Senator Saxby Chambliss on the bailout situation.

Georgia Senator Saxby Chambliss held a press conference in Atlanta today to talk about the state of the proposed financial bailout. Here is some video from that event:

70 comments

  1. John Konop says:

    FYI

    This was posted on my site and I have no idea if this is a good poll. If true this does not look good for Saxby.

    GA-Sen: Chambliss and Martin Neck-and-Neck in New SUSA Poll
    by: James L.

    Jim Martin (D): 44 (36)
    Saxby Chambliss (R-inc): 46 (53)
    Allen Buckley (L): 5 (8)

  2. GOPGrassroots says:

    It was a push poll with the usual smear tactics – “Would you vote for Saxby if you knew he …(insert wide variety of completely false accusations).

    These numbers are bogus and far out of line with all the other polling that has come out.

    Desperate candidate + 100% negative campaign + fake poll + most liberal voting record in the GA House = Jim Martin

  3. steelfist says:

    Push poll – it was an independent poll paid for by 3 news agencies: Roll Call, WXIA in ATL and WMAZ in Macon. Why would they do a push poll? Claiming it’s a push poll is what desperate campaigns do when the poll is unfavorable to them.

  4. Icarus says:

    I think GOPGrassroots is confusing this with the poll the DPG released yesterday. Results shouldn’t be too surprising. Martin is on TV, Saxby hasn’t been as much, and the voters are very angry right now as they sit in gas lines, listening to their radio about the economy crashing and the government wants to write a couple of trillion dollar checks to fix it.

    If the election were being held tomorrow, he might need to be worried. He’s still got 5 weeks to make his case for re-election, and I think (hope) you can call the events of this week the low water mark.

  5. GOPGrassroots says:

    My sister in Americus got a call asking “If you knew that Senator Chambliss took bribes, would you still support him?”, maybe this was a different pollster. I didn’t realize so many folks were spending tens of thousands of dollars polling in Georgia. It could have been the DSCC poll. My bad.

  6. John Konop says:

    Icarus

    Why should anyone vote for Saxby? You can give a list why you do not like Martin but please help me understand why someone should vote for Saxby. This is why I said early on this election would be close.

    GOPG

    I never questioned your integrity of your answer I was just curios.

  7. GeorgiaValues says:

    1) Saxby understands that we are in tough economic times and the last thing Georgia families need are higher taxes. That is why he has introduced the Fair Tax in the U.S. Senate. The Fair Tax would replace all federal income and payroll taxes with a progressive national retail sales tax, a prebate to ensure no American pays federal taxes on spending up to the poverty level, dollar-for-dollar federal revenue neutrality, and a repeal of the 16th Amendment through companion legislation.

    2) Saxby knows Georgia families are being squeezed by rising health care costs. He is original cosponsor of S. 1019, the “Universal Health Care Choice and Access Act,” to provide individuals and families with tax incentives so they can afford to purchase their own health insurance. Saxby also voted to stop a cut in Medicaid reimbursements to our doctors that would have kept many of them from providing services to our seniors. And he introduced a bill to fix SCHIP’s funding shortfall and save Georgia’s PeachCare program for our children.

    3) Saxby believes we must secure our borders first and enforce the immigration laws we have on the books. Saxby has rejected proposals to provide amnesty for illegal immigrants and has called for the creation of a tamper-proof biometric ID card for foreign workers.

    4) Saxby has traveled to Iraq six times and spent Thanksgiving with our Georgia troops deployed in the area. He introduced the Wounded Warrior Assistance Act of 2007 to make certain that the medical needs of wounded servicemen and women are properly met and that bureaucracy does not interfere with their progress. He worked with the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs to open additional community-based outpatient clinics throughout Georgia. And he supported the 2009 Defense Authorization Act that provides $612.5 billion in funding for the Department of Defense including $60 billion in war-related supplemental funding and a 3.9% pay raise for service members.

  8. John Konop says:

    GeorgiaValues

    Out of Control Spending

    Saxby Chambliss has not found a pork bill he did not like: from the Highway Bill with its Bridge to Nowhere to the Energy Bill that gave billions to oil companies away while gas prices soar. Saxby’s irresponsible spending has put America close to $9 trillion in the red. The General Accounting office has warned Saxby that his addiction to pork spending will bankrupt our country.

    Education

    Saxby Chambliss is a strong supporter of the scandal-ridden, pork-filled No Child Left Behind legislation. Any honest school administrator will tell you this Big Government program has failed our kids and driven school expenses way up. The only winners are corporate lobbyists (who buy support for the program though campaign donations).

  9. GeorgiaValues says:

    Konop

    Why should anyone vote for Jim Martin? You can give a list why you do not like Saxby but please help me understand why someone should vote for Martin.

  10. GOPGrassroots says:

    Since we’re talking about this race, Jim Martin loves bigger Government…

    In 1989, Jim Martin Voted For What Was The Largest Tax Increase In Georgia’s History

    Jim Martin voted for HB 474, which increased the sales tax rate in Georgia. (Passed 129-40)

    The tax increase raised taxes on Georgia households by 32 percent.

    In a March 12, 1989, article, the Atlanta Journal and Constitution reported, “The day after last year’s general election – a banner year for Republicans – Georgia’s conservative Democratic governor started his political party down a road that led to the largest tax increase in the state’s history.

    “As the Democrats who control the Legislature started deciding how to spend the $687 million from that increase – a one-penny increase in the state sales tax approved last week – a nagging question lingered:

    “Did Gov. Joe Frank Harris start down the road to political destruction or prosperity for the party that has controlled Georgia’s State house for all of this century? Or will the tax increase matter at all next year when Georgians select Mr. Harris’s successor and a new General Assembly.”

    On Feb. 23, 1990, the Atlanta Journal said, “House Democrats, in order to pass the largest tax increase in Georgia history, reluctantly agreed to Lt. Gov Zell Miller’s demand that some food items be exempt from the increased sales tax.”

    Other votes…

    Martin Voted To Add A Fee To Tires

    Jim Martin voted for a bill that adds a $1 tax to the retail price of each tire to fund a cleanup of illegal tire dumps. (Passed 136-12)

    Martin Voted Against A Bill To Provide A Tax Credit For Employers Who Employ Aid To Families With Dependent Children (AFDC) Recipients

    Martin voted against a bill to provide for a tax credit for employers who employ AFDC recipients. (Passed 163-7)

  11. Ga Values says:

    GeorgiaValues–hasstole my name but what would you expect from a Chambliss operative.
    Where Saxby Chambliss gets his money::

    Agri Business—-$1,368,000 Banks, Insurance, Real Estate—-$1,332,000 Lawyers & Individual Lobbyist——$641,000 Misc Business —-$679,000 Other ——$606,000..

    The Agi Business got a gift of $20 billion waste from Saxby’s Farm Bill. The Banks, Real Estate & Lawyers just got a $2 TRILLION gift from the Bail Out the Banks act which Saxby & Johnny are working for. Not a bad return on your money.

  12. John Konop says:

    GeorgiaValues

    I made it clear I do not support Martin. My only point is no one can give a rational reason to vote for Saxby. And that is why the election will be tight.

    You have Dems who support Martin and many people who cannot see much of a difference.

  13. Ga Values says:

    Saxby on AMNESTY, with his buddies Boxer, Kennedy, Spector & Reid. Hard to deny this not Saxby but I’m sure some of thes Chambliss shills will try to explain this did not happen

  14. To send a message to big government, big spending, fiscal liberal, interventionalist republicans.

    Even though I’ll be voting for Allen Buckley. this is also a good reason to vote for Martin as well. Maybe next time the GOP will find a real constitutional conservative and not just one that speaks a good game.

  15. Ga Values says:

    Saxby Chambliss has turned a blind eye to hardworking every-day Georgians who are struggling to stay afloat in tough economic times.

    This week, we hear from Twiggs County farmer George Rouse. Skyrocketing costs on everything from groceries to gas to health care are making it harder than ever for George, and millions of other Georgians, to get by. Food prices have almost doubled since 2005 [Source: ERS/USDA]. The price of gas has more than tripled since Saxby was elected to the Senate [Source: Energy Information Administration]. But unfortunately, Saxby is just too busy helping out his lobbyist and special interest pals to help out hard-working Georgians who deserve a fair shake from Washington.

    We need a Senator in Washington to fight for George Rouse and folks like him, not the special interests and lobbyists.

    When it comes to looking out for Georgia’s working families, Saxby looked the other way:

    No help for farmers and ranchers. Chambliss voted against assistance to farmers and ranchers making less than $750,000 a year and a program that would have helped train and encourage the next generation of American farmers and ranchers. [Vote #426, 12/13/07].

    No help for working families either. And while prices for food, housing, health care and other necessities have gone up, Chambliss voted multiple times against raising the minimum wage [Vote #179, 6/21/06, Vote #26, 3/7/05]

    Meanwhile, Saxby has worked hard to get things done for his friends on Wall Street.

    Yes to rewarding companies that send American jobs to China, India, and other countries. In 2004, Chambliss voted against closing up $39 billion in tax breaks for companies that outsource their jobs. [Vote 90, 5/11/04] In 2005, Chambliss voted against against repealing tax incentives for domestic companies that move their manufacturing plants out of the U.S. [Vote 63, 3/17/05]
    He even gave those same companies a tax cut. In 2003, Chambliss voted to cut taxes on U.S. companies’ overseas income from 35% to 5.25%. [Vote 165, 5/15/03]

    Won’t hold U.S. companies accountable if they deal with terrorists. Chambliss even voted against an amendment that makes U.S. businesses liable for dealing with foreign businesses that have links to terrorism. [Vote 203, 7/26/05]

  16. GeorgiaValues says:

    To Fake GeorgiaValues, I’ve been posting on here for a long time before you got on here, borrowed my name, post the exact same attacks every time and try to claim I stole your name. You are a moron with no Values.

    To John Konop, I just gave you a few reasons to support Saxby, but you are not really interested in reasons to support him. You are against him, just like you were against Tom Price when you ran and got crushed a few years back. You are only interested in promoting yourself and making your point that you think all incumbant Republicans suck. These are all recycled arguments from your own quest for elected office and the voters didn’t agree with you.

    I am proud to be a Georgia Republican, I am proud of Saxby Chambliss, and I look forward to seeing him crush the little left wing liberal Jim Martin.

  17. kcordell says:

    I’ll be voting for Buckley also. I try to catch Al Gainey every Friday on WDUN and most of his callers have been in support of Buckley. I haven’t heard one single caller supporting Saxby.

  18. Icarus says:

    John,

    I could go into a lot of the reasons above for Saxby, but to save time, it’s like this:

    Either Saxby or Jim Martin will be the next Senator. There’s no reason in my mind to register a protest vote for Buckley, then hope to save a scared Saxby in a runoff. The state is going to have to cut enough spending without paying for a runoff election. A Jim Martin victory would cost us even more.

  19. Ga Values says:

    GeorgiaValues– I guess you hit the nail on the head you like Saxby have no values.. hope you are collecting big bucks from the lobbyist like Saxby.

  20. Ga Values says:

    GeorgiaValues…
    If you are for Saxby you are not a REAL REPUBLICAN, just a RINO like Saxby Special Interest Chambliss & his LOBBYIST son Bo.

  21. Bill Simon says:

    Saxby this and Saxby that….

    “most liberal voting record in the GA House = Jim Martin”

    Please define the “conservative” voting record we’ve experienced from Saxby…AND put it in terms of how much money this fake conservative has cost the American people with all of his damn f*cking Farm Bill, etc. bulls*it.

    I don’t give a damn about your accolades above, Ga Values, that’s all a lot of horsesh*t.

    Tell me how much his votes have saved the American taxpayer. My guess is $0,000,000,000,000.00

  22. Three Jack says:

    there is only one reason to vote for saxby, he is (arguably) the lesser of the two evils.

    but that is not enough for him to get my vote. saxby has repeatedly failed to stand up against big spending, open border, higher tax liberals. saxby is a f’n disaster and the gop f’d up by not putting up a candidate to challenge him in the primary.

    unfortunately, i still think he will win by a significant margin.

  23. Bill Simon says:

    AND, to make it clear, I don’t support Martin…

    I just don’t idolize Chambliss….AND, I don’t want his yard sign mucking-up the view of my McCain sign.

  24. What numeral will they land on this time? 5? 15? 30? How many shall fill the gang this time?

    Only time will tell.

    Martin or Saxby, which is truly the lesser of evils? I’m not sure. On one hand, if I vote Martin I may get a Eugene Talmadge look-a-like elected…which would provide me with much amusement. But on the other hand, I could have Saxby which sounds like Zaxby and that makes me think of chicken.

    Decisions, decisions.

  25. John Konop says:

    GeorgiaValues

    I may have lost an election but I was right about the economy. At the end if more people across the country had listen to real fiscal conservatives like me warning about the economy we would not be facing the bailout issue.

    The real question is who really lost?

  26. John Konop says:

    GeorgiaValues

    Just to set the facts straight I did speak out against Saxby about many of the issues I ran on. And I did use part of an op-ed that I wrote years ago. The false part is I was promoting a real fiscal conservative REPUBLICAN CHIP ROGERS over a LIBERAL SPENDING REPUBLICAN SAXBY! And anyone who has read my blog or comments of this blog knows I call them like I see them. Unlike you my COUNTRY means more than any PARTY!

    BTW I gave Tom Price a very strong support speech at the Cherokee County Republican Party meeting for his recent fiscally conservative votes.

    This was the actual op-ed.

    SAXBY OUT ROGERS IN

    Rumors are flying that Georgia State Senator Chip Rogers has been approached to challenge US Senator Saxby Chambliss in the Republican primary. It makes a lot of sense. Chip Rogers would bring the Republican Party back to its conservative roots. The difference between Chip and Saxby is night and day!

    Immigration and Trade

    Saxby Chambliss strongly supports an immigration policy that unfairly pits tax payer-subsidized immigrant labor against hard working American families.
    Saxby also does the bidding of his globalist, corporate masters by falsely claiming we need more unfair trade, more outsourcing (to countries like China and India), and more immigration to:

    • Feed a labor shortage (How can there be a labor shortage if wages are falling?)
    • “Do the jobs Americans won’t do” (Americans have always done our nation’s work—for a reasonable wage.)

    In truth the purpose of his immigration and trade votes is to drive down wages on behalf of his corporate campaign donors.

    Chip Rogers has been a strong and consistent leader, fighting on behalf of American workers and tax payers for the enforcement of immigration laws and to secure our borders.

    Out of Control Spending

    Saxby Chambliss has not found a pork bill he did not like: from the Highway Bill with its Bridge to Nowhere to the Energy Bill that gave billions to oil companies away while gas prices soar. Saxby’s irresponsible spending has put America close to $9 trillion in the red. The General Accounting office has warned Saxby that his addiction to pork spending will bankrupt our country.

    Chip Rogers has been very outspoken against Washington’s pork spending and has earned a reputation as a conservative spender in Georgia’s statehouse.

    Education

    Saxby Chambliss is a strong supporter of the scandal-ridden, pork-filled No Child Left Behind legislation. Any honest school administrator will tell you this Big Government program has failed our kids and driven school expenses way up. The only winners are corporate lobbyists (who buy support for the program though campaign donations).

    Chip Rogers strongly supports locally-not federally-run schools.

    Wake Up the Republican Party

    If you support a return to real Conservative values, please:

    • Let Georgia’s GOP leadership know you support leaders we can trust to support our interests, not the big-money lobbyists. Tell them you support Chip Rogers over Saxby Chambliss for the US senate. [[email protected]]

    • Forward this email to your friends
    • Write or call Chip Rogers to encourage him to challenge Chambliss [[email protected] -or- (770)516-0543 ]

  27. Three Jack says:

    “The real question is who really lost?”

    price 82%
    konop 17%

    are you implying that if you had won, the economy would have been saved by a freshman congressman from ga?

  28. Bill Simon says:

    Three Jack,

    A freshmen congressman who would have been able to INJECT some commonsense economic knowledge into the mass of f*cking morons.

    Hey, but you keep worshipping Boehner, et al. You probably have a bedspread that has Dennis Hastert printed on it that you wrap your body in every night, longing for having The Hammer (Tom Dipsh*t DeLay) at your beck and call.

  29. IndyInjun says:

    “Georgia Values” must be a total FOOL to come on here pitching Chambliss as the Fair taxer, as repeatedly as that nutty con job has been discredited.

    Hey, if you and that FRAUD who you stand for want to seriously campaign on that ….bring it on.

    Putting a 30% tax on oldsters nursing home care and simultaneously forgiving $40 or $50 billion in oil company back taxes ought to fit right in with the way Saxby is stealing from us to reward his bankfraudsters/bankrollers.

    Chambliss is a LIBERAL, BIG SPENDING. CORRUPT WIND BAG.

  30. Bill Simon says:

    “Oh, Rhett! You could be a senator like Saxby too! If only you had the “senatorial look” about you…you need a deep South drawl, white hair, and that’s all you need to win elections in Jawja…(oh, my, oh my!!!!)…

  31. IndyInjun says:

    Stick a pitchfork in Saxby…..

    I can hardly wait until this Sack of Excrement comes back to Georgia to campaign.

  32. John Konop says:

    Three Jack

    I was not the only one warning about all the issues with our economy. But at end it is what it is! And look in the mirror and you will see why we are facing a bailout!

  33. Chris says:

    The problem here is that the GOP would rather have a liberal in office with an R after their name than take the chance on a conservative and risk getting a liberal with a D after their name.

    If Sen. Rogers had challenged Saxby his political career would have been over. He’d have been accused of being disloyal, and Anti-American for risking turning Saxby’s seat blue in a year when the Democrats could get the 60 plus votes needed to do anything they liked.

    Tonight we shall find out if there will be any bumperstickers on my car come morning. I will not cast a vote for any Republican who supports this bailout, nor will I cast my vote for any of the incompetents running on a minor-party ticket. I will vote in November.

    Sarah Palin has more experience than Barr and Buckley combined.

  34. Three Jack says:

    chris, chip rogers would be the gop nominee for u.s. senate had he challenged saxby. in fact, if anybody with a few bucks and some name recognition on the republican side grew a pair and stepped up, they would be on the way to dc.

    saxby has already lost support from many conservatives. when he casts his support for this wipeout bill tonight, it will seal his fate as a one term blunder.

  35. Three Jack says:

    konop, you asked “who really lost” as if you would have made a difference in congress. i just want to know what you or any other freshman could have done from january, 07 to now in order to avert the current economic situation.

    blaming me or any other person is not an answer.

  36. bowersville says:

    Freshman GOP representatives from ’07, probably nothing. The better question is what could the Republican majority in the US House of Representatives done to avoid this mess when the GOP held the House, Senate and Oval Office.

    Huh? What was that you said, spend like a bunch of drunks and get washed away in a tsunami?

    Why don’t you tell us how the GOP is going to pick up more seats in the House and Senate.

    The arrogance of what’s left in the House GOP amazes me.

  37. John Konop says:

    Three Jack

    As I said many other rational people were making the same point I was across the country about spending and lack of regulations regarding tax payer’s money.

    As I repeated numerous times that deregulation is fine if it is in the private sector, fully disclosed and not fraud. If you put tax payer money at risk like a SBA loan regulations should be tight.

    While you and others were screaming for and supporting deregulation of tax payer guaranteed money via home loans and student loans you lost sight that this is socialism out of control.

    I also warned about how out of control spending from Washington would ad to the problem via devaluation of the dollar. And when so called conservatives like you called me “chicken little” for pointing out the above problems was I right or wrong?

    The reason I ran was to help inform people of the problem. The elected officials only represent what the public want. The real issue is many like you on both sides are addicted to the government free lunch program!

    I realize what I said would not be popular to tell people you cannot have you cake without a price. At the end I did my civic duty and probably will never run for office again.

    I do know I have a small voice now because of this issue as well as other like math 123 in which I forecasted the catastrophe. And in Cherokee County as you know I got close to 30% of the vote as a first time candidate out spent 20 to 1, many think I could easily get elected in Cherokee especially after how everything played out.

    I have made it clear I enjoy what I do and it is more about issues than winning an election. And if I can help in any small part by informing people to help shape policy that is fine with me.

  38. Three Jack says:

    konop, not sure how blaming others would have made a difference, but if that is what works for you, keep it up. seems to be working for obama too.

    and saying you got 30% in cherokee county is akin to uga touting a 30-10 victory in the second half last saturday, so what.

  39. John Konop says:

    Three Jack

    Nice dodge!

    Why not answer the question?

    I also warned about how out of control spending from Washington would ad to the problem via devaluation of the dollar. And when so called conservatives like you called me “chicken little” for pointing out the above problems was I right or wrong?

  40. Three Jack says:

    konop, i’m still waiting for you to answer my question.

    but i will go ahead and address yours briefly. spending on pork equals about $18b annually, a fairly small percentage of the $3T++ annual federal budget. while certainly an issue, it is a diversionary tactic to avoid addressing real problems involving trillions needed to cover entitlements like social security, medicaid, medicare and welfare. as i recall, you have no desire to reform and/or abolish these antiquated programs. so your bold prognostications are really pretty short sighted. thus i think you were wrong.

    add another trillion that this wipeout program will cost and the situation only becomes more debilitating when it comes time to pay the piper.

  41. John Konop says:

    Three Jack

    If you froze the budget like I proposed for 1 year the go forward is a much higher savings. I would suggest you read the Heritage foundation or Concord Coalition on budget issues to help you understand the concept. This is a similar concept of the “Rule of 78”

    We also have a concept in economics called opportunity cost. The money wasted on programs you support like math 123, No Child Left Behind, Farm bill, Highway bill……not only cost tax payers money but the money could have been used by business to create opportunities or better utilized by the government! The best example is bio-fuels this is very ugly looking in terms of opportunity cost. Do you need to understand why?

    As far as entitlements I did have a proposal for Social Security. I would let people over invest Social Security in guaranteed accounts tax free. We could create a fund to pay down the national debt instead of bowering money from places like China. As people built up savings we could fade them out of the Social Security program. If we combine this with a balance budget tax payers would have more money via the increased value in the dollar and savings. Also we could negotiate better deals by not being in hock to countries like China,Saudi Arabia…..

    As far as healthcare I have advocated for automation to drive down cost for years. We also must set up a system forcing people to pay for the service who can afford it. The current system encourages people not to pay which is a race to the bottom.

    The above is not the full solutions just a start in the right direction.

  42. Three Jack says:

    konop, how would you freeze entitlements?

    and i did/do not support math123, nclb, farm bill, etc.

    why would anyone over invest in a bankrupt program where they are already forced to invest. good god, how about under invest or let people opt out.

    seems government is your answer to everything. invest in ss, healthcare for all, when do you get around to letting individuals actually choose where they want to put their money?

    since you’re into suggesting reading materials, may i counter with my own suggestion that you dive into some milton friedman research.

  43. Doug Deal says:

    One of the things that people say about this bill is that it could potentially earn a profit since the debt could be sold at a price about what they pay for it (yeah right). Anyway, wouldn’t that be the raising of revenue? Further, aren’t their tax law changes in the bill?

    Doesn’t the Constitution require all bills that raise revenue to start in the House? If so, why can the Senate consider the new version before the House?

  44. kcordell says:

    Bowser, exactly which bill would that be? I asked the constitutional question earlier today and didn’t get a single answer.

  45. bowersville says:

    Go to Redstate.com and look at the tax break extension bills that are in the Senate bill and take your pick. Jeff Emanuel wrote the blog entry.

  46. bowersville says:

    Article 1, Section 7, Constitution of the United States of America

    …the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments of other bills…

  47. kcordell says:

    I see where Mr. Emmanuel says it’s a bill that passed back in March. I assume that he’s referring to the Wellstone Mental Health Bill. I just didn’t go back far enough.

  48. Doug Deal says:

    What’s the point of even having the Constitution, really. Let’s just let the most corrupt among us just make the rules up as they go along.

  49. John Konop says:

    Three Jack

    The idea is simple you would own the account.

    Three Jack

    As far as entitlements if you gave people an option to over contribute tax free in a trade down for Social Security payments many would jump on it. That would lower the forward obligation which would decrease the cost.

    And if people who could afford it paid for health insurance it would lower the cost to tax payers. And people who could not afford it at least paid a partial payment it would lower the cost.

    Your free lunch program does not work. And you talk out of both sides of your mouth. You support and work for candidates that you do not support via policy?

  50. What’s the point of even having the Constitution, really. Let’s just let the most corrupt among us just make the rules up as they go along.

    And 74 of them did just that, tonight.

    It’s time to start the recall petitions rolling for those who aren’t standing for re-election this year. And we know what to do to those who are running.

  51. Bill Simon says:

    Unfortunately, Taft, the previous “national education standards”, “state education standards” have ALL contributed to producing a majority of idiots in this state.

    They won’t get it. They are unable TO “get it.” They have been dumbed-down too much.

  52. Rick Day says:

    Why is it that supporters of a politico always call them by their first name, critics use their full name, then their last name, and flamers only use the last name?

    Why did the Senate see fit to vote on a bailout? Firstly for the sound byte, of course! And lastly the obvious – Senators are high value Jack Horners, with much long term funds invested in grooming said puppets by the financial sectors. Thirty days before they are kicked to the curb in the Great Political Purge of 2008 ™ their masters must elicit one last plum from the taxpayer pie.

    He stuck in his thumb, and pulled out a plum
    and said, “What a good boyah, am I”

  53. Three Jack says:

    konop, your big government, high regulation programs are about to be implemented. i guess we will find out if your ultra liberal, nanny-state ideas will work real soon.

    again, how would you freeze entitlements?

  54. John Konop says:

    Three Jack

    If after reading what I wrote and that is your reply no wonder Republicans like you got us 11 trillion in the red after bailout! God help us if you are the best and brightest coming out of college.

  55. Three Jack says:

    konop, how can a tax be tax free?

    you also played the classic democrat class warfare tool regarding healthcare. use government to force those who can “afford” it to pay for healthcare (as if they aren’t doing so now), then have the same people pick up the slack for those who “can’t afford” it.

    just like the current bailout deal, force those who can pay to pickup the slack for those who were ‘tricked’ into high cost home loans. reminds me of the basic tenet of marxism.

  56. John Konop says:

    Three Jack

    The truth is our emergency rooms are flooded with people using it for free health care. We can keep paying for it and watch the price go up and hospitals close and have people pay for it. Or we could use your idea and let them die.

    BTW is Romney a democrat?

  57. Three Jack says:

    ditto taft, at least with regard to his healthcare debacle in mass.

    stop letting them use the emergency room. most are not on their death beds konop. most are suffering from chronic sniffleitis.

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