Let me ask you Republicans this question

My impression is that the state GOP is not as organized as it was in 2000 – 2006.

I just have the impression that much of the ground game is AWOL and it’s not a Bush thing because it seemed much more present in 2006. Maybe that’s just because I’m in Bibb County, but it seems to be missing.

Thoughts?

47 comments

  1. MiddleGeorgiaVoter says:

    I blame Glenn Richardson. I think he has divided the Georgia Republican party. Yes men like Allen Freeman who will hurt their own areas just to please Glenn and voters see this.

    Educated voters are not going to vote for someone that takes money away from their district. (I use Freeman as an examble because I think he will be a casualty of this election and because he is in this area-Bibb Co.).

  2. Chris says:

    I don’t think this has to do with the General Assembly.

    I think conservatives (of both stripes, fiscal and social) are pretty disenchanted.

  3. steelfist says:

    Yes, completely unorganized. They had a great model in 2006. And this year nothing, absolutely nothing. They chair and staff have no idea what they are doing.

  4. Here’s what I told the AJC just the other day:

    Buzz Brockway, a conservative blogger and former Gwinnett County GOP chairman, said he sees great energy among McCain’s team in Gwinnett.

    “They’re going to door to door, knocking on doors, putting yard signs out,” Brockway said. “They’re at every festival and fair that will let them in.”

    I can only speak about what I’ve seen and heard. I don’t know what’s going on in other parts of the State.

  5. bowersville says:

    Yes very unorganized, didn’t you fluff up that crap in the primary for Senate 50, you whine-o- crat?

  6. IndyInjun says:

    Good.

    Maybe folks started looking at their principles and decided that a GOP that ignores them is not worth supporting.

    That principles are road kill by the party’s elected officials is undeniable.

    I ran a copy of the county GOP platform to the last county meeting and started reading the quiding principles, when the biggest (literally) Republican there asked WHERE I got THOSE statements from.

    He was a former chairman.

    Enough said.

    The only folks left in the GOP have no better thought processes than a 4th grade black voting for Obama because of his race.

    The reasons folks supported the GOP are gone.

    Looking forward to Saxby’s next treachery somehow fails to excite the people.

  7. Doug Deal says:

    Erick,

    Bibb is a bad place to judge anything about the Republican Party. The county organization is full of too many people who do nothing but say why x or y can’t be done and how no one can ever win.

    You build a party by first believing that you can win, you don’t win first and then believe in it. The party doesn’t acknowledge emails, return phone calls, canvass or do anything unless it is a few weeks before the election. Until the old guard is removed and a younger, more energetic crowd joins the party who aren’t caught up in the old way of doing business, the Bibb party will go nowhere.

    As for the rest of the country, I hope it is not as bad, but with the leaders of the party being who they are, it would not surprise me.

  8. Chris says:

    You build a party by first believing that you can win,

    And this is why so many members of the LP do drugs.

  9. IndyInjun says:

    “You build a party by first believing that you can win” and you destroy a party believing you can win, no matter how great the outrages committed.”

  10. jsm says:

    I noticed that we in Hall County haven’t seen or heard anything from a 72-hour task force this year.

    I think since Georgia Republicans are pretty conservative, many have not been as eager to work for the candidates this year due the more moderate stances of McCain and Chambliss. Also, McCain’s financial disadvantage has kept national money from flowing to Georgia.

    On the other hand, Hall County has had a great ground game this cycle, but it has been due to some energetic local people getting involved and doing a fantastic job for our candidates.

    Join us this Monday evening, Oct. 27th, at the Gainesville Civic Center for our American Freedom Rally. Hear Congressman Deal, Saxby, State Reps. James Mills and Carl Rogers, and McCain’s fellow Hanoi Hilton survivor Col. Lee Ellis. 5-7pm. No charge. Everyone welcome.

  11. Ron2008 says:

    Well Fulton County’s GOP is very well organized. I volunteer several times a week and there are always at least 15 others there as well. They host several events a week. Their last big event is the 72 hour get out the vote push event on November 1st.

  12. Big Mack says:

    Erick,

    You need to remember that plans are organized at the state level and implemented locally. The Bibb county party lost the best county chairman in Georgia when Don Layfield passed away. I don’t know the present Bibb chairman but it things are not happening in Bibb that is who you need to talk to.

  13. While Bibb is a bit weak, I would not say it is all washed up by any means. We’ve got a lot of things going on. http://www.bibbrepublicanparty.com

    Our largest nemesis is the Telegraph. They basically called me a liar today, when I’ve documented virtually everything. I even called the County to confirm I wasn’t wrong. http://www.commissionerjoeallen.info

    Fighting this kind of propaganda is difficult.

    Nov. 2nd is going to be a phenomenal event. Last night we had a blast at a gotv party. 300 folks attended and were entertained by the Grapevine.

    Don’t count us out yet. The fat lady ain’t sung.

  14. Bill Simon says:

    “You Republicans.”

    I guess Erick doesn’t consider himself a “Republican” anymore.

    And this, after kissing the Bush Administraton’s rearend for so many years.

  15. sonofliberty says:

    I’m with Middle Georgia on this one……Richardson has torn the Georgia Republican Party apart…..His only agenda…..is himself……we can only hope that State House Republicans have the courage and backbone to do what Republicans in Washington WISH…they had done……put the People ahead of their blind allegiance to other politicians….before its too late….Two more years of Richardson as Speaker…. and the Georgia GOP ….can kiss their backsides……goodbye.

  16. Muscadine says:

    sonofliberty you are very patriotic but I ain’t seen nothin’ out of state republicans that makes me think they are any different than the drones in Washington. Maybe a wakeup call on Nov. 4th will do the trick. If the GOP doesn’t clean its own House, the Dems will in 2010.

  17. John Konop says:

    The reason many conservatives have los faith is best represented with this article in the Washington Times. Also the GOP cannot be a party of social conservatives only. I lean toward social conservative policy, but we must be tolerant of others and not be so judgmental.

    Big government gets bigger

    WashingtonTimes-Under Bush, the cost of protection, war and economic collapse reach historic levels

    BIG GOVERNMENT SERIES: First of three parts

    George W. Bush rode into Washington almost eight years ago astride the horse of smaller government. He will leave it this winter having overseen the biggest federal budget expansion since Franklin Delano Roosevelt seven decades ago.

    Not since World War II, when the nation mobilized to fight a global war against fascism and recover from the Great Depression, has government spending played as large a role in the economy as it does today.

    This time, it is a rapid mobilization against another global enemy — Islamist terrorism — that lies behind much of the growth. But rising spending on discretionary domestic programs has also played its part.

    http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/19/big-government-gets-bigger/

    1. Luke 6:37-42 [37] “Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. [38] Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.” [39] He also told them this parable: “Can a blind man lead a blind man? Will they not both fall into a pit? [40] A student is not above his teacher, but everyone who is fully trained will be like his teacher. [41] “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? [42] How can you say to your brother, `Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

    “What points does the Parable Don’t Judge, Lest You Be Judged make?”

    We should not be so busy criticizing others that we fail to see our own faults.

    We should be kind and forgiving, not harsh and judgmental.

    If we are generous with others, others will be generous with us. Also, God will be generous with us.

    “As you sow, so shall you reap.”

    “What goes around comes around.”

    “… forgive us our sins as we forgive those who sin against us …” If we forgive others, God will forgive us. If we refuse to forgive others, God will refuse to forgive us.

    “Does ‘Don’t Judge Lest You Be Judged’ mean we shouldn’t serve on juries, send people to prison, and so on?”

    No. This is not talking about criminal activities that are a threat to society. Nor is it talking about spiritual activities that are a threat to the church and society at large, such as teaching false doctrines. Paul clearly condemned specific people for false teachings. He rebuked Peter for Peter’s refusal to eat with Gentiles when the “head honchos” from Jerusalem visited. This is saying don’t judge a person’s eternal destiny, don’t nitpick, be kind, don’t be a hypocrite, and don’t hold grudges. Indeed, people who do those kinds of things hurt themselves in the long run because they develop a critical, divisive spirit that poisons their own relationships with others.

  18. Look, the only way to win is to fight! Politics is a blood sport and most folks have Attention Deficit Disorder. When I interviewed one of my key volunteers I explained, the value in this game is finishing what you start. Most folks get hyped, get involved and then drop out at the first sign of a struggle.

    Tell me where any lasting accomplishment was won on an easy venture? All lasting accomplishments take hard work and determination. The vast majority of people will give you a thousand reasons why you can’t succeed. You have the choice to listen to the naysayers or harness yourself to what you know and work it.

    Polls sway and allegiances shift, but you dare not quit or you will guarantee failure.

    I was raised on a farm. This I do know. If you have good seed, properly till the soil, fertilize and get necessary rain, you will have a good crop.

    Don’t quit!

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    I know this is way off topic. However, I’ll let the thought police decide whether this post should be removed.

    I’m in a tight tight race. We’ve run aggressively and the agenda is sound. I am in need of just a few hundred dollars to seal the deal. Any contribution would be enormously appreciated. You can donate online at http://www.MauriceAtkinson.com or you can download a donation form and mail it to me.

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  20. Aldous Huxley says:

    Glenn forced the 10th District GOP to spend somewhere between $1.5M and $2M on a race that did not need to take place. Broun is a conservative Republican, and Glenn pushed Fleming into running against him. That cost GOP almost $2 million. Glenn has made no public reparations, though Fleming did just host a fundraiser for Broun. O brave new GA House, with piss poor leadership in it!

  21. sonofliberty says:

    John…….your post is appreciated this Sunday morning…..the Teacher also said…..render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s….and unto God the things that are God’s………what that means to me today is that religious doctrine is separate and distinct from Georgia political activity……I agree that we should be tolerant of others who believe differently than we do…..and not so judgmental….but..agere sequitur esse…….your actions come out of your being…….dictates not only how we treat others ……but which candidate in our judgment deserves our vote …..come Election Day.

  22. Ga Values says:

    Friday I drove from Madison to our farm at Shell Bluff through Augusta, Saw no Saxby & only a few McCain signs. Came bacy through Wrens & Warrengton saw no Saxby & a few scattered McCain signs. There were many signs for local elections but none mentioned the national party. There is little or no entusism in the Morgan party most of us are REALLY MAD at Saxby. Hope he looses & Johnny figures out that he needs to start acting like a Republican not a Socialist.

  23. IndyInjun says:

    “Hope he looses & Johnny figures out that he needs to start acting like a Republican not a Socialist”

    If Saxby loses, a strong opponent will emerge in the GOP against Johnny.

    2008 will reinforce the message of 2006 – the GOP is done as a national party if it stands by officials who have no principles.

  24. joe says:

    GA Values,

    I spent the week in Glenville. When I drove back to Atlanta, I drove back roads. I saw a lot of local race signs, a smattering of McCain signs, no Obama, Chambliss, or Martin signs, but there were two Vernon Jones billboards.

  25. sonofliberty says:

    “2008 will reinforce the message of 2006-the GOP is done as a national party if it stands by officials who have no principles.”…. the GOP is done…. here in Georgia…. if it continues to stand by a Speaker who has no principles……the GOP cannot afford to wait until 2010…..Richardson must go……NOW……House Republicans have the power to begin the turn around…….do they have the courage and fortitude? ……THAT……is the question……

  26. albert says:

    sonofliberty, the answer to the last question is NO. They have no spine. Atlanta is filled with a bunch of used car salesmen who would rather pander to the whims of power as opposed to embracing conservative principles.

    The Dems have nothing to offer. Surely there are voices that would love to throw the bum out.

  27. Chris says:

    The Dems have nothing to offer.

    Yet. However, if the State GOP officials don’t get their act together and accomplish something worthwhile, they’ll eventually go the way of their national brethren.

  28. sonofliberty says:

    lemmings…….a small north american rodent with…. small brains, stout bodies and short legs……..known for traveling in one direction only and allowing no obstacle to stop them…..from following leadership…….into the sea

  29. sonofliberty says:

    Muscadine…..Im afraid the general public is unaware of the frat parties…..State House Republicans ….cognizant…… of the frat parties…..must tacitly approve …..or collectively suffer from cognitive dissonance…….

  30. GOPeach says:

    The STATE GOP is a whole NEW BREED – it seems to me. NEW faces that seem sharp but inexperienced. I would like to see the State Party go back and reach out to the INACTIVE Conservatives like Me! We know a few things that could kick things up a notch!

    Make new friends
    But keep the old
    One is silver
    The other gold

    Most of the GOLD people I know are
    burned out and need to be courted.

    Seems the young people are running
    things now. Oh well… It happens.

  31. Rick Day says:

    I blame Ron Paul. There are so many motivated Republicans who went by all the rules, to take back the party at the grass roots (precinct and delegate) levels.

    Time and again, the ‘leadership’ or as I call them, hacks, bent and broke the rules to keep Paul’s impact from shaking up the system.

    The old schoolers, who really didn’t like anyone in the Republican POTUS stable in 08, became disgruntled at the open rudeness and deceit by said ‘leadership’ to keep the Paul people from making an impact.

    Which is causing widespread ‘retirement’ from republican grass roots volunteerism to allow the Paulistas to quietly take the places of the former elders of the party.

    Oh , and you all ran out of hate legislation for the evangelicals to flock to. They got 401-k’s too, ya know.

    Sucks to be a bottom dweller, eh Republican apologists? You eat what you reap.

  32. rugby fan says:

    “Sucks to be a bottom dweller, eh Republican apologists? You eat what you reap.”

    What does that make Libertarian apologists?

    I kid because I love.

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