Georgia’s dumbest candidate speaks

by Chris on January 8, 2009

And panders to the gun-nuts………

A Statement from Commissioner John Oxendine:

Like many Georgians who support the Second Amendment, I was disappointed Casey Cagle all but abandoned his support for the Second Amendment during his annual pre-Session press conference.

Casey Cagle was emphatic that pro-Second Amendment legislation sponsored by State Senator Mitch Seabaugh, which would allow law abiding Georgians to expand the areas they can legally carry their concealed weapon, would be dead on arrival in a Casey Cagle Senate.

Casey Cagle stated he has “no appetite for it” and Georgians “should be content with where we are.”

Someone ought to teach him to read, because at no time did Casey Cagle say the bill would be “dead on arrival”. Lt. Governor Cagle, like about the 98% of Georgians who spend more money on where they live then on the number of guns the own, believes there are higher priorities for the General Assembly to address than if you can bring your shotgun to church.

Proving once more, he is as dumb as an Ox.

{ 68 comments }

North Ga Indy January 8, 2009 at 1:53 pm

That was a very smart comment that he made. With that in mind, Ox will win 54%-46% over Cagle.

boyreporter January 8, 2009 at 1:56 pm

Who said 54% of Georgians were redneck gun-worshipping scaredy-cat knuckledraggers? It’s higher than that.

North Ga Indy January 8, 2009 at 1:57 pm

Oxendine is just bursting with intellegence. He’s so smart I could hug him.

Icarus January 8, 2009 at 2:02 pm

“Oxendine is just bursting with intellegence. He’s so smart I could hug him.”

Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Icarus January 8, 2009 at 2:12 pm

As for Ox, Sheppie asked me what my problem with Ox was a while back. While there are many contributing factors, they can mostly be summed up with my thoughts on the above press release.

Our party has had enough of “leaders” who choose their path to success as one who panders to the lowest common denominators. An effort to stir up gun lovers on the pretense that someone is trying to take away our rights is disingenuous, intellectually void, and lacks any solution to real, actual issues.

I want our future leaders to be able to solve real problems. In order to do so, they must be able to first recognize real problems, and then speak to the public about them, rather than pandering to “the base”.

A man that wants to use military force to shorten gas lines, or decides to tell his constituents that their rights are in danger if we don’t rearrange more gun carry deck chairs, lacks the judgment I expect from our next governor.

Daniel N. Adams January 8, 2009 at 2:14 pm

Casey Cagle stated he has “no appetite for it” and Georgians “should be content with where we are.”

Chris,
What about the second part of that statement… did CC say that. If he did, then add me to your “gun-nuts” list.

Boy-R-tard,
It has nothing to do with fear and everything to do with self-responsibility. I also own plumbing, carpentry and automotive tools as well. I’m sure you don’t understand but it’s called being prepared and self reliant.
Now lift your legs so the government can change and wipe you.

Jeff Emanuel January 8, 2009 at 2:20 pm

Dude. This is a state that’s had Cynthia McKinney as a candidate and a representative.

umustbekidding January 8, 2009 at 2:21 pm

Daniel

Boy doesn’t own any of those things, they’re much too manly for him. ;-)

Icarus January 8, 2009 at 2:23 pm

Jeff,

We set our standards pretty high, eh?

redrock January 8, 2009 at 2:28 pm

Daniel,
I’m with you on 100% gun rights. But all I remember from last session is it being eaten up by gun debate. Georgia has great gun laws….we’re probably ok for taking a year off from it.

I might be crazy but I’m kinda glad Lt. Governor Cagle is working on more important issues this sesssion. Lord knows we have enough garbage to fix.

AND

“I want our future leaders to be able to solve real problems. In order to do so, they must be able to first recognize real problems, and then speak to the public about them, rather than pandering to “the base”.”

I’m with Icarus on that.

Mountain Republican January 8, 2009 at 2:35 pm

As usual, Chris is right. Personally, I’m a HUGE 2nd amendment person. While pandering to get a vote, Oxendine forgot to ask the NRA their position on the bill.

While Casey leads during an economic crisis and focuses on the economy and jobs, the Ox is still in the pasture chewing his cud.

boyreporter January 8, 2009 at 2:46 pm

Danny and Umust: Methinks thou protests too much. Be prepared…look for a weapon to make you a man…people are out there unlike you, and they’re scary! Mommie!!!!!

North Ga Indy January 8, 2009 at 2:56 pm

Boyretarted, me thinks you should quit acting like chickens*it.

umustbekidding January 8, 2009 at 3:01 pm

boy – I’m sure not scared of wimps like you. I’ll stay out of you sexual preferences and you stay out of the 2nd amendment right.

“It behooves every man who values liberty of conscience for himself, to resist invasions of it in the case of others: or their case may, by change of circumstances, become his own.”
Thomas Jefferson

Icarus January 8, 2009 at 3:03 pm

Magic Jeff,

We’ve covered this once today. No matter how much BR deserves it, clean it up.

North Ga Indy January 8, 2009 at 3:04 pm

Umust, that above comment is one reason why I like you here.

North Ga Indy January 8, 2009 at 3:05 pm

Sorry Icky.

debbie0040 January 8, 2009 at 3:07 pm

Daniel N. Adams 01.08.09 at 2:14 pm

Casey Cagle stated he has “no appetite for it” and Georgians “should be content with where we are.”

Cagle did say that. Add me to the guns nuts list as well.. Gun control is being able to hit your target…

debbie0040 January 8, 2009 at 3:09 pm

Mountain Republican 01.08.09 at 2:35 pm

As usual, Chris is right. Personally, I’m a HUGE 2nd amendment person. While pandering to get a vote, Oxendine forgot to ask the NRA their position on the bill.

MR, please provide a link or email that shows the NRA opposes that bill. I would love to see it.

debbie0040 January 8, 2009 at 3:24 pm

http://www.ajc.com/search/content/metro/stories/2009/01/06/guns.html

Cagle draws line on weapons bills
By Aaron Gould Sheinin

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Tuesday, January 06, 2009

Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle on Monday shot down plans one lawmaker has to expand the places gun owners in Georgia may legally carry concealed weapons.

Cagle, speaking with reporters at his Capitol office, said he had “no appetite” to revisit the concealed carry law. Sen. Mitch Seabaugh (R-Sharpsburg) has been considering a bill that would expand the places where guns would be allowed. The current law bans weapons at places the public gathers, a description that includes churches and college campuses.

Seabaugh’s state study committee has been considering a proposal to drop the ban on some of those locations.

Seabaugh acknowledged that Cagle has the “right and authority to be able to dictate a lot of the agenda that goes on in the Senate,” but said the lieutenant governor has always respected each senator’s right to pursue specific issues.

“I look forward to being able to sit down and talk about those with the lieutenant governor,” Seabaugh said.

Cagle was emphatic in his opposition Monday.

“Let me be clear,” he said, adding that the issue was dealt with last year. “People should be content with where we are.”

Only two bills dealing with firearms have been filed so far for the 2009 legislative session, which begins Monday. One would end the requirement that concealed weapons be kept in a holster. The other, sponsored by Sen. Ronald Ramsey (D-Lithonia), would require all handgun ammunition to be individually coded for identification.

The holster bill is sponsored by Sen. John Douglas (R-Social Circle). Douglas said Monday that he hopes Cagle’s concerns do not include his proposal.

“I haven’t talked to him directly about it,” Douglas said. “I feel like it’s a pretty innocuous bill that shouldn’t cause a great deal of controversy.”

John Konop January 8, 2009 at 3:26 pm

I have met and like Karen, Casey and John. At then end of the day they agree on many more things than they disagree.

I would hope all sides could show some class in this race. We have major problems facing our country and the State of Georgia. We need adults talking about real solutions, not made up issues to avoid the real problems.

Bill Simon January 8, 2009 at 3:30 pm

Icarus,

If, as you say No matter how much BR deserves it, clean it up, shouldn’t you have the good sense and smack BR if he “deserves it?”

Or, do you feel like PP should become exactly like our public schools where no one is allowed to b-slap anyone else, even though they really, really, REALLY deserve it?

Icarus January 8, 2009 at 3:40 pm

Bill,

There are many, many ways to appropriately handle an insult without having to resort to the lowest common denominator of the English language. Magic Jeff needs to learn this before he is allowed certain liberties that you, as a legacy, have grown accustomed to.

38-3

TPNoGa January 8, 2009 at 3:52 pm

49-10

J/S

Icarus January 8, 2009 at 3:53 pm

TP,

It’s going to take everything I have to try and stay loyal to the SEC cause tonight.

You’re not helping.

TPNoGa January 8, 2009 at 3:55 pm

Sorry.

Would it help if I said I pulled for the Dawgs against those tax lovin’ yankees?

24-12

Better?

drjay January 8, 2009 at 3:57 pm

screw that sec loyalty stuff–i’d cheer for a team of lawyers over the stupid gators!!!

GOPeach January 8, 2009 at 3:58 pm

I think bringing a shotgun to church is a good idea. Thanks Ox!
You boyz ever heard of a shotgun wedding?

Icarus January 8, 2009 at 3:58 pm

There are probably teams outside the SEC that I could pull for over the Gators.

OK isn’t one of them.

And TP,

Yes.

debbie0040 January 8, 2009 at 5:30 pm

I like both Oklahoma and Florida. Since Oklahoma is the underdog, I will pull for them.

John Konop 01.08.09 at 3:26 pm

I have met and like Karen, Casey and John. At then end of the day they agree on many more things than they disagree.

I agree with that statement. There will not be a dime’s worth of difference politically in the GOP Gubernatorial candidates. They are all conservatives.

The difference will be in governing style and personality. You have to decide who you like best and which governing style you like best.

Steve Perkins January 8, 2009 at 5:46 pm

Icarus: I wish you would run for office.

Danny: I’m on the high-end of “Libertarian credentials” for this blog, and I have to respectfully disagree with you. The General Assembly took a step too far already last session when they nearly put gun rights over PROPERTY rights (i.e. the parking lot bill), a notion I can’t support. At this point, gun-carry laws are turning into sex offender laws… something that the worst of Georgia politicians use to out-do each other on pandering, without pausing for any rational thought at all. Let’s focus on infrastructure and water supply issues this session… I’m willing to hold off discussion on when I can bring my Glock 17 to church. Just a matter of priorities.

Icarus: I take that back… elected office would probably corrupt and ruin you. Just go into radio when Boortz mercifully retires.

oldcapitolguy January 8, 2009 at 6:01 pm

So, unless we address guns this year–this very session–the 2nd amendment is under attack in Georgia? Just don’t see it that way. We’re okay and this is a fabricated “emergency”.

I can see the lead on the ATL news–as the Dems in DC are actually putting the economy at the forefront, us GOP’ers in Georgia are now in day 4 of discussion on the Guns in Churches bill . We’ll just get to the budget shortfall, infrastructure, transportation, and water later on.

As a lifelong republican, i find that scenario damaging.

boyreporter January 8, 2009 at 6:10 pm

Republican/conservative/delusional gun nuts and your “female” pals: You are so entertaining, in a “What must they be thinking?” sort of way. What color is the sky in your world? Relax. No, don’t. The other side NEEDS your hysteria, and you never disappoint. Don’t you get it?: You are the wimps, not the ones who don’t feel the need for an “equalizer,” because we don’t feel unequal. And all your comments about manliness: what would you know about it? Ah, this is great, time-wasting entertainment, though a little juvenile. Thanks, Erick. You should market a PP parlor game, with Rogue as the “Inspector” with the tough name who unfortunately never solves a crime.

North Ga Indy January 8, 2009 at 6:12 pm

Oh look, Boyretarted(aka chickens*it) is at his silly little games again.

boyreporter January 8, 2009 at 6:26 pm

North Ga Windy: You’re on here so much, your toy helicopter’s battery must be low. Is there nothing on TV? And you are probably — probably — old enough now to graduate from chickens*it to something really naughty. Ask GOPeach or Jenny for some words to use, but don’t giggle too loud or your mother might hear.

North Ga Indy January 8, 2009 at 6:32 pm

BTW Boyretarted, does your male partner know that you comment here. Don’t you have things to do?

albert January 8, 2009 at 7:03 pm

Oxendine is an IDIOT, pure and simple.

North Ga Indy January 8, 2009 at 7:07 pm

Anybody who does not like Oxendine is an IDIOT, pure and simple.

North Ga Indy January 8, 2009 at 7:13 pm

Anybody who does not like the FairTax are also IDIOTS, pure and simple.

Making Sense January 8, 2009 at 7:14 pm

I’m not sure that we have a “gun problem” in Georgia… I know that we have almost a $2.5 billion budget shortfall, lagging transportation infastructure, and an education system that seems to be stuck at the bottom of the nation – but I’m not sure if we have a gun problem…

Now how about the dramatic increases in insurance premiums???

Bill Simon January 8, 2009 at 7:28 pm

Anyone from North Georgia who talks out of his a-hole on PP and posted on 1/8/2009 at 7:13 pm is an IDIOT, pure and simple.

John Konop January 8, 2009 at 7:29 pm

FYI

……Americans for Fair Taxation offers the following plain-language interpretation of H.R. 25:

Americans for Fair Taxation: A 23-percent (of the tax-inclusive sales price) sales tax is imposed on all retail sales for personal consumption of new goods and services.

It is the parenthetical that is important, for it hides the real truth of the tax rate.

First consider the way in which sales tax is normally figured. A consumer good that carries a $100 price tag might be subject to a 5 percent sales tax. That means that the final bill for the item is $105. The 5 percent figure is the amount of tax that is charged on the original purchase price. But now suppose that instead of pricing the item at $100, the shop owner simply priced the item at $105, then sent $5 directly to the state. The $105 price would be a tax-inclusive sales price. But $5 is just 4.8 percent of $105. That 4.8 percent number, however, is relatively meaningless. You are still paying exactly the same 5 percent tax on the item.

The 23 percent number in H.R. 25 is the equivalent of the 4.8 percent in the previous example. To calculate the real rate of the sales tax, we have to determine the original purchase price of an item. We can begin with the same $100 item, keeping in mind that a price tag that reads $100 has sales tax already built in. If our tax rate is 23 percent of the tax-inclusive sales price, then of the $100 final price, $23 of those dollars will be for taxes, meaning that the original pre-tax price of the item is $77. To get $23 in taxes on a $77 item, one must impose a 30 percent tax. In other words, a 23 percent sales tax on the tax-inclusive sales price is equivalent to a 30 percent tax on the actual price of the item.

FairTax proponents object to the 30 percent number, claiming that critics use the larger number to frighten people. Americans for Fair Taxation claims that it uses the tax-inclusive number to make it easier to compare the FairTax to the income tax that it will replace (since most of us think of income tax rates on an inclusive basis). But we are not accustomed to thinking of sales taxes inclusively. The result is that many FairTax supporters (about 15 percent of those who wrote to us, for example) do not understand that the 23 percent figure is tax inclusive.

Our analysis of the FairTax used a figure of 34 percent as the basic exclusive tax rate. One e-mailer complained that our number was at least 10 percentage points “higher than [the FairTax] is” because we calculated it as an addition to retail prices. But our 34 percent number is not 10 percentage points higher than the legislation. A 34 percent exclusive number is equivalent to a 25 percent tax inclusive rate – only 2 percentage points higher than the FairTax bill. We think that, intentional or not, the use of the tax-inclusive 23 percent rate has misled a lot of FairTax proponents…….

http://www.factcheck.org/taxes/unspinning_the_fairtax.html

North Ga Indy January 8, 2009 at 7:32 pm

Anyone whose name is Bill Simon who talks out of his hind quarters on Peach Pundit and posted on 1/8/2009 at 7:28 pm is an IDIOT, pure and simple.

Bill Simon January 8, 2009 at 7:35 pm

Indy,

TRY to be original once in awhile. I know it’s tough, but just try.

Icarus January 8, 2009 at 8:03 pm

Steve, thanks, I think.

Maybe one day I will.

Or maybe I have.

Or maybe both.

But probably not.

Do you really think I could survive a Republican primary in this state with my views? or bluntness? or my inability to suffer fools gladly?

It’s probably best I just support the candidates that seem to actually want to solve some things, and blast the ones that adopt the PanderFirst! campaing strategies.

Game Fan January 8, 2009 at 8:27 pm

I would support Icarus for public office because I’m into cartoons. And Mickey Mouse could do a better job than some of these career politicians/insiders/crooks and liars.

North Ga Indy January 8, 2009 at 8:32 pm

If I run for office, I’d win with 75%.

boyreporter January 8, 2009 at 8:45 pm

NorthGagIndy: Stop it! You’re making Bill Simon seem reasonable.

redrock January 8, 2009 at 9:19 pm

North Ga Indy 01.08.09 at 7:07 pm
“Anybody who does not like Oxendine is an IDIOT, pure and simple.”

I think North Ga Indy is John Oxendine.

North Ga Indy January 8, 2009 at 9:22 pm

I think North Ga Indy is John Oxendine.

No I’m not. I hold no public office, he does. I am 26, he is in his forties or fifties.

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