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	<title>Comments on: Will supporting the bailout sink Marshall and Chambliss?</title>
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		<title>By: Icarus</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/10/06/will-supporting-the-bailout-sink-marshall-and-chambliss/comment-page-1/#comment-140378</link>
		<dc:creator>Icarus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After a ruling from the judges (imdb.com), Dr.Jay is correct, and another part of my childhood is revealed to be a lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After a ruling from the judges (imdb.com), Dr.Jay is correct, and another part of my childhood is revealed to be a lie.</p>
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		<title>By: drjay</title>
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		<dc:creator>drjay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s hermey the dentist, hermey the elf is a dentist--i believe herbie is merely his drunk cousin...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s hermey the dentist, hermey the elf is a dentist&#8211;i believe herbie is merely his drunk cousin&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/10/06/will-supporting-the-bailout-sink-marshall-and-chambliss/comment-page-1/#comment-140372</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of flat screens, I am in the market for a tube TV that someone doesn&#039;t need anymore because they upgraded to their big-ass plasma/flat screen TV.

Really...I don&#039;t mind suffering with a plain old tube...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of flat screens, I am in the market for a tube TV that someone doesn&#8217;t need anymore because they upgraded to their big-ass plasma/flat screen TV.</p>
<p>Really&#8230;I don&#8217;t mind suffering with a plain old tube&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Icarus</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/10/06/will-supporting-the-bailout-sink-marshall-and-chambliss/comment-page-1/#comment-140363</link>
		<dc:creator>Icarus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill,

It&#039;s much more fun to play with Other People&#039;s Money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s much more fun to play with Other People&#8217;s Money.</p>
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		<title>By: Icarus</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/10/06/will-supporting-the-bailout-sink-marshall-and-chambliss/comment-page-1/#comment-140362</link>
		<dc:creator>Icarus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;people aren’t going to upgrade infrastructure&quot;

People won&#039;t, but I expect the next Congress to decide that they need to &quot;invest&quot; heavily in infrastructure.   I would expect a major expansion in highway funding (with the usual crap for sidewalks and bike paths), as well as some kind of energy infrastructure upgrade.   I would love to find a beaten down aggregate company with a strong balance sheet, or something that is a pure play on nuclear.

And I still think there&#039;s an opportunity to short some of the retailers for another 15-25%.  How many people are really going to be shopping at Bed, Bath, and Beyond?   Doesn&#039;t everyone already have a flat screen from Best Buy by now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;people aren’t going to upgrade infrastructure&#8221;</p>
<p>People won&#8217;t, but I expect the next Congress to decide that they need to &#8220;invest&#8221; heavily in infrastructure.   I would expect a major expansion in highway funding (with the usual crap for sidewalks and bike paths), as well as some kind of energy infrastructure upgrade.   I would love to find a beaten down aggregate company with a strong balance sheet, or something that is a pure play on nuclear.</p>
<p>And I still think there&#8217;s an opportunity to short some of the retailers for another 15-25%.  How many people are really going to be shopping at Bed, Bath, and Beyond?   Doesn&#8217;t everyone already have a flat screen from Best Buy by now?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Icarus,

Must be nice having cash to play in the market with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Icarus,</p>
<p>Must be nice having cash to play in the market with.</p>
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		<title>By: Ga Values</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ga Values</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post from the insider, so I cut &amp; Pasted


By JAY 

October 7, 2008 12:00 PM &#124; Link to this

IF HE CAN FORCAST THE FUTURE BY SAYING A YES VOTE WOULD BEAT A DEPRESSION, THEN HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO STOP FANNIE &amp; MAC FROM THEIR MELT DOWN.CHAMBLISS HAS BECOME JUST ANOTHER CLOSET SOCIALIST.HE ALSO SAID HE VOTED YES TO SAVE WALL STREET, I HAD NO IDEA THAT WALL STREET PUT HIM IN OFFICE. HE &amp; JOE [STAND UO CHUCK] BIDEN MUST HAVE THE SAME DNA——-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post from the insider, so I cut &amp; Pasted</p>
<p>By JAY </p>
<p>October 7, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this</p>
<p>IF HE CAN FORCAST THE FUTURE BY SAYING A YES VOTE WOULD BEAT A DEPRESSION, THEN HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO STOP FANNIE &amp; MAC FROM THEIR MELT DOWN.CHAMBLISS HAS BECOME JUST ANOTHER CLOSET SOCIALIST.HE ALSO SAID HE VOTED YES TO SAVE WALL STREET, I HAD NO IDEA THAT WALL STREET PUT HIM IN OFFICE. HE &amp; JOE [STAND UO CHUCK] BIDEN MUST HAVE THE SAME DNA——-</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wavy Sez: &quot;Point is, there were no alternatives measures discussed, just this all or nothing hail mary that doesn’t address the root cause of the problem. This is just bandaid on a gunshot wound.&quot;

I am in agreement with Wavy.  NO alternative from Paulson or Bush was considered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wavy Sez: &#8220;Point is, there were no alternatives measures discussed, just this all or nothing hail mary that doesn’t address the root cause of the problem. This is just bandaid on a gunshot wound.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am in agreement with Wavy.  NO alternative from Paulson or Bush was considered.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Deal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Deal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Icarus,

My suggestion is to invest in things that are not discretionary.  In a recession, people aren&#039;t going to upgrade infrastructure and expand capacity.  Consumers are going to cut back on nice restaurants and gadgets.  However, people may increase visits to lower end restaurants (at the expense of the higher end one) and will continue to purchase the staples. 

When the market as a whole takes a hit, I think those types of investments will recover first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Icarus,</p>
<p>My suggestion is to invest in things that are not discretionary.  In a recession, people aren&#8217;t going to upgrade infrastructure and expand capacity.  Consumers are going to cut back on nice restaurants and gadgets.  However, people may increase visits to lower end restaurants (at the expense of the higher end one) and will continue to purchase the staples. </p>
<p>When the market as a whole takes a hit, I think those types of investments will recover first.</p>
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		<title>By: Icarus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Icarus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps Herbie the Dentist can buy the gold to fill elf teeth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps Herbie the Dentist can buy the gold to fill elf teeth?</p>
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		<title>By: Game Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Game Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yukon Cornelius is leaning toward silver and gold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yukon Cornelius is leaning toward silver and gold.</p>
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		<title>By: Icarus</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/10/06/will-supporting-the-bailout-sink-marshall-and-chambliss/comment-page-1/#comment-140345</link>
		<dc:creator>Icarus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In any event, I would buy now,... I am buying back in a little at a time.

Dollar cost averaging should be O.K. here, but there&#039;s more bad news to come, and October is traditionally a horrible month for stocks anyway.  

I think there&#039;s another 10-15% baked in on the downside.  There are far too many retailers who haven&#039;t taken the hit that they need yet.  I&#039;m hoping we&#039;re closer to the bottom than not, but I&#039;m not yet willing to bet on it.

Of course, if anyone wants to share contra-suggestions or investment themes, I&#039;m all ears.  Given the number of &quot;Saxby has problems&quot; threads we have up, I think we can get a pass on the threadjack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In any event, I would buy now,&#8230; I am buying back in a little at a time.</p>
<p>Dollar cost averaging should be O.K. here, but there&#8217;s more bad news to come, and October is traditionally a horrible month for stocks anyway.  </p>
<p>I think there&#8217;s another 10-15% baked in on the downside.  There are far too many retailers who haven&#8217;t taken the hit that they need yet.  I&#8217;m hoping we&#8217;re closer to the bottom than not, but I&#8217;m not yet willing to bet on it.</p>
<p>Of course, if anyone wants to share contra-suggestions or investment themes, I&#8217;m all ears.  Given the number of &#8220;Saxby has problems&#8221; threads we have up, I think we can get a pass on the threadjack.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Deal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Deal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atl,

If you buy an index fund today and the market returns to what it was 1 year ago, you would make 40%.  Not a bad turnaround.  

In any event, I would buy now, and have bought.  I was totally in cash so I lost nothing.  Now I am buying back in a little at a time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atl,</p>
<p>If you buy an index fund today and the market returns to what it was 1 year ago, you would make 40%.  Not a bad turnaround.  </p>
<p>In any event, I would buy now, and have bought.  I was totally in cash so I lost nothing.  Now I am buying back in a little at a time.</p>
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		<title>By: liberator</title>
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		<dc:creator>liberator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Libertarian can be found at www.buckleyforsenate.com Elect him!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Libertarian can be found at <a href="http://www.buckleyforsenate.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.buckleyforsenate.com</a> Elect him!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Clint&#039;s comment on &quot;class anger&quot; is dead on, although probably not in the way he intended.  I think it&#039;s the producers who make this nation&#039;s economy work are outraged that this crisis was brought on by the taxpayers having to subsidize mortgages for those who couldn&#039;t afford them and quite frankly, are undeserving of having them.  Can&#039;t afford to own a home and take on the responsibility that home ownership entails?  Tough s**t!!  Work until you can.  It&#039;s pretty simple.  We&#039;ve been propping up the parasites for decades and look what is happening.  Our nation is about to crumble because we continue to support those who are literally sucking the life blood out of this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Clint&#8217;s comment on &#8220;class anger&#8221; is dead on, although probably not in the way he intended.  I think it&#8217;s the producers who make this nation&#8217;s economy work are outraged that this crisis was brought on by the taxpayers having to subsidize mortgages for those who couldn&#8217;t afford them and quite frankly, are undeserving of having them.  Can&#8217;t afford to own a home and take on the responsibility that home ownership entails?  Tough s**t!!  Work until you can.  It&#8217;s pretty simple.  We&#8217;ve been propping up the parasites for decades and look what is happening.  Our nation is about to crumble because we continue to support those who are literally sucking the life blood out of this country.</p>
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		<title>By: Poll: Martin trails Chambliss by one point &#124; Fresh Loaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Poll: Martin trails Chambliss by one point &#124; Fresh Loaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] poll was conducted Sept. 29-Oct. 1 before the Wall Street bailout package plan passed the Senate. (Chambliss voted for the $850-zillion package, much to the ire of pretty much everyone in the world. The incumbent Republican doesn&#8217;t want to talk about the economy anymore and would prefer we [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] poll was conducted Sept. 29-Oct. 1 before the Wall Street bailout package plan passed the Senate. (Chambliss voted for the $850-zillion package, much to the ire of pretty much everyone in the world. The incumbent Republican doesn&#8217;t want to talk about the economy anymore and would prefer we [...]</p>
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		<title>By: slyram</title>
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		<dc:creator>slyram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Marshall’s fellow Democrat Jim Martin”  That’s funny because Martin obviously can say what he wants without regard for Marshall because is barely a member of the Dem Team.  I am telling you Marshall might have a pass from the Speaker Pelosi to ignore Obama/Biden and that senate race—just come back so he can vote for her.  

I must give Marshall credit; he does what he wants and if the voters don’t like it Goddard will be picking out drapes. 

If the new voters in Macon, Tifton and Covington realized that Marshall was not for Obama, it would be curtains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Marshall’s fellow Democrat Jim Martin”  That’s funny because Martin obviously can say what he wants without regard for Marshall because is barely a member of the Dem Team.  I am telling you Marshall might have a pass from the Speaker Pelosi to ignore Obama/Biden and that senate race—just come back so he can vote for her.  </p>
<p>I must give Marshall credit; he does what he wants and if the voters don’t like it Goddard will be picking out drapes. </p>
<p>If the new voters in Macon, Tifton and Covington realized that Marshall was not for Obama, it would be curtains.</p>
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		<title>By: AtlConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>AtlConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug,

My point was - the bailout apparently didn&#039;t fix everything!  Or... possible anything! 

Oh and they are blaming our drop on the foreign markets who are blaming their drop on fear of what&#039;s going on in the US markets...  

What happened to a free market society?  And hasn&#039;t anyone in this country taken an econ class?!?!

BTW, I would invest in a heartbeat if I had the money!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug,</p>
<p>My point was &#8211; the bailout apparently didn&#8217;t fix everything!  Or&#8230; possible anything! </p>
<p>Oh and they are blaming our drop on the foreign markets who are blaming their drop on fear of what&#8217;s going on in the US markets&#8230;  </p>
<p>What happened to a free market society?  And hasn&#8217;t anyone in this country taken an econ class?!?!</p>
<p>BTW, I would invest in a heartbeat if I had the money!</p>
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		<title>By: Game Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Game Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donkey
re: &quot;cats&quot;
Used to be as American as apple pie to take a certain attitude toward politicians.  Thought I&#039;d re-introduce the concept around here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donkey<br />
re: &#8220;cats&#8221;<br />
Used to be as American as apple pie to take a certain attitude toward politicians.  Thought I&#8217;d re-introduce the concept around here.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Deal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Deal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atl,

So the stock market went down 777 because the House failed to pass the plan, then it went up the next day by about 400 because obviously the investors thought the Senate would act.  Then the market goes down another 400 because of &quot;bad economic news&quot;, bad economic news that apparently had nothing to do with the Senate passing it. 

I wonder what the MSM is going to credit this loss to?  Naysaying about the Great Fix Everything Plan of 2008?

Why is it that now this turkey passed, all of the new outlets are running stories about how ineffectual it will be?</description>
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<p>So the stock market went down 777 because the House failed to pass the plan, then it went up the next day by about 400 because obviously the investors thought the Senate would act.  Then the market goes down another 400 because of &#8220;bad economic news&#8221;, bad economic news that apparently had nothing to do with the Senate passing it. </p>
<p>I wonder what the MSM is going to credit this loss to?  Naysaying about the Great Fix Everything Plan of 2008?</p>
<p>Why is it that now this turkey passed, all of the new outlets are running stories about how ineffectual it will be?</p>
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