In this video, retired General and gubernatorial candidate David Poythress (who wants you to know that he served in the military), says that it’s foolish for some to even consider succession for Georgia because it’s cowardly. Instead, Poythress (who wants you to know that he served in the military) proclaims, “real leadership means we work toward common sense solutions to protect American values; not just quit our country because we don’t agree with other Americans.”
“That is an amazingly powerful video,” declared Icarus.
“Great message and excellent delivery,” exclaimed Progressive Dem during a rare moment of sobriety.
“It was much better than Cats. I’m going to see it again and again,” proclaimed one mysterious poster.
But 20 days have passed since the release of his video and we still haven’t heard one “common sense solution” from Poythress (who wants you to know he served in the military) for Georgia to take to stop the assault by the Federal government on our Constitution and the concept of Federalism. Was he going to actually propose something or just make a fancy video featuring him (and, he wants you to know, the fact that he served in the military)?
“Administration, Congress seek to rein in exec pay,” proclaims the Associated Press. What does Poythress (who wants you to know he served in the military), think about Georgia companies having limits on what they can pay their executives? Where is his “common sense solution” to get the Federal government to stop violating the Constitution here?
What about the “Employee Free Choice Act” that is going to throw many Georgians out of work as small businesses are crushed by labor demands as workers within them unionize and demand disproportionate benefits that said businesses cannot afford? Where, again, General Poythress (thanks for serving in the military, by the way) is a good “common sense solution” to put a stop to this potentially unconstitutional dictate from Washington, D.C., on how Georgia businesses are run?
Any ideas how General Poythress (who served in the military, by God!) is going to use his “common sense solutions” to get the Federal government to stop its attempt to ultimately ration health care and create an environment where Georgians will eventually be dying as they languish for years on waiting lists for medical procedures?
Also, what does General Poythress (did I mention his military service?) think about Federal deficit spending as clearly shown here and here? I’d love to hear the “common sense solutions” to bring out of control spending back within reason. Doubly so since it seems to result in billions and billions of dollars wasted on unconstitutional spending while cutbacks continue at the Department of Defense (a department, I believe, General Poythress may be familiar with since I was just told he used to serve in the military).
Do I want to have Georgia leave the United States? No.
Do I want to hear more than vapid, feel-good talk from someone who lambastes those that care about the Constitution and despair at its destruction…a Constitution, I note, which General Poythress (when he served in the military…who knew?) took an oath to defend and protect from all enemies foreign and domestic? Yes.
Bring forth the “common sense solutions,” General Poythress. We’re all still waiting to be enlightened by you.
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“Succession”??
I think he meant “secession.”
“General Poythress (when he served in the military…who knew?) took an oath to defend and protect from all enemies foreign and domestic”
but not to tell the truth…I love saying it…. Poythress is a liar.
GOPGeorgia,
You better stop that un-American talk before you get locked up for treason. You can’t call a man in uniform a liar, because that’s giving aid and comfort to our enemies. Don’t you know that fighting amongst ourselves is exactly what the terrorists want? If Al-Qaeda got ahold of your statement they’d use it as a recruting tool. And then you’d have the blood of our troops on your hands. You either love it or leave it!
I can call a man in uniform a lair if he is one. If he is lying, he is giving aid and comfort. I can say what I want (especially if it’s the truth) and I am staying right here. That’s the joy of my free speech. And if I weren’t so old and out of shape, I would have signed up after 9/11. I made a few calls about doing that and was told I am too old. (I know I am out of shape.)
Liar not lair
GOPGeorgia,
If white male voters had a dime for every couch potato patriot who says he/she “almost” joined after 9/11, we’d be a rich group of folks. They’re the same ones who held up the “country first” signs during the McCain campaign, but now want to leave the union because a black dude got elected President.
whitemalevoters, go bugger yourself
Now, I am not going to endorse anyone yet. But, I am going stand up for Poythress here. The following video helps to show his SPECIFIC goals for what he wants to do with transportation.
http://ugaliberal.blogspot.com/2009/06/poythress-on-transportation.html
Maybe if Georgia politicians would do a good job of taking care of our state, the Federal government would not feel the need to step in and fix the messes they leave behind.
I think Rogue would be better served perhaps citing a non-federal law in proving his point.
Then again, Rogue hasn’t ever been about anything other than salacious posts.
Well, over 8 years have passed and I’m still waiting to see what “they” meant by “Compassionate Conservatism.” Maybe it has something to do with attaching electrodes to the genitals of Iraqi men?…I don’t know.
I guess my point is political candidates will say anything (lie) for votes. I still don’t understand GOPGeorgia’s naive shock over this…although it would be quite amusing if it weren’t so predictable and tiring.
“but now want to leave the union because a black dude got elected President.”
First off, I’m not going anywhere and neither is Georgia. Secondly, if I did want to leave or Georgia to seceded, it would be because a socialist got elected President, not because he’s black. Third, if you want to call me a liar and question my intentions, that’s fine. However, if you are going to do it publicly, be able to show some proof. I think I’ve proven Poythress is a liar.
“I think I’ve proven Poythress is a liar.”
You’ve got the arrogance of a Libertarian I’ll say that.
LIMH,
I’m not naive. I’ve seen candidates lie before. A few times, I’ve even voted for them after they lied. However, this is one of the first cross party pieces of mud being slung in this race and I just feel like picking on Poythress.
I’m not a big fan of GOPGeorgia’s “liar” mantra, as he’s stated repeatedly that it is deliberate cynical “spin” (hint: spin is much more effective when you don’t openly CALL it “spin”). However, Barnes and Poythress HAVE stretched the “succession” thing far beyond the point of credibility… just like the Republicans’ overblown reaction against “moving to Canada” chatter 4 years ago.
They need some other gas in the tank if they’re going to make it through the next 18 months. Surely they can find more meaty issues to harp on.
Open challenge to anyone: Show me proof that all 4 GOP candidates in his video called for secession and I will give money to Poythress to show up on his disclosure. Until then, let’s all assume he’s a liar.
Guy’s let’s be real. I’m picking on the guy in last place. This is not going to be the meaty issue of the campaign.
“But 20 days have passed since the release of his video and we still haven’t heard one “common sense solution” from Poythress (who wants you to know he served in the military) for Georgia to take to stop the assault by the Federal government on our Constitution and the concept of Federalism.”
Because no such thing exists outside of far-right nut circles?
You’re trying to tar his military service, too. Nice, did Chambliss teach you that one in between blow jobs?
Terran, that last bit was out of line by Peach Pundit standards. It’s pretty easy to argue circles around GOPGeorgia in good taste… resorting to gutter crap like that just makes you look lazy and dumb.
Besides, as someone who doesn’t really identify with either major party, it disgusts me to see Dems hide behind flags and military uniforms after complaining for 8 years (or actually far longer) about the Republicans using similar tactics. Whichever party a veteran happens to affiliate with… your service warrants thanks, but doesn’t make you sacrosanct and beyond reproach.
“It’s pretty easy to argue circles around GOPGeorgia in good taste… resorting to gutter crap like that just makes you look lazy and dumb.”
hmmm guilty of not having good taste hmmmm
I know, I will try left leaning labels as not to offend.
Poythress = truthfully challenged? Does that help?
Does that make me look hard working and witty?
I was (partially) DEFENDING you, goof.
goof = not witty…..must try harder…the fair tax will solve it.
I re-read what you were saying. I agree that Terran1212 or Tehran666 or whatever he or she calls himself or herself was over the line.
Interestingly enough, attaching the mark of the beast to someone’s name isn’t over the line.
Very interesting.
GOPGeorgia,
White male voters will call you a liar. You’re just like every other fair-weather patriot. Admit it, even after 9/11 the closest you ever came to stepping foot into a recruiting center was when you drove by it on your way to the Piggly Wiggly to pick up Wonderbread and Mayo for your mayonaisse sandwhiches.
We get sick and tired of people who say “well, I almost joined but…”, like it’s suppose to give them some time of credibility. For the record, military service isn’t for everyone. And there are plenty of ways to be a patriot without joining the military, but please spare us the self-righteous “I almost joined, but…” mantra. You didn’t almost join. You almost gave the recruting station a second glance on the way back from Piggly Wiggly. That’s what you “almost” did. So yeah, we’re calling you a liar. Prove me wrong. If you can provide one iota of evidence that you “almost” did anything, we’ll pay you whatever you are gonna pay Poythress.
Buddah the Magnificent,
We’d rather bugger your mother. In fact, we just did. White male voters everwhere have buggered your mother. Do you even know your father?
“Question: What is the maximum age to enlist in the Military?
Answer: The maximum age of non-prior service enlistment, under federal law used to be age 35. In 2006 the Army tried to convinced Congress to change this to age 44. Congress thought age 44 was too high, but raised the maximum enlistment age, under law, from 35 to age 42.
Regardless of federal law, the military services are allowed to impose more strict standards — and many of them have. The maximum age for non-prior service enlistments for each of the services are:
•Active duty Army – 42
•Army Reserves – 42
•Army Natinal Guard – 42
•Active duty Air Force – 27
•Air Force Reserve – 34
•Air National guard – 34
•Active duty Navy – 34
•Navy Reserves – 39
•Active duty Marines – 28
•Marine Corps Reserves – 29
•Active duty Coast Guard – 27
•Coast Guard Reserves – 27″
In September of this year I will be 44. In September of 2001, I was 36. I was unaware of the age change in 2006 until I looked this up. Otherwise, I might have had another chance. I’m not getting into my health history, but let me know if you want to know where to send the check.
FYI, I went into 2 recruiting stations in 2001 and had conversations. After that, I made phone calls.
FYI, I went into 2 recruiting stations in 2001 and had conversations. After that, I made phone calls.
Translation: “I did a google search five minutes ago to research the maximum age limits for non-prior enlisted service, copied and pasted my search results, made up a sad sounding story, so now my original lie seems more credible”
GOPGeorgia is a liar! I love saying it.
You can say it all you want but you asked for any type of proof. I have submitted age requirements. It’s a fact that can’t be disputed. Why did you expect? A copy of an application form that was stamped rejected? I don’t bother to fill out paperwork unless it has a chance of being productive. I could provide the street address of where I went, the names of the people I talked to and a sworn statement from them, and it still wouldn’t be enough for you.
“White male voters” is a liar and a welcher! It doesn’t give me as much of a thrill as saying Poythress is a liar. I’m still waiting for proof that Poythress didn’t lie. If it can be provided, I will write the check that day. Unlike others, I am a man of my word.
GOPGeorgia,
I am confused. What was it you did from 1985-2000 to show your patriotism? What have you done from 2002-2009?
I understand that once in 2001 you almost joined the military, and hence are a great patriot, but what about the other years?
Ok Joe,
I’ll take that challenge to explain what I have done that I consider patriotic throughout my life. I find it a little strange that no one else is challenged to do this or prove that they are patriotic.
There were a few years that I spent in college, and that’s just something I had to do to prepare for life. In 1988, I joined the College Republicans at Dalton College. I have been involved with the GOP in many different ways since then. I ran for public office in 1996. I have managed campaigns and ran GOP organizations. By no means am I inferring that others who are involved with the Democrat party are not patriotic. On the contrary, I think anyone who wants to get involved and try to make their country better either by running for office or trying to get others elected to enact real change are expressing patriotism.
I could stop there, but I’ll give you an example of service to community. I have been involved with the Alliance of Guardian Angels since 1989 in several different capacities. I have spoken with kids about not doing drugs. I have walked in high crime neighborhoods and enacted citizens arrests and walked in on and prevented muggings. I have organized neighborhood street cleanings. I have taught women’s self defense courses. I have ran into burning buildings to look for people who have been overcome by smoke. I walked into one drug area on the fourth of July where we held a news conference that we are declaring this neighborhood’s independence day from drug dealers and drug users and got firebombed later that night. I have help start other chapters in other cities, and was the chapter leader for Chattanooga TN. I am currently trying to help start a chapter in Atlanta. Who’s willing to join? Joe? WMV?
There’s more I could say about starting businesses, voting, posting on here, other groups that I have belonged to and so on that are different forms of patriotism. Does that answer your question enough?
Interestingly enough, part of your patriotism includes either not learning the proper name of the two parties, or deliberately choosing to not even show decency toward one of the parties by calling it by its proper name.
For those who need proof that have been/ am involved: http://www.myspace.com/chattanoogaguardianangels
“Interestingly enough, part of your patriotism includes either not learning the proper name of the two parties, or deliberately choosing to not even show decency toward one of the parties by calling it by its proper name.”
or it involves being sick by catching a cold from my two wonderful nieces and not doing a spell check or re reading what I am about to post. I am sure that EVERYTHING that rugby has posted is perfect in spelling and grammar.
I don’t think you’ve ever called the Democratic Party anything other than the Democrat Party.
Rugby,
I have called the Democratic Party of Georgia many things. Yes, I have called them the Democrat party many times. I have also called them demon-rats. but that was in just and among friends. Before I go searching for a post where I referred to them as the Democratic party, I need you to do two things for us.
First explain why you are a patriot. I’m not sure why we are doing this, but if I have to play by one set of rules, so do you.
Secondly, take a look at an excerpt of post of yours. “Our market based system has failed. Completely.” Please give us a grammatical break down of the second sentence. We need to know what the subject of the sentence is, what the verb is, any direct objects, adjectives, adverbs, and so on.
‘just” should be “jest”
“I find it a little strange that no one else is challenged to do this or prove that they are patriotic.”
You are the one who said “And if I weren’t so old and out of shape, I would have signed up after 9/11.”
Well, I signed up before 9/11 and had been retired for over 4 years on 9/11. I agree that Poythress is a liar, or at least is really stretching the truth, but I also know that he really is a patriot, and would never acuse him of “giving aid and comfort”, which in military circles conotes ‘…to the enemy.’ That in of itself would be treason if it were true.
You point primarily to politics to show that you are a patriot, yet many politicians today are in it more for power than patriotism. You are just like them.
I will not be voting for Poythress, but just like whitemalevoters, I dislike an arm-chair patriot spouting crap.
Joe,
I am proud of you for your service. You may dislike me “spouting crap” which you have admitted that is basically true that Poythress is a liar. I’ll admit I went too far with the aid and comfort comment, but keeping it in context, I was told the following:
“You can’t call a man in uniform a liar, because that’s giving aid and comfort to our enemies.”
So apparently it is being said that you are giving aid and comfort if you agree that he is a liar.
There are many types of politicians. Some are out for a pay check. Some are out for a sweetheart deal. Others just want government to work better. I consider myself the latter. I haven’t received a pay check for my political work in a long time. I’m not in it for the money. Power is subjective. You don’t need a title to wield power. If you get a title, then it becomes a question of what you do and why. People will always question your motives.
I would not demean you to say that you joined the military to kill people. Please give me the same respect and assume that I didn’t enter politics for the power.
I never questioned your patriotism.
A complete sentence doesn’t need adjectives, adverbs or direct objects. I’m guessing you’ve never seen someone break grammatical rules for effect, or you’re going down the path of enlightened internet debate of becoming a Grammar Nazi.
There is no such thing as “secondly” when enumerating points. It implies your second point is only partly second in your thesis. It is also terribly unattractive prose.
GOPGeorgia is a liar and an arm-chair patriot.
and what have you done?
“White male voters” is a liar and a welcher!
In the sentence in question, “secondly” is an adverb that describes the verb look.
Then you are a terrible writer because there is nothing in the sentence to suggest that you are describing “look” , nor is it an appropriate way to describe look. It is clearly, in the way you’ve used it, there to enumerate points.
Of course this doesn’t mention the fact that “secondly” is essentially made up and inelegant.
One can write a one word sentence. The word “run” could be used in such an example. The subject is an implied you and the verb is to run. The word “completely” is an adverb. There is no subject nor verb in the sentence.
You may not like my style of writing, but it is more technically correct than yours, if we look at just the two examples cited. If my unattractive prose and inelegant writing offends, you can opt not to read my posts.
By the way, you started your last reply with the word then.
Is it grammatically correct to do so? No. Then is a subordinating conjunction and subordinating conjunctions introduce dependent clauses. A sentence is an independent clause so, logically speaking, you cannot start a sentence with “then.”
The hijack police should be showing up at any moment. Poythress has no real solutions. Does everyone feel better now?
Common Sense? I laugh.
Common Sense would dictate that Poythress should drop out of the governors race.
Isn’t Poythress a subordinating conjunction?
“You may not like my style of writing, but it is more technically correct than yours”
Your arrogance knows no bounds.
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