SB 31 Passes

107 to 66

The Georgia GOP just shot themselves in the foot

Massive Army of slimebag lobbyists and whoring legislators: 1. Peach Pundit: 0

Updated with the vote results here

63 comments

  1. onthefence says:

    Either way, thank you PP for getting the word, keeping me informed getting me to hold my elected official accountable. Good job!

  2. odinseye2k says:

    Give it a day or two. The Senate Vote is already up on the GGA website. The House Vote should join it soon.

  3. Technocrat says:

    Just shows the relative political weakness of those who were against this bill and their lack of clout. Often Bloggers and Blogs get their hat handed to them when they hang their reputation on some significant issue instead of being neutral and just informative.

    Now we can deal with how to financially build the next ten nukes, remember South Carolina [not Southern company] has 7 NOW and just approved 2 more so we will still be 3 behind in 2017.

  4. Technocrat,

    Sure, many of us took a stand against SB31 and we lost. I hardly think we hung our reputation on the issue. We’ll all have plenty to say on other stuff in addition to how these nuclear plants get financed.

    You better pray Georgia Power’s talking points on this bill are correct ’cause the poop’s gonna hit the fan.

  5. El_Capatain says:

    Can we start a coalition to run against every R that voted for this bill? They should/will be replaced when their term is done. I personally supported many of them in many ways and have regrets now.

  6. Bill Simon says:

    Techno,

    Who is this “we” crap? We citizens of Georgia DO NOT OWN Georgia Power. The people that work for Georgia Power are NOT Government workers.

    So, this “we can now build the power plants” is not “we, the people”…it is YOU the electric utility invading our living space to forcibly extract money to pay for YOUR expansion. Your risk has been eliminated.

    That’s not “capitalism” anymore, Dude. This is a destruction of free market forces. Congrats! Your side has now contributed as much to the downfall of a capitalistic society as the Obama Administration and the Democratically-controlled Congress will do.

    Pat yourself on the back. Make sure you stuff those campaign coffers of the people you were able to successfully lie to. They’re going to need it. LOTS of it.

  7. griftdrift says:

    “Just shows the relative political weakness of those who were against this bill and their lack of clout. Often Bloggers and Blogs get their hat handed to them when they hang their reputation on some significant issue instead of being neutral and just informative.”

    In case you haven’t noticed, lately I’m pretty damned sick of nabobs proudly thumping their chests and proclaiming what blogs are and what they are not.

    You know what happens with SB31 without Clark Howard and the blogs? It’s just another technical bill that flies through both houses, is signed by the Governor and no one knows the better until Georgia Power customers open their bills in a few years and go “what the hell!”

    No, we didn’t change the outcome but we certainly changed the awareness. The outcomes will happen eventually.

    Those who don’t recognize this reality should just stick their heads back where the sun don’t shine because you obviously don’t care about seeing beyond your own posterior.

  8. Icarus says:

    “Often Bloggers and Blogs get their hat handed to them when they hang their reputation on some significant issue instead of being neutral and just informative.”

    I didn’t realize bloggers were supposed to be neutral. Ever.

    But to the bigger point, I would rather lose on the side of being right, than to win on the side of wrong.

    I’ll sleep well tonight. I wonder how many of our legislators will.

  9. Chris’ powers are kinda scary. He somehow managed to grab a scanned image of an actual print out of the vote already. (At top of this post)

    Though I’m glad he was able to save me some effort analyzing my screen grabs – I was halfway done when I got word that he had the PDF – I was hoping to be the one to break the details. πŸ™

    Oh well, maybe next time!

  10. Dash Riptide says:

    They’ll sleep just fine. After all, the lobbyists assured the bill’s supporters that all opposition from all quarters was based on “a lot of misinformation out there.” I heard it parroted several times by supporters before the vote.

    “A Georgia Power lobbyist said it. I believe it. That settles it.”

    Well played, Georgia Power.

  11. SpaceyG says:

    Well too bad. Play again next go ’round. Heck, for a moment there I almost was back to looking at Peach Pundit. Almost. Back to TMZ for moi. Catch you clowns at the next rodeo.

  12. You didn’t really think we would just steamroll over this bill? It’s not about that. It’s about raising awareness and trying to slow it down, which I would say the people here have done.

    The GOP has just hurt itself, and I am not sure how bad the damage will be.

  13. Tinkerhell says:

    Pretty clear why Jim Cole was dodgy when he responded to my request to vote no on this one. I just hate that it will be so long before the general populous will wake up to this happening (when it shows up on our power bills). By that time those responsible will be more or less out of reach for punishment. Gotta love the vast sea of ignorance that is the general populous. Thanks PP for what you do!

  14. Icarus says:

    Jim Cole is a climber, and isn’t going to do anything that might bring any level of discomfort from the Speaker.

  15. Dash Riptide says:

    My peeps voted no and abstained, respectively. I may have to move in order to vote someone out of office.

  16. My Rep voted no. The SWGA Delegation was 4-3-1.

    The yeas from the area: Mike Cheokas (D-Americus), Carol Fullerton (D-Albany), Buddy Harden (R-Cordele), Jay Powell (R-Camilla).

    The nays from the area: Winfred Dukes (D-Albany), Bob Hanner (D-Parrott), Ed Rynders (R-Albany).

    Gerald Greene (D-Cuthbert) was excused.

  17. LoyaltyIsMyHonor says:

    My legislators, Golick and Stoner, both voted NO. Smyrna Whitetrash are smiling today. Too bad the same can’t be said for the rest of the state πŸ™

  18. Technocrat says:

    I’m not sure this blog [or any blog] and all the support it could muster could affect the outcome for a single Representative’s or Senators election or vote.
    But it did get a few mentions from the podium during the debate.
    Who known in a few years it might amount to something if you can find and maintain support for serious issues. Daily exercise is healthy.
    Keep up the good work.
    Here’s to: When 50,000 voters read and participate in it every day.

  19. Georgia Judge says:

    No surprise with this one,and the Governor will sign it.

    Jim Cole is one of the good guys and the kind of people we need in politics.

  20. Bill Simon says:

    Techno-dumbas,

    Hey, blogs are growing entities, Buddy. They and Facebook greatly helped Obama win a national presidency.

    So, blogs can help win issues. That this one did not in this particular case doesn’t mean it cannot help get info out in the future.

  21. concernedhall says:

    Wow. Looks like Hall County was for it. All except Carl Rogers. He is a former democrat. Looks like he still has good sense.

    Anyone hear how the supplement went. I heard Allan Powell voted against it. Said it contained too many unfunded mandates that will only increased property taxes by way of school funding cuts. That is what we were saying about all of Sonny Perdue’s budget.

    Too bad my representative (James Mills) is a special interest stooge. I am sure he voted for both the supplemental and S.B. 31.

  22. fishtail says:

    PEACH PUNDIT has arrived as an influence when the moon and stars properly align. The legislators who voted for this dog will be dealt with, and those that voted against it should be awarded with support in their individual districts later. Let me assure you that I will keep a scorecard and I hope everyone else here will as well. Maybe Erick can start a PAC to haunt these jerks who supported SB31. I will gladly give the first $1,000. Give ’em hell, Erick.

  23. Game Fan says:

    Buzz
    re: “Sure, many of us took a stand against SB31 and we lost. I hardly think we hung our reputation on the issue.”

    Welcome to my world. And what is “reputation” all about anyway? Getting on the winning side every time? NO WAY!

  24. bowersville says:

    Note to Georgia Power, Technocrat and Republicans.

    Each of you are to be congratulated, you won and we the people lost.

    Georgia Power will have cost over runs, it’s the nature of the beast. Concrete, steal, labor, environmental red tape and other factors will drive up costs. And the winner will be share holders of Georgia Power, not the rate payer. Georgia has adopted a law that guarantees a profit for investors and it will come back even if it’s 2012 when the dun comes due.

    The Georgia Republican Party has made it plain, big business and share holders are more important than grass roots. Good luck with that. The Republican US House and US Senate led the charge to Little Big Horn, no need for the Georgia GOP to do otherwise.

  25. South Fulton Guy says:

    Today;s defeat for us on SB31 is not a renouncement of the power of bloggers any more than it is a failure of the power of reason, what’s right or what’s fair.

    It is just a sober reminder that GA Power’s Corporate Lobbying dollars trump, rhyme, reason and equity for consumers who cannot chose to obtain electricity elsewhere in a monopolistic arrangement.

    Though the road to term limits is a steep one, its to only remedy to politicians thumbing their nose to the will of the people they allegedly serve.

  26. atlantaman says:

    “Georgia Power will have cost over runs, it’s the nature of the beast. Concrete, steal, labor, environmental red tape and other factors will drive up costs…Georgia has adopted a law that guarantees a profit for investors ”

    I don’t think SB31 has anything to do with your statement. If you contract with someone to build you a house for $1,00,000 that will take three years to build, and you had to give the builder $100,000 before he hammered the first nail, but also had to pay the builder finance carrying costs for the remaining $900,000, it’s not guaranteeing him a profit.

    Now you’re free to argue with him about the fairness of the NPV of the $100,00 versus the finance charge he’s charging you, but it’s no profit guarantee.

  27. bowersville says:

    ATl, I don’t know where you bank, and I don’t know how much money you have to p1ss up a tree, but I wouldn’t give a jack leg contractor a $100K three year advance on a dam(n) thing or trust any @ss hole that’s going to take 3 years to build a million dollar house.

    I guess you are one of those idiots in the up side down mortgages that’s foreclosing. But that’s just me.

  28. Just posted a note to GA Power employees, families, and other supporters on SWGA Politics.

    It came as a result of a person I’ve literally known commenting on my FB wall that she enjoys being able to eat and have a roof over her head. Her husband, one of the most honorable men I’ve ever known, works for GA Power. (To this day I’m not sure exactly what he does, but as I understand it he works in downtown Atlanta)

    The list of all who voted FOR SB 31 should be up tonight. I doubt I’ll have time to both eat breakfast AND finish it before time to go to work.

  29. B Balz says:

    I heard one Rep. invoke PeachPundit during the last moments of debate. This media will grow in strength and efficacy as people become more involved with the political process.

    No longer will anyone be able to keep stories out of the public purview, if the public controls the ‘means of production’. With that comes huge responsibility.

    Was that Spacey or did I hear seagulls screaching aimlessly into the ocean breeze?

  30. If I remember correctly, it was DuBose Porter himself, and maybe one other, that made the reference.

    Erick Erickson and Dubose Porter agreeing on something? I don’t know them too well, but it seems to me somebody better be checking the temperature of Hell and watching for flying pigs and reading worms.

  31. From FB:

    Daniel pledges $1000 to the first GOP challenger (constitutional, fiscal conservative) to announce to run for Georgia State Rep District 112 to run against Doug Holt.

    Not on FB, but will honor:

    Daniel pledges $1000 to the first DEM challenger (constitutional, fiscal conservative) to announce to run for Georgia State Rep District 112 to run against Doug Holt.

    Daniel pledges $1000 (plus) and his time to the first Libertarian challenger to announce to run for Georgia State Rep District 112 to run against Doug Holt.

  32. Technocrat says:

    “Note to Georgia Power, Technocrat and Republicans.
    Each of you are to be congratulated, you won and we the people lost.”

    What makes you think I was FOR passage of SB31. I was just providing info in my post not taking a stand on the prepayment issue.

    After 13 years on Net [17 with dialup BOARDS] and administrating/moderating many large sites some with 100,000 members and 5 million posts. I’ve learned to just provide technical info and not take sides on petty issues.

    Unfortunately many ” who are against issues or have rigid preconceived notions” don’t want info provided that might weaken their case. I’m not sure who are the worst offenders Democrats or Republicans.

    Compared to what’s coming when utility bills double this SB31 will seem an inconsequental waste of time – fighting over a few dollars per month.

  33. IndyInjun says:

    Why fight anymore?

    Just go buy Southern Company stock.

    The last Plant Vogtle fiasco was marked by massive construction fraud, collossal mismanagement, and indifference to cost overruns because the larger the cost base, the larger the utility rates ‘justified.’

    If the middle class in this country doesn’t come to its senses and SEEK OUT AND ELECT iconoclasts willing to tear apart the cabal of fraudsters, oligarchs, and puppet politicians, they are doomed.

    We need people who are fearless in defense of middle America, the Constitution.

    The underclass has a pipeline to the Treasury. The oligarchs have an aqueduct. Time for a little demolition work!

  34. DonnieChaffin says:

    Go out and buy Southern Company stock if you want, but this decision is not going to make any real money for the stockholders as I have previously suggested . You’ll get your 5% dividend (which is not bad), but not much else. My guess is the market knew this decision was coming and wasn’t impressed. Southern Company stock was around 38 at the end of 2008 and it’s trading around 30-31 right now. Yesterday the stock lost almost 2% and it’s down another 1% today.

  35. rugby says:

    “I’ve learned to just provide technical info and not take sides on petty issues.”

    Well this isn’t a petty issue, and if you actually think it is, you’ve expressed enough.

  36. cheapseats says:

    here’s my idea: I plan to send a campaign contribution to every single member of the General Assembly that voted for this gut-pile – in the amount of $1.30

    I think, for a while at least, I’ll short-pay all of my Georgia Power bills in the amount of $1.30, too. They ain’t gonna cut off my power for that amount. πŸ˜‰

  37. bowersville says:

    The only petty issue on this board is Technocrat the wonder boy. The wonder boy who is objective, no opinion, just the facts.

    The fights over for now, Technocrap. You come on here, rub our nose in your crap and claim innocence. How unique.

  38. atlantaman says:

    Bowers-

    Perhaps in your criticism of my analogy you can explain how SB31 “guarantees” GA Power a profit. I’m not disputing the complaints folks have about opportunity cost of money, although I think 14% is a bit high.

    In your previous email you mentioned a bunch of stuff about cost overruns, price of steel, guarantee of profit and I’m trying to figure out how SB31 covers all that.

  39. Bill Simon says:

    Because they are guaranteed their Return on EVERYTHING they invest in the nukeplant at the very moment they invest the funds.

    That means that cost overruns, waste, fraud, graft, etc. can occur because it is NOT Georgia Power’s money on the line, it is the ratepayers…and this bill will allow Ga Power to keep charging and collecting money on something that has no guarantee of an efficiant end game day.

  40. newdayinga says:

    Concerned

    You are right Mills is a gutless wonder who is owned by the special interest.

    Did you noticed that our local paper didn’t even interview him for the story. They got quotes from Collins and Rogers, but they couldn’t find which rock Mills was hiding under.

    Maybe people will wake up. I hear a republican may run against him next year. I’ll vote for anybody but him.

  41. newdayinga says:

    Concerned

    I agree Mills is a scumbag and is owned by the special interest. Did you notice that our local paper did not get a comment from him regarding SB 31. They quoted Collins and Rogers, but couldn’t find which rock Mills was hiding under.

    Maybe this will spark a republican challenge for him.

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