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	<title>Comments on: Fair Tax Friday:  The Book vs. The Bill</title>
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		<title>By: Doug Deal</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/06/26/fair-tax-friday-the-book-vs-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-176773</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Deal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s knowledge you just can&#039;t buy, except with money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s knowledge you just can&#8217;t buy, except with money.</p>
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		<title>By: Kellie</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/06/26/fair-tax-friday-the-book-vs-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-176772</link>
		<dc:creator>Kellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew he was better than the rest of us. ;-)
He is soooo knowledgeable. Money does that, you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew he was better than the rest of us. <img src='http://www.peachpundit.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
He is soooo knowledgeable. Money does that, you know.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Deal</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/06/26/fair-tax-friday-the-book-vs-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-176770</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Deal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He is, so he has access to knowledge that us poorbies just cannot possible understand because we are not rich, like he is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is, so he has access to knowledge that us poorbies just cannot possible understand because we are not rich, like he is.</p>
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		<title>By: Kellie</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/06/26/fair-tax-friday-the-book-vs-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-176768</link>
		<dc:creator>Kellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So tell me Doug, is he filthy rich?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So tell me Doug, is he filthy rich?</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Deal</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/06/26/fair-tax-friday-the-book-vs-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-176767</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Deal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pisswater Collectivist.  The sooner you learn his real name, the easier you will ignore his insane rambling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pisswater Collectivist.  The sooner you learn his real name, the easier you will ignore his insane rambling.</p>
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		<title>By: Kellie</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/06/26/fair-tax-friday-the-book-vs-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-176766</link>
		<dc:creator>Kellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goldwater is no Conservative.</description>
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		<title>By: shotgunjohn</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/06/26/fair-tax-friday-the-book-vs-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-176763</link>
		<dc:creator>shotgunjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  There is nothing conservative about this post.  Is the nom de plume &#039;Goldwater Conservative&#039; some kind of device to fool us all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  There is nothing conservative about this post.  Is the nom de plume &#8216;Goldwater Conservative&#8217; some kind of device to fool us all?</p>
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		<title>By: shotgunjohn</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/06/26/fair-tax-friday-the-book-vs-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-176762</link>
		<dc:creator>shotgunjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh.  I was wrong about GC.  He is a visionary of truth and light?  Why aren&#039;t we smart enough to understand that?

His posts remind me of something else.... Oh Yeah!  They are like reading the speeches of the president!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh.  I was wrong about GC.  He is a visionary of truth and light?  Why aren&#8217;t we smart enough to understand that?</p>
<p>His posts remind me of something else&#8230;. Oh Yeah!  They are like reading the speeches of the president!!</p>
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		<title>By: shotgunjohn</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/06/26/fair-tax-friday-the-book-vs-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-176761</link>
		<dc:creator>shotgunjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When a person says &quot;there is nothing wrong with the current tax code&quot; (and then provides a list of changes to be made to the current tax code) that person&#039;s credibility is shot to hell.  Nothing wrong with the tax code?  There is nothing right about our current tax code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When a person says &#8220;there is nothing wrong with the current tax code&#8221; (and then provides a list of changes to be made to the current tax code) that person&#8217;s credibility is shot to hell.  Nothing wrong with the tax code?  There is nothing right about our current tax code.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/06/26/fair-tax-friday-the-book-vs-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-176755</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because the cultists are morons.</description>
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		<title>By: John Konop</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Konop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indy

The biggest problem is many Americans want to think they can get something for nothing, and the politicians feed off this to get re-elected. 

I told many of my friends when I ran for office I did it to educate people on economic issues. And when I pointed out the issues surrounding the out of control leverage via banks, consumers and government I was told this is not a winning message. 

And on this site years after I ran many still point out how I lost by many votes, while if they had listen to me they would be in better finical shape. 

The reason people like a Madoff can scam people is that mentality of wanting something for nothing ie the Fair Tax cult.  

I hope and pray a new generation of Americans wake up and realize our future is not about what they can pull out of the system. JFK said it best &quot;ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country&quot;

Ask Not What Your Country Can Do For You!

. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VB6hLg3PRbY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indy</p>
<p>The biggest problem is many Americans want to think they can get something for nothing, and the politicians feed off this to get re-elected. </p>
<p>I told many of my friends when I ran for office I did it to educate people on economic issues. And when I pointed out the issues surrounding the out of control leverage via banks, consumers and government I was told this is not a winning message. </p>
<p>And on this site years after I ran many still point out how I lost by many votes, while if they had listen to me they would be in better finical shape. </p>
<p>The reason people like a Madoff can scam people is that mentality of wanting something for nothing ie the Fair Tax cult.  </p>
<p>I hope and pray a new generation of Americans wake up and realize our future is not about what they can pull out of the system. JFK said it best &#8220;ask not what your country can do for you &#8211; ask what you can do for your country&#8221;</p>
<p>Ask Not What Your Country Can Do For You!</p>
<p>. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VB6hLg3PRbY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VB6hLg3PRbY</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bill Greene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Greene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 02:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I will be too, then. :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I will be too, then. :/</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Greene</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/06/26/fair-tax-friday-the-book-vs-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-176715</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Greene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 02:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, the preferred Constitutional way for the national government to levy taxes would be direct capitation taxation, laid in proportion to the census count (Article I, Section 9, Paragraph 4). But hey, I can dream. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, the preferred Constitutional way for the national government to levy taxes would be direct capitation taxation, laid in proportion to the census count (Article I, Section 9, Paragraph 4). But hey, I can dream. <img src='http://www.peachpundit.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: IndyInjun</title>
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		<dc:creator>IndyInjun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 02:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I corresponded with Mr. Vance to express appreciation for his article.

He says the cultists have bombarded him with emails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I corresponded with Mr. Vance to express appreciation for his article.</p>
<p>He says the cultists have bombarded him with emails.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Greene</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/06/26/fair-tax-friday-the-book-vs-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-176707</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Greene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 02:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to be a Fair Tax supporter. I still believe it is better than the current system (and if it ever got a vote in Congress, I&#039;d encourage a vote in favor); but that&#039;s not saying much.

After giving it a lot more study, I find my self in agreement with &lt;a href=&quot;http://mises.org/story/1814&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Laurence Vance&lt;/a&gt; at the Mises Institute: &quot;The only thing the FairTax does is change the way the state confiscates the wealth of its citizens.&quot; As Congressman Ron Paul &lt;a href=&quot;http://weblog.larrydburton.com/2006/09/26/ron-paul-and-the-fairtax&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;has said&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;the real key to tax reform is dramatically reduced spending by the federal government. Until the government spends far less, taxes (in whatever form) will remain too high. While I certainly support eliminating the income tax, I do not want to see it replaced with a high national sales tax which attempts to collect the same amount of revenue. Spending is the real problem.&quot;

Because the FairTax is a consumption tax, Murray Rothbard&#039;s conclusion about consumption taxes is apropos:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;The consumption tax, on the other hand, can only be regarded as a payment for permission-to-live. It implies that a man will not be allowed to advance or even sustain his own life, unless he pays, off the top, a fee to the State for permission to do so. The consumption tax does not strike me, in its philosophical implications, as one whit more noble, or less presumptuous, than the income tax.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Vance concludes, and I have to agree: &quot;The FairTax does nothing to tame the federal leviathan. The solution is nothing less than a drastic reduction or wholesale elimination of its revenue source. What is fair about allowing the government to confiscate 23 percent of the value of every new good and service? FairTax proponents may call it necessary legislation, but I call it highway robbery.&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to be a Fair Tax supporter. I still believe it is better than the current system (and if it ever got a vote in Congress, I&#8217;d encourage a vote in favor); but that&#8217;s not saying much.</p>
<p>After giving it a lot more study, I find my self in agreement with <a href="http://mises.org/story/1814" rel="nofollow">Laurence Vance</a> at the Mises Institute: &#8220;The only thing the FairTax does is change the way the state confiscates the wealth of its citizens.&#8221; As Congressman Ron Paul <a href="http://weblog.larrydburton.com/2006/09/26/ron-paul-and-the-fairtax" rel="nofollow">has said</a>: &#8220;the real key to tax reform is dramatically reduced spending by the federal government. Until the government spends far less, taxes (in whatever form) will remain too high. While I certainly support eliminating the income tax, I do not want to see it replaced with a high national sales tax which attempts to collect the same amount of revenue. Spending is the real problem.&#8221;</p>
<p>Because the FairTax is a consumption tax, Murray Rothbard&#8217;s conclusion about consumption taxes is apropos:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The consumption tax, on the other hand, can only be regarded as a payment for permission-to-live. It implies that a man will not be allowed to advance or even sustain his own life, unless he pays, off the top, a fee to the State for permission to do so. The consumption tax does not strike me, in its philosophical implications, as one whit more noble, or less presumptuous, than the income tax.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Vance concludes, and I have to agree: &#8220;The FairTax does nothing to tame the federal leviathan. The solution is nothing less than a drastic reduction or wholesale elimination of its revenue source. What is fair about allowing the government to confiscate 23 percent of the value of every new good and service? FairTax proponents may call it necessary legislation, but I call it highway robbery.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI5lC4Z_T80" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI5lC4Z_T80</a></p>
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		<title>By: rugby</title>
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		<dc:creator>rugby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are against it. 

Which reminds me, this new site is gorgeous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are against it. </p>
<p>Which reminds me, this new site is gorgeous.</p>
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		<title>By: IndyInjun</title>
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		<dc:creator>IndyInjun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JK,

Broaden the base, as I recommended above, and the combined state and federal rate would be less than 10%.

The whole topic is nonsensical, because the debt, insane deficits increasing the debt, the debt assumed with the GSE&#039;s, and the future debt in the entitlements require a 140% tax.</description>
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<p>Broaden the base, as I recommended above, and the combined state and federal rate would be less than 10%.</p>
<p>The whole topic is nonsensical, because the debt, insane deficits increasing the debt, the debt assumed with the GSE&#8217;s, and the future debt in the entitlements require a 140% tax.</p>
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		<title>By: GOPGeorgia</title>
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		<dc:creator>GOPGeorgia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know people who worked  at the post office for 10 years as a part time employee while working full time hours.  The work conditions were so great there for a while it was just a question of when an employee would &quot;go postal&quot; and start shooting.

I have had first class mail go through the north fulton facility and take three weeks to go through.

However, I do agree that the postal service is something the governemnt does best.  The military is good at killing people and breaking things.  They should not be used as a police force.

I&#039;m not sure what all this has to do with the FT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know people who worked  at the post office for 10 years as a part time employee while working full time hours.  The work conditions were so great there for a while it was just a question of when an employee would &#8220;go postal&#8221; and start shooting.</p>
<p>I have had first class mail go through the north fulton facility and take three weeks to go through.</p>
<p>However, I do agree that the postal service is something the governemnt does best.  The military is good at killing people and breaking things.  They should not be used as a police force.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what all this has to do with the FT.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/06/26/fair-tax-friday-the-book-vs-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-176563</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Konop has it correct: &lt;i&gt;As the size of the % transaction moves up all rational people who have looked at this idea concludes sales will go down via sticker shock and fraud will go up&lt;/i&gt;

BUT, FTxers have absolutely no clue as to the psychology of price vs. demand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Konop has it correct: <i>As the size of the % transaction moves up all rational people who have looked at this idea concludes sales will go down via sticker shock and fraud will go up</i></p>
<p>BUT, FTxers have absolutely no clue as to the psychology of price vs. demand.</p>
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		<title>By: John Konop</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2009/06/26/fair-tax-friday-the-book-vs-the-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-176560</link>
		<dc:creator>John Konop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indy

Very good point!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indy</p>
<p>Very good point!</p>
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