Just a personal vent here, I have to say the problem with Baptists, other than the not drinking thing, is the organizational structure of most of the churches that let the preachers run roughshod over a lot of the congregation.
Yeah, yeah, in theory, the congregation can boot him, but most congregations are too intimidated or timid and don’t want to rock the boat.
I kind of like my Presbyterian set up where you have both deacons who deal with the physical church and elders who deal with the spiritual church, and the elders are on a pretty much level playing field with the preacher.
Of course messes can happen all over. But, and personal venting here I realize, I’m just frustrated for my wife’s family, which goes to a baptist church up in Carrollton and the preacher is driving the church into the ground and driving out the congregation. It’s sad when the congregation goes to Sunday School, but avoids the sermon because the preacher has decided he’s actually a “proclaimer” and would rather give feel good lectures than actually pull out a Bible and do some preaching. He’s in love with the processes in the church and not actually in love with the Lord — he’d rather anoint someone with oil or baptize someone than preach.
And naturally, when deacons he has not put on the board of deacons, dare to challenge him, he tells the congregation that there are devils among them they should not listen to.
Some preachers just need to be taken to the wood shed. And in my experiences in both Baptist and Presbyterian churches, it happens a lot more often in Baptist churches because Baptist church structures are typically conducive to preachers stacking the board of deacons and then turning their churches into self-promotion vehicles instead of Christ-promotion vehicles. And it sure is happening at Tabernacle up in Carrollton. Pitiful, pitiful.