Lordy, TP, I thought you were the optimist here. If I can ever finish my treatise on Icaronomics, we might have to talk you of a ledge.

That’s false, the Nazi’s were techincally Pro-Life, especially if a woman were carrying an Aryan baby. Did they force Jews, Gypsies, Slavs, etc. to abort fetuses? Perhaps, but why bother when a bullet to the back of the head or some Zyclon B would be cheaper, quicker, and more efficient.

Bill, don’t forget about boycotting GM, which owns Opel, which in turn was manufacturing some pretty damned good tanks during WW2, except not for us

What I do find remarkable is that so many GOP base members and PP regulars are as angry or angrier about the last eight years as are Dems. Mssrs. Konop and Day hit the highpoints as to why any thinking American ought to be outraged.

2009 will be a hugely challenging year economically. Every financial metric that should be going up is down and every metric that should be down is up, at historical levels. Top execs are talking about a 3Q09 early recovery, but nobody has any real idea, we are making economic history right now.

If the Cheney theory of ‘We must be doing OK, since nobody blew up anything in the last eight years’ holds true perhaps we may see an end to this cycle by 2009-10. Our enemies would love nothing more than to start a US civil war, spiralling our economic engines into chaos.

Personally, I think this recession is the ‘first wave’ resulting from the economic stressors we have heaped upon the system for decades. Once the SSI, and Medicare/caid entitlements, can I say that word(?), kick in (2012) I believe we will see the second wave.

Maybe Cheney, Wolfowitz, and the Merry Band of Neo-Cons, will have the last laugh, the theory of bringing the system down to rebuild it may indeed play out.

We can only do our best, speak our minds, and vote our conscience.

So was the concept of interstate highways, Jenny (See Autobahn). Make sure you AVOID driving on the interstate to navigate yourself around this city.

Don’t buy a VW Beetle either…another item developed as a result of the Nazi regime.

Are we such cowards that 9/11 justifies the insanity of all the years that have followed?

Fear is what dominates public opinion. Last year at the Cobb County Convention, some clear thinking person proposed that we banish all unConstitutional Departments and programs. Another person stood and said,” Then who will take care of those things? Who will take care of us?” and he was supported by the majority.

Big A to whomever thought to put fluoride in our water. It has completely knocked the umph out of this nation. (Another idea that started in Nazi Germany concentration camps…in addition to the first abortion clinic opening there). Or at least I’d like to blame the water. How else do you explain millions of Americans, the melting pot of the world, the survivors, the achievers, all of whom now seem to lack any sort of male anatomy attributed to an ability to be brave, make tough decisions and lead.

Just out of curiosity, name at least 4 things that were “good” in America before and are “not good” now can be tracked back to the Bush/Cheney Administration.

Dick Cheney has destroyed America, the Constitution, and has been on a crusade to destroy everything that is good in America.

Bush /Cheney had so many policy mistakes it is hard to list them all.

Education is a disaster with NCLB leaving students behind at tax payer expense

Energy is a disaster with Energy bill and Farm bill that pays farmers to create bio fuels that increase food prices and create no efficiencies.

Deficits based on financing tax cuts and out of control spending bills that created a 11 trillion dollar national debt

A banking policy that put tax payers on the hook for out of control lending policy

Trade policy that we pay farmers not to grow food and import products from slave labor countries like China that created out of control trade deficits

Immigration policy based on looking the other way that drove wages down and thrust social service cost on tax payers.

Heath care policy that made the problem worse via Drug Prescription bill and immigration policy that drove up social service cost on tax payers with no controls

Foreign policy based on going alone, policemen of the world, no end in sight spending with no controls and chasing our tail strategy.

Way to go Brownie or is it Cheney?

For almost eight long years after 9/11/2001, we were not attacked at home.

What do you call the anthrax attacks? Why do you have to qualify your statement with “at home”? What about the thousands of American soldiers killed and the tens of thousands injured? What about the overall rise of terrorist attacks throughout the world since 9/11? The 9/11 attack served its purpose. It goaded us into two costly invasions in the middle east that bled our finances and encouraged radical Islam throughout the world. Cheney did exactly what Bin Laden wanted him to do.

Your defense of torture is just sick. Do you honestly think that by imitating the Russian gulags and the Japanese POW camps is a sane, rational way to behave? After WWII we executed Japanese and Germans for using these techniques on U.S. soldiers.

people forget how little we knew about Al Qaeda

Another false statement. Do you forget Clinton’s attacks in Sudan and Afghanistan? What about the security briefing right before 9/11? We helped create Al Qaeda to fight the Russians. We had excellent intel on Al Qaeda. Have you forgotten how we quickly targeted Al Qaeda bases in Afghanistan and shattered the Taliban? The information obtained from KSM does not seem to have been much use, since we didn’t capture Bin Laden, and we invaded a country that didn’t have Al Qaeda.

The problem is that we are using an enthymeme while completely ignoring everything in the parentheses.

*We haven’t been attacked again.
( )
The parentheses imply all the unstated arguments and implications that must be true in order for us to now reach the conclusion:

*Therefore Bush clearly did what was right for our nation.

You say, because we had Hard Nose™ and Co. sitting in the Senate President’s chair, we didn’t get attacked. And only because of Them™ we were safe.

OK.

So that means there is no God. Because Revelations did not happened. The fact something has not happened is proof enough to prove any point.

Because they lied and tortured, we never got attacked.

That is his justification, after all of this.

It makes perfect sense. Terrorism is not about continuous minor attacks, randomly, on say..gas stations, or, dams, or power stations, or railroad tracks… terrorism is about one big grand statement, and magically sitting back and allowing that one attack to to the terror of 300.

[insert boogy man label here] didn’t have to do any more terror attacks to damage our country and its freedom. It had help from the inside.

What. A. Load.

Eric’s a Juke Box Hero™ because he’s got stars in his eyes.

If “we” refers to the US government, THE ABOVE STATEMENT IS A COMPLETE FALSEHOOD AND DISTORTION OF THE FACTS. Bush, Cheney and Rice ignored warnings about the terrorist threat posed by al qaeda.

On January 25th 2001, five days after Bush took office, Richard Clarke sent Condi Rice a memo detailing the significant threat posed by al qaeda. He proposed that the anti-terrorist al qaeda efforts be stepped up. He attached the previous administration’s recently revised strategy for eliminating al qaeda threats which included military, covert, diplomatic, and economic actions. He was alerting the new administration, seeking stepped up resources and asking for further review of the problem by the new NSC andcabinet. He didn’t get that meeting until September 4th, 2001.

On July 10th 2001, two months before the September 11 attacks, George Tenet reviewed evidence of increased communication activities and other intelligence information. The evidence lead the CIA to the conclusion that an attack on the US was forthcoming from al Qaeda. Tennet called for an immediate meeting with Rice and then called for immediate action against Osama Bin Laden. Rice did not act.

For the entire month of August 2001, President Bush was on vacation at his ranch. The CIA director did not see him or talk to him for the entire month.

The Presidential Daily Brief is a written report prepared by the CIA. Usually it is 1 0r 2 paragaphs long. On August 6th, it was a page and a half. The title of the report was “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US.” The briefing included this statement: FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activites in this country that are consistent with preparations for hijackings or other kinds of attacks including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.”

There are dozens of examples that prove that the Bush administration ignored warnings, not deliberately to cause harm, but never-the-less they failed to recognize the severity of the threat. There was an entire section in the CIA dedicated to tracking Osama Bin Laden prior to 2001. It was clear the Bin Laden was a threat and the US government knew it, but could not get the attention of Bush, Cheney and Rice.

Were you talking about her? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAnvXXz2rbU

We have Erick the RedState LAPDOG

Hey Erick, when Dick commanded “fetch”, how did his slippers taste?

When he said “roll over” how did…….uh, nevermind.