It Won!

by Erick on October 7, 2008

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When Michelle Bruce (pictured), a Georgia politician, ran for re-election last year did she mislead voters by allegedly failing to disclose that she used to be a Michael?

Yesterday, in a huge victory for Bruce and the transgender community, the Georgia Supreme Court ruled that she did not mislead voters by running for office as a woman. The court dismissed a suit filed by two of Bruce’s opponents — Georgia Fuller and Stan Harris, who also lost — alleging that Bruce disguised her sex while seeking re-election last year to the Riverdale Council. The court ruled unanimously that Bruce’s use of the name Michelle on ballots did not “cast doubt on the results of the election.”

{ 74 comments }

Decaturguy October 7, 2008 at 2:27 pm

For someone who complains as much about not being accepted, you have very little tolerance for those you disagree with.

Doug, what in the world are you talking about? I never complain about “not being accepted.” Where have I ever not been accepted? What are you talking about?

And not only do I have plenty of conservative friends and have tolerance for those that disagree with me, I have even worked for Republican politicians before.

What are you talking about?

Chris Farris October 7, 2008 at 2:28 pm

How is this for compromise?

He/She/Whatever is an elected official in Clayton County. That in and of itself is a good enough reason to call it an it.

Doug Deal October 7, 2008 at 2:35 pm

rugby,

You are good at arguing against straw men. I think it is foolish to buy an expensive luxury car, does that mean I hate people who buy them?

As for being around my child; I also don’t want alcoholic beverages around my child. That also goes for sexual innuendo and mature themed jokes. I have no problem with them myself. Does this mean I hate them as well?

Like I said, you do not make any logical sense.

muffin15 October 7, 2008 at 2:35 pm

simply put…If my Gmaw had voted for this human….she would feel like she did not get what she voted for. And just because a court or some overly sensitive blogger says its right does not make it so. This human misrepresented them self as a woman. For fair disclosure I don’t care what it is!

Doug Deal October 7, 2008 at 2:53 pm

Decatur,

It may be unfair, but that is just the impression I get from you when someone posts something you disagree with related to gays. Accusing someone of intolerence for pointing out the obvious (that people are going to react to someone getting a sex change, and that the use of pronouns is made awkward) is a little extreme.

Personally, I do not care about anyone’s sex life, gay, straight, or Icarus. But someone with a man’s build running around with a five o’clock shadow, a dress and heals is going to be thought of as odd. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news in that regard.

jsm October 7, 2008 at 2:55 pm

Has anyone mentioned that this person was born a hermaphrodite? At least that’s what the TV news broadcast said last night. Sounds to me like the parents decided in favor of one gender and “Michelle” decided later in favor of another.

I don’t understand why someone would find it necessary to take legal action in this situation.

Doug Deal October 7, 2008 at 3:06 pm

jsm,

That is interesting. Our semantic laiden argument aside, it is a big difference for this type of surgery in this situation than in the usual case. It does go to show the failing of our language that people have to be referred to by their sex and that there is no gender neutral way to refer to another human being without it being considered insulting.

But, I think most here agree the law suit was ridiculous.

John Konop October 7, 2008 at 3:44 pm

This is a he said she said issue!

Bill Simon October 7, 2008 at 3:51 pm

DD,

“I also don’t want alcoholic beverages around my child. ”

Sooo…you NEVER drink a beer around your kid, I take it? :-)

Icarus October 7, 2008 at 4:19 pm

“Personally, I do not care about anyone’s sex life, gay, straight, or Icarus.”

Dammit Doug, I was doing a good job of staying out of this one.

Doug Deal October 7, 2008 at 5:05 pm

Bill,

I don’t drink alcoholic beverages around myself. I have 2 – 5 month old beers in my refrigerator that someone brought over, that lie untouched. The last thing I need are lowered inhibitions.

John,

Hilarity (hi·lar·i·ty) noun The content of the following joke: “This is a he said she said issue!”

Icarus,

Think Godfather III, “Just when you thought you were out… we pull you back in.”.

umustbekidding October 7, 2008 at 6:07 pm

Everyone just agree not to use the term “it”, instead try “HeShe”.

John Konop October 7, 2008 at 6:50 pm

Doug

LOL

DavidAtlanta October 7, 2008 at 11:35 pm

C’mon, Erick. “It”?? Can you leave the middle school insults behind when it comes to transgendered people? If you want to be politically incorrect, use “he”. If you want to be an ass, keep using “it”.

“It” is not an appropriate pronoun for any human being… except for maybe Doug Deal, given that the evidence presented so far on this thread brings his humanity into question. A person can’t be *that* stupid, can they?

John Konop October 8, 2008 at 6:36 am

DavidAtlanta

Lighten up “it” was a joke.

Doug Deal October 8, 2008 at 7:33 am

David,

Your life would be a lot more pleasant without being driven by hate of those you disagree with.

DavidAtlanta October 8, 2008 at 9:13 am

John,
It was a joke, but it was an inappropriate and insulting one. It’s not the first time Erick has made this kind of joke. It’s tired and unfunny.

Doug, my life is very pleasant. I enjoy calling out idiots like yourself. I don’t hate you. I just think you are a clueless moron.

Icarus October 8, 2008 at 9:16 am

David,

Doug is not a clueless moron.

He’s a very well informed moron.

Doug Deal October 8, 2008 at 9:30 am

Thanks Icarus!

Doug Deal October 8, 2008 at 9:31 am

David,

You do not even know what you are talking about. Please feel free to point out the parts with which you disagree. Of course you prefer to resort to hate filled name calling.

griftdrift October 8, 2008 at 9:33 am

After you point out where you disagree, Doug will then calmly chide you on your ignorance and suggest a therapist to correct your self-loathing.

Zoe Brain October 8, 2008 at 11:43 am

He grabbed Zapata’s crotch area, felt male genitalia and became angry, the affidavit states. He took a fire extinguisher off a shelf and struck Zapata twice in the head, telling investigators he thought he “killed it.”

Andrade told investigators he covered Zapata with a blanket and started gathering evidence he thought might link him to the crime when he heard gurgling sounds and noticed Zapata was sitting up. That’s when he picked up the fire extinguisher and hit her again, police said. He left the apartment and took her car, he said.

So, am I comparing the author to a moronic petty crim and brutal killer?

As a matter of fact, yes, that’s exactly what I’m doing. The irrational hatred is the same.

Bill Simon October 8, 2008 at 5:31 pm

Who? what? Zapata?

Bill Simon October 8, 2008 at 5:34 pm

“Lighten up “it” was a joke.”

This from the guy (i.e., Konop) who accuses everyone of being a racist if they make any comment about someone’s color…especially if that color is some shade of being black.

Konop, what if the transgendered person was black? THEN you’d be all over this thread accusing Erick of being a racist.

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