State Rep. Tyrone Brooks (D-Moronville) attempts to fix what isn’t broken and stop all those racist, white cops we have in Georgia

January 15, 2009 12:39 pm

by Pete Randall · 39 comments

State Representative Tyrone Brooks has decided that it is again time for him to remedy what isn’t broken and, in the process, grow the bureaucracy and ultimately hurt law enforcement across Georgia.

His poorly thought out answer to accomplish all this is House Bill 53, which is co-sponsored by five other Democrats who also evidently seek to hurt law enforcement.

In effect, HB53 would stop “racial profiling” from being the basis for an arrest by a law enforcement officer…except, it doesn’t stop there (and isn’t even needed, to boot).

HB 53, in particular, states that “[l]aw enforcement officers shall not use a person’s race or ethnicity to form probable cause or reasonable suspicion to stop a vehicle but may use a person’s race or ethnicity to confirm a previously obtained description of a suspect.”

Super, Representative Brooks, except that is already the law. State v. Armstrong, 223 Ga. App. 350, 351; 477 S.E.2d 635, 637 (1996) already lays out what is required for a reasonable, articulable suspicion for a traffic stop. What the Court of Appeals requires, at a bare minimum, is “objective observations, information from police reports, the modes or patterns of certain kinds of lawbreakers, and the inferences drawn and dedications made by a trained law enforcement officer.” Some examples of this can be found in any violation of O.C.G.A. Title 40, Chapter 6, where a variety of traffic violations are listed.

But that’s what Brooks wants to fix, some may say! All those racist white cops who pull over innocent black people must be stopped and the law doesn’t protect them!

Not so fast, amigo.

State v. Winnie, 242 Ga. App. 228, 529 S.E.2d 215 (2000) makes clear that the mere fact that an officer thinks that a driver’s behavior is unusual will not establish a justification for a stop if the driver commits no traffic violation, is conducting no apparant criminal activity and is making no attempt to flee. Thus, simply being a member of an ethnic community is insufficient for a stop by an officer and such a case would be thrown out of court if it even made it that far.

The real goal of Representative Brooks and his motley crew of fools is contained further down in the proposed legislation. Every time a vehicle is stopped “to issue a citation or to make an arrest, that officer shall document the following information in a public record whose format shall be determined by the Department of Motor Vehicle Safety: (A) The gender of the driver; (B) The race or ethnicity of the driver; (C) The suspected violation that led to the stop; (D) Whether the vehicle, personal effects, driver, or any passenger was searched and, if any passenger or his or her effects were searched, the passenger’s gender and the passenger’s race or ethnicity; (E) Whether a search was conducted pursuant to consent, probable cause, or reasonable suspicion to suspect a crime, including the approximate duration of the search and the basis for the request for consent or the circumstances establishing probable cause or reasonable suspicion; (F) Whether contraband was found, the type and approximate amount of contraband, and whether contraband was seized; (G) Whether any arrest, citation, or any oral or written warning was issued as a result of the stop; (H) Whether the officer making the stop encountered any physical resistance, whether the officer engaged in the use of force, and whether injuries resulted; (I) Whether the circumstances surrounding the stop were the subject of any investigation and the results of that investigation; and (J) The location of the stop.”

If a stop is made and the officer does not issue a citation, “then the officer shall provide the motorist with a card showing the officer’s name, badge number, and the name of the officer’s law enforcement agency.
Law enforcement agencies shall maintain the data required to be collected of this subsection for not less than seven years.”

Now, what is so bad about this? First, it places yet another burden on the Department of Motor Vehicle Safety to maintain additional databases to store all this information for each traffic stop everywhere in the state, categorized by each individual officer. This is an unneeded expense because this information is already recorded on the traffic citation which is maintained in the Magistrate and State Court for each respective county. It’s only the disposition of each citation which is transmitted to the Department of Drivers Services.

What is even more distressing is that this database will be able to be utilized to pull up, for each officer, the percentages of his traffic stops based upon race (as if that is the only criteria that law enforcement utilizes in its efforts to keep the community safe). Thus, a white officer working in South DeKalb is (gasp) going to appear quite racist to Representative Brooks when his records are run because 90% of those he stops are black! Of course, the black officer in Paulding County who stops whites 90% of the time won’t be racist, mind you.

All this legislation will do is give pause to white officers in the performance of their duties to consider if stopping someone they believe is committing criminal acts will hurt their careers because the suspect is of a certain racial group.

Representative Brooks, who is also president of these clowns, should drop his own bigotry and realize that his efforts will only serve to hurt the communities he seeks to help and that law enforcement in Georgia is not populated by the raving racists he seems to think are there.

{ 39 comments }

boyreporter January 15, 2009 at 12:47 pm

“…law enforcement in Georgia is not populated by the raving racists he seems to think are there.”

Yes, it is. The population of racists in law enforcement does not have to be total to be a huge problem. Where have you been?

Your screaming hysteria over a bill that you could oppose simply by saying it is redundant and even potentially harmful to the majority of law enforcement people is telling. You and Erick never fail to demonstrate a wide racist streak with your knee-jerk postings that give you the opportunity to call black groups “clowns” and such and to belittle any grievance they might bring up, real or imagined.

Rogue109 January 15, 2009 at 12:53 pm

Yes, it is.

No, it isn’t. There also is a population of racists/bigots in the democratic caucus of the Georgia General Assembly. Can we deal with that, as well?

You seem to only believe that bigotry, which is truly what is at issue here, is a one-way street. ‘Fraid not, guy. Stand up for truth for once and take the blinders off the massive ignorance you seem to treasure so much.

This bill seeks to make law what is already law, to increase bureaucracy, and create another mechanism by which clowns like Brooks can seek to reduce the effectiveness of law enforcement in communities where they are most needed.

It’s your own bigotry that keeps you from realizing the truth of the matter. I want ALL our communities safe where ALL Georgians live. You seem to want to pick and choose. Start treating everyone equally and maybe you’ll understand.

I’m moving on. Have a good afternoon!

rugby January 15, 2009 at 12:56 pm

SpaceyG vs Rogue109 returns!

And it is better than Andre vs Decaturguy!

odinseye2k January 15, 2009 at 12:58 pm

Hooray! As a side note, most of the police officers I come across are actually black – but that is being ITP, after all.

Don’t know about traffic patrol – I’m usually too busy looking for El Radar.

heroV January 15, 2009 at 1:01 pm

Speaking of fixing what isn’t broken, see the GA Voter ID law. Did you have the same level of outrage with that one?

LoyaltyIsMyHonor January 15, 2009 at 1:03 pm

Wow, so much anger between Rogue and BR….Geez, the true intention of the bill is to get re-elected. Nothing more. I think it’s safe to assume that this bill has a lot of support in his district. I mean let’s face it, this has zero chance of making it out of committee let alone final passage. Legislators introduce dozens of bills a year that they know won’t pass, but it makes some people at home happy.

I guess if we don’t poke fun at them on PP we’d have very little to do on here ;)

Rogue109 January 15, 2009 at 1:12 pm

Loyalty: your assessment is spot on. This bill isn’t going to go anywhere and there isn’t a lot of stuff to cover today. Thus, why not point out again that Brooks is still a loon?

It was either post this or something about the President of Belize getting married in a few days in Savannah. The answer about which one to go with was obvious.

Boyreporter, like SpaceyG, is harmless as the totality of their comments amount to little genuine thought and mostly just catch phrases. No biggie!

LoyaltyIsMyHonor January 15, 2009 at 1:23 pm

Rogue it’s cool, I wasn’t questionining your post, after all it gave me something to read while I continue to procrastinate on my work.

Do wish we could see more of Bambi and Kiki though…that’s why I support Senator Murphy’s bill….hopefully we’ll get some dancers to come to the Cap and testify against the bill.

Jmac January 15, 2009 at 1:36 pm

Rogue109 said …

Boyreporter, like SpaceyG, is harmless as the totality of their comments amount to little genuine thought and mostly just catch phrases

After he said the following …

… which is truly what is at issue here, is a one-way street

This bill seeks to make law what is already law, to increase bureaucracy

You seem to want to pick and choose

I’m moving on. Have a good afternoon!

It’s probably more helpful for your argument if you don’t resort to countering supposed catchphrases by employing your own catchphrases.

atlantaman January 15, 2009 at 1:38 pm

This bill is pandering at it’s worst. It has no chance of passing and if it did pass it wouldn’t do one iota of good when it comes to fixing real or perceived racism within the ranks of law enforcement. All it will do is give trial lawyers one more stream of cash flow as they can go out and sue already financially distressed cities, like Atlanta, every time a black man is pulled over.

Icarus January 15, 2009 at 1:39 pm

Whatyoutalkinabout JMAC? I find his arguments Dy-No-Mite! If you don’t like them, you can kiss my grits.

(with apologies to the most of you who aren’t old enough to have suffered through 70′s television)

Mid Georgia Retiree January 15, 2009 at 1:50 pm

Rep. Brooks has obviously never looked at an Incident Report that is usually filled out each time a person is arrested. The majority of the information that would be required in the bill offered by TB is filled out on the incident report. atlantaman is correct. This bill is pandering at its best. TB’s name hasn’t been in the AJC or his face on TV lately. He’s just trying to make up for missed opportunities.

drjay January 15, 2009 at 1:57 pm

i beleive nwa has already addressed this issue

F#$ tha police
Comin straight from the underground
Young nigga got it bad cuz I’m brown
And not the other color so police think
They have the authority to kill a minority

F*ck that sh*t, cuz I ain’t tha one
For a punk muthaf*cka with a badge and a gun
To be beatin on, and throwin in jail
We could go toe to toe in the middle of a cell

F*ckin with me cuz I’m a teenager
With a little bit of gold and a pager
Searchin my car, lookin for the product
Thinkin every nigga is sellin narcotics

You’d rather see me in the pen
Then me and Lorenzo rollin in the Benzo
Beat tha police outta shape
And when I’m finished, bring the yellow tape
To tape off the scene of the slaughter
Still can’t swallow bread and water

I don’t know if they fags or what
Search a nigga down and grabbin his nuts
And on the other hand, without a gun they can’t get none
But don’t let it be a black and a white one
Cuz they slam ya down to the street top
Black police showin out for the white cop

Ice Cube will swarm
On any muthaf*cka in a blue uniform
Just cuz I’m from the CPT, punk police are afraid of me
A young nigga on a warpath
And when I’m finished, it’s gonna be a bloodbath
Of cops, dyin in LA
Yo Dre, I got somethin to say

F@#% the police

Daniel N. Adams January 15, 2009 at 2:05 pm

Icurus,

Started early today, I see.

Icarus January 15, 2009 at 2:13 pm

To the surprise of no one who read my “warning” on face book this morning.

Rogue109 January 15, 2009 at 2:14 pm

It’s probably more helpful for your argument if you don’t resort to countering supposed catchphrases by employing your own catchphrases.

“Have a good afternoon” is a catchphrase? LOL! (I get your point, though.)

boyreporter January 15, 2009 at 2:15 pm

Rogue, you just use blustering and a faux tough guy monicker to scratch your arrogant, racist itches that come along so often you really ought to start wondering about them and seek help. Where’d all the anger come from? Keep venting, though. It keeps you off the streets (except when you run to get Erick’s coffee).

Rogue109 January 15, 2009 at 2:20 pm

LOL, you are an absolute hoot, boyreporter!

You think treating everyone equally under the law is arrogant and racist? Uh, okay, then!

Daniel N. Adams January 15, 2009 at 2:24 pm

Didn’t get it. FB friendship request on the way.

redrock January 15, 2009 at 2:47 pm

Great work Rep. Brooks.

The state is sucking air…revenue is down 10% and you want to create more bureaucratic garbage.

Plus Rogue is right. This is inconsequential legislation that only keeps white cops from doing their job.

odinseye2k January 15, 2009 at 2:57 pm

Dr. Jay,

I’ve been more partial to Pork and Beef ever since I saw Superbad.

Icarus January 15, 2009 at 2:59 pm

OD2K,

Are you still drawing all those pictures like when you were 9?

drjay January 15, 2009 at 3:03 pm

o.k. mclovin’

umustbekidding January 15, 2009 at 3:27 pm

Isn’t all that information already out there? Their driver’s license tells their race and sex, and the ticket would tell the reason for the stop. This is just a way to stir up racial tension in the community. Brooks is just putting it in his constituent’s head that white cops are bad.

umustbekidding January 15, 2009 at 3:29 pm

Daniel, Will you be my friend too?

Tea Party January 15, 2009 at 3:30 pm

(Wife brings me black-eyed peas over jasmine rice, home grown collards on the side)

Rep. Brooks Bill is the work of an empty suit Pander Bear, as is much of the DeKalb Delegation.

I am going to be more disagreeable and earn me a by-durn name of derision. Just not to said wife…she does not require Icarus’s rigorous of a standard for such names…

Tinkerhell January 15, 2009 at 3:33 pm

And some of you folks complained about possible gun legislation this session… This is what we get from some of these people on the hill. Nice. What an a$$hat.

BR = S.S.D.D.

Icarus January 15, 2009 at 3:37 pm

Tea Party,

Keep it up. Just keep it up.

Tea Party January 15, 2009 at 4:00 pm

I was once stopped outside of Statesboro, GA by the Drug Interdiction Task force trained by the Feds because:

Latin looking, (Hey, I’m 1/2 Italian)
Late model vehicle, (Hey, I make some dough)
Driving cautiously, (Hey, I drive like ‘granny’)
Several adults in car, (Hey, I had clients with me!)
Casually attired. (Hey, I changed after work.)

I know these criteria as the AJC coincidentally ran a story on how the Feds were training local PD’s to ‘profile drug runners’ along the I95 corridor the following week. This was in 1985 or so.

Other than the Officers being perturbed that I wasn’t their perp, the incident ended. Why did it end? I am white, was not in violation of any laws, and I was polite.

In 1946, a rather-be-forgotten horror occurred in Walton County, the Moore’s Ford lynching. Rogue109′s ‘clowns’ are the GABEO (Georgia Association of Black Elected Officials) who, among other things, seem to spend a lot of time trying to bring those ‘perps’ to justice.

This Bill is pandering plain and simple, but not for a moment should anyone ever forget the rawness of a time less than one generation ago. That most of us cannot imagine being profiled, is no reason to believe that it doesn’t lead to racial tensions.

Most officers, privately, would agree, they profile who is committing crime. In other words, if white folks were committing more crimes, we’d be profiled too…

If I was a black man in Statesboro that nite, well, the outcome may have been different.

Addenda on 1946:

“We just think there needs to be more of a concerted effort on the part of prosecutors to move forward with the information that’s already been uncovered,” said state Rep. Tyrone Brooks (D-Atlanta), GABEO president,referring to investigations conducted by the FBI and GBI. “Why federal andlocal prosecutors have not moved forward is a big puzzle to us.”

Two African-American couples, George and Mae Murray Dorsey and Dorothy and Roger Malcom, were slaughtered by a lynch mob of unmasked white men at the Moore’s Ford bridge in July 1946.

GABEO members visited the site for a memorial service and educational forum as part of their annual fall conference. In attendance were GABEO attorneys who had seen the police reports and thought there was enough evidence to indict suspects in the lynching.

“There’s a feeling among the black community in Walton County and beyond that there’s no real desire to prosecute those who were involved in the horrible, horrible tragedy,” Brooks said.

Former Gov. Roy Barnes ordered the case reopened three years ago at Brooks’ request. Brooks attended briefings on the case with Barnes and currently has written reports of investigations done by the FBI and GBI from 1946 through the present.

“There’s a great deal of bewilderment as to how something like this could occur. All these years, the GBI and FBI and all of these other law enforcement agencies have been working and no one has been charged,” Brooks said.

GABEO, an affiliate of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference,presented its fall conference Oct. 29-31 in Athens. GABEO is based in Atlanta.

umustbekidding January 15, 2009 at 4:12 pm

How do people move forward when Brooks, Jessie, and many other black “leaders” are always looking back?
Things are going pretty good as far as racism goes but people like Brooks have to stir the pot to prop themselves up. This does not help anyone is his district, it just causes hate.

Tea Party January 15, 2009 at 4:16 pm

Hate is a function either ignorance or stupidity. Ignorance can be resolved, while stupidity lacks resolution.

jenny January 15, 2009 at 11:44 pm

What’s depressing in the south is that ethnic equality has to be foisted upon us by law, rather than through the good will of the community. There’s much left to be desired within Georgia in terms of equal treatment for blacks as for whites. One of my colleagues deals with huge injustices towards the black population within the judicial system all around the state.

Are new laws the answer? I think better press coverage of the abuses going on would be very helpful in eradicating injustice. This assumes you are reaching a populace who is willing to get involved to exact justice. Maybe I shouldn’t be so optimistic, since we lead the nation for late term abortion, and it’s a good day if one person is outside an abortion mill offering help to the mother. Yeah, we generally stand silent unless someone wants a law to assuage the problem. I get a whole hell of a lot of responses if I want to end abortion with a law. But if I just talk about the sorrow of 70,000 women and children damaged or killed through abortion every year, most people phase out.

That wasn’t exactly threadjacking, was it, Icarus? Please respond in bold, capital type with you know what at the end. :-)

Bill Simon January 16, 2009 at 12:00 am

“Hate is a function either ignorance or stupidity”

No, “hate” is a function of hating…with either good reason or illogical/bad reasons as to why. But, it is not strictly due to one of your two reasons.

Bill Simon January 16, 2009 at 12:03 am

JENNY!

JENNY!

JENNY!

An INTJ should not TJACK!

Kellie January 16, 2009 at 6:29 am

Can someone move Jenny’s 2nd paragraph over to her abortion thread? ;-)

Now about your first paragraph, there are still problems every where but it so much better than it was. Look around, there are interracial couples everywhere. I don’t think acceptance is being “foisted upon us by law”. All though it started that way, it is time to stop with all the divisive laws.
Culturally we are different. That doesn’t make us racist. I have black friends who were raised similar to me and we get along great. That wasn’t forced on me. I am friends with them do to common interest and goals.
I grew up in Stone Mountain which used to me known for real racial hatred. My high school only had a dozen black students in the 80’s but they were treated well. We just had our 20 year reunion and my few black classmates came. They knew they were not only welcome but loved. Also one of my sisters married a black man. This all coming from a city that was full of tension in the 60’s.
I believe it is time for people like Brooks to stop trying to highjack progress. He should be working in his community to build people up, not by tearing others down but by promoting family, education and self reliance.

Tea Party January 16, 2009 at 8:55 am

I think we can safely assert racial prejudice is intrinsically wrong and abortion is an abomination. Neither issue will be adequately addressed at law.

Change = PARENTAL, not public education

Young lovers aren’t reading this, nor are those afflicted by racial hatred.

Kellie January 16, 2009 at 9:02 am

Don’t forget racism is a two way street.

jenny January 16, 2009 at 5:02 pm

Bill,

My apologies. Shall do my part to uphold the reputation of the INTJ.

Well, I guess one can say on the positive, it’s a great picture of Tyrone.

:-)

Icarus January 16, 2009 at 8:08 pm

Tyrone is a major speed trap. Is that where that picture was taken? Hard to tell with the close crop.

And apparently, Perry McGuire and Mike Sheffield are still running for something there, based on my trip to Peachtree City earlier this week.

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