exactly so.
I think this plays out well for Handel. The performance of the ivy league geniuses in Washington make me eager for a candidate who’s experience more closely mirrors my own. This is a really good discussion for Handel especially this far out, and makes it easier for people to identify with her.
Is there a possibility that she really does have a GED and she changed her wikipedia entry to make it accurate — anticipating the dumpster diving the democrats will do if she gets the nomination? Would it be the same IP address?
The problem for Oxendine is the potential that he looks guilty because nothing is ever his fault, ever. Reading the campaigns response didn’t convince me. When he cracked up his car while using the emergency lights he lied to the cops right out of the box, and probably still insists he was on his way to an “incident”. And the money from Alabama — anyone really believe no one involved in raising money for his campaign noticed $150,000 coming from the same out of state address?
Alan, the $120,000 (not $150K) came in smaller checks over time and the address was a PO Box. Take it from someone who use to enter all of Newt’s checks into the computer, a street address you might notice…all PO Boxes look the same.
The campaign must be doing exceptionally well not to notice 10 $12,000 checks from 10 Alabama political action committees gave to Oxendine in 2008 when all of the PACs listed Donald V. Watkins Jr. as chairman.
Anyone who looks at the contributions disclosure and does not notice how the so called “smaller check” PAC contributions jump out and far exceed all other contributions is naive or in denial.
I challenge you all to check for themselves what John Weimann Oxendine’s Campaign reported:
http://ethics.ga.gov/Reports/Campaign/Campaign_Name.aspx?NameID=448&FilerID=C2008000305&Type=candidate
We’ll see how significant this really is when the GA Ethics Commissions rules on the propriety.
Cash-N-Checks PAC
2008 opening balance: ZERO
Total 2008 contributions
$2,000 from State Mutual
$14,000 from Admiral Life
2008 Payments to Oxendine campaign: $12,000
2008 Payments to others: ZERO
Courtside Suite 10 PAC
2008 opening balance: $350
Total 2008 contributions
$2,000 State Mutual
$14,000 Admiral Life
2008 Payments to Oxendine campaign: $12,000
2008 Payments to others: $300 to Donald Watkins
First Highland Avenue PAC
2008 opening balance: $353.04
Total 2008 contributions
$2,000 from State Mutual
$14,000 from Admiral Life
2008 Payments to Oxendine campaign: $12,000
2008 Payments to others: $300 to Donald Watkins
Georgia Dome PAC
2008 opening balance: $354.61
Total 2008 contributions
$2,000 from State Mutual
$14,000 from Admiral Life
2008 Payments to Oxendine campaign: $12,000
2008 Payments to others: $300 to Donald Watkins
LIFT PAC
2008 opening balance: $712.71
Total 2008 contributions
$3,000 from BizPac
$4,000 from Peachtree PAC (Another Watkins PAC)
$3,000 from Philips PAC (Another Wakins PAC)
$2,000 from State Mutual
$14,000 from Admiral Life
2008 Payments to Oxendine campaign: $12,000
2008 Payments to others: $20,000 to William Bell Campaign (Birmingham City race), $600 to Donald Watkins
Peachtree PAC
2008 opening balance: $156.12
Total 2008 contributions:
$8,000 from BizPac
$2,000 from State Mutual
$14,000 from Admiral Life
2008 Payments to Oxendine campaign: $12,000
2008 Payments to others: $8,000 to LIFT PAC (Another Watkins PAC)
Philips PAC
2008 opening balance: $119.12
Total 2008 contributions
$6,000 from BizPac
$2,000 from State Mutual
$14,000 from Admiral Life.
2008 Payments to Oxendine campaign: $12,000
2008 Payments to others: $6,000 to LIFT PAC
$3,000 (Another Watkins PAC)
South Perry PAC
2008 opening balance: $5.79
Total 2008 contributions
$2,000 from State Mutual
$14,000 from Admiral Life
2008 Payments to Oxendine campaign: $12,000
2008 Payments to others: ZERO
Turner PAC
2008 opening balance: $301.12
Total 2008 contributions
$2,000 from State Mutual
$14,000 from Admiral Life
2008 Payments to Oxendine campaign: $12,000
2008 Payments to others: ZERO
The Watkins Group
2008 opening balance: $62.38
Total 2008 contributions
$2,000 from State Mutual
$14,000 from Admiral Life
2008 Payments to Oxendine campaign: $12,000
2008 Payments to others: ZERO
Sources: The Georgia Ethics Commission, Alabama Secretary of State’s Office. http://www.ajc.com/news/content/metro/stories//2009/05/10/oxendine_pac_giving.html
CORRECTION not 10 checks, but 10 total contributions of 12K from each. Thy were clearly broken down into smaller check amounts to obscure the magniture of the contribution.
CORRECTION not 10 checks, but 10 total contributions of 12K from each. Thy were clearly broken down into smaller check amounts to obscure the magnitude of the contribution.
Oh come now, I could see how the fact that one man is responsible for 10% of the Ox’s contributions, but it was overlooked due to all those confusing PO box numbers. Obviously, this man from Alabama has a secret “paperback romance novel” passion for Oxendine and wanted to keep it a secret.
When you raise $1.2 million, 2 dozens checks out of about 500+ individual contributions all entered by someone who is doing a thousand other things in addition to entering checks into the computer and received over several months makes it easy to overlook a detail like that. Depending on the software you are using, most only flag names when you exceed your contribution limit, not similar addresses.
I’m not sure what campaign contribution software Oxendine uses, Aristotle, politically-e, or something else, but my experience using those two systems over 3 campaigns that raised over $1 each I know the software does not necessarily flag addresses, only names.
You can also run into a problem if you create a slightly difference account with a simple misspelling. Let’s say you first create an account called” T-Shirt PAC.” For the next check you accidentially create an account “TShirt Political Action Committee.” You wouldn’t get a flag on it.
But go ahead and believe what you want to. I’ve shown you the facts and Republicans are supposed to be the logical ones who can better shift out the evidence for themselves.
Once it was brought to Oxendine’s attention, he returned the money. He didn’t wait to see if it was kosher of not, he just simply returned it. Yeah he attacked the AJC. That was probably not the best response, but he didn’t wait 2 weeks attacking the “liberal media” and finally gave up and returned the money, he did it the next day there was mail service.
But if despite the evidence, you “feel” there is still something fishy, go ahead and base your political decisions on your emotions. Thinking like that will put you one step closer to becoming a proud member of the Democratic Party.
I think it’s a little fishy, that a successful businessman, who is president of a company in an industry directly regulated by the Ox, who doesn’t even live in the state, would make contributions equal to 10% of the Ox’s entire campaign account and want to remain completely anonymous about it. Because that’s what happens in politics, businessmen who make contributions, especially $120,000 contributions, don’t want to have any extra access or influence so they make them anonymously.
But if you want to go on acting like a rube, or at least thinking everyone else is a rube, then go right ahead.
1.) I believe the Guv should have more than a High School Diploma/GED,
2.) Y’all take yourselves a wee bit too seriously – Wrongly accusing someone of the High Crime of Wiki-altering,
3.) Issues, issues, issues, NOT political operatives (polyps) bedside confessions,
4.) Brian may have a legal claim,
5.) GOP 0, Dems 1 on this one,
6.) Happy Birthday Amercia.
I, too, want the smartest politician in the room to help lead this state out of “The Land of the Lost.”
Roy’s very smart, but too old and too much baggage for what we need.
I used to think Handel had the right stuff, but not lately. She’s turned into a “pander bear”.
Ox is more of the same.
Is anyone else running that has a chance?
Pine Knot,
You are correct but remember those bashing are Icarus,Deal ,and Shepard.They are all good at spreading unfounded rumors that have no basis in fact and have done so since CC’s health issues required him to pull out of the Gov race.
But at the end of the day CC will remain one of the most popular political figures in Ga.amd will retain his LG office and they will still be pathetic hacks on a political blog,sad but true………
Georgia Judge, I really don’t care what you say about me, but at least spell my name right.
Am I the only one who finds humor in all of this?
This is the zaniest Gov race since Lester Maddox rode his bicycle backwards, or since Eugene stole those pigs from us for us.
Nah….I fiond it quite humorous aswell.
Am I the only one who finds humor in all of this?
When I saw my fake name on WSB yesterday clear as day I laughed out loud. It’s all very Theatre of the Absurd.
The folks who probably aren’t laughing are the state’s IT folks. They can probably expect a gold rush of Open Records requests in the near future that aren’t even directly related to this story.
Knowing what happened to Cox’s campaign manager over a similar incident, I’d be very worried if I was a government employee in Sloppy Floyd changing wikipedia entries.
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