So much for Free Speech

Apparently if the GOP stands in the square and holds up McCain signs, they’ll get arrested.

Meanwhile, Hall County Republicans have applied for a permit to have a rally of their own just outside the mountains center at Roosevelt Square.

Gainesville police Chief Frank Hooper said the party applied Wednesday for a special event permit at the square. Hooper said the city considers the square an extension of the Georgia Mountains Center and requires private groups to pay a rental fee.

He said applications for special events are normally filed 10 days in advance. Hooper stressed that the city did not deny a permit; however, the party must first make arrangements for the site through the Georgia Mountains Center.

29 comments

  1. When I was Chairman of the Gwinnett GOP we used to face goofy things like this from time to time. Dacula wouldn’t let us buy a booth at their fall festival. They said if they let us buy a booth, then the KKK would want a booth. So one year we just stood at the edge of the festival and handed out balloons and GOP literature.

    If the Georgia Mountain Center won’t let them stand on their property, stand across the street, or on a busy corner where all the attendees will drive by.

    There’s more than one way to skin a cat (oops, will PETA read this?).

  2. EAVDad says:

    It sounds like Gainesville is trying to ask everyone to play by the same rules. The Democrats got their act together and got the permit. The Republicans didn’t. Too bad for them.

    If the roles were reversed and the Dems were the ones trying to get their permit late you’d be writing in all caps. SEE? DEMOCRATS DON’T WANT TO FOLLOW THE RULES!

    Gimme a break

  3. Doug Deal says:

    I wonder if the key is the word “stands”. What if you are walking around on carrying the sign?

    What if you just claim you are part of the Democrat group, but that you just have a different sign that just so happens to be supportive of McCain. Carry an Obama sign as well, and if anyone asks, just say you support both, but you will carry the Obama sign later.

    These laws are pretty rediculous. If people get rowdy, cause a real disturbance or otherwise breach the peace, then arrest them for that. If we really support freedome of speech, no one should suppor thtis kind of crap, left or right.

  4. Burdell says:

    Erick, do you consider this sort of Time, Place, and Manner restriction to be unreasonable, or do you simply reject the doctrine of Reasonable Time, Place, and Manner Restrictions?

  5. Progressive Dem says:

    Ahhh free speech, how about the freedom to post something from the Democrats perspective on PP?

    Why isn’t there a front page post on the Democrats call for a special session of the legislature to deal with the looming budget crisis?

    “Perhaps most galling, when our country is fighting two wars, Governor Perdue believes it is acceptable to evict 81 veterans from the Georgia War Veterans Home in Milledgeville, for a savings of $2.7 million. Meanwhile, projects such as a $7.3 million horse park expansion at the Agri-Center in Perry and $19 million for the Go-Fish program, both in the Governor’s home county, continue to move forward.

    Seems like a worthy discussion.

  6. IndyInjun says:

    Hahahaha…

    The GOP gets the same treatment as it dished out to Ron Paul and his supporters and just listen to the whining!

    Y’all GOP voters must be the DUMBEST people on God’s green earth. The GOP plays the class warfare game and y’all are like puppets on a string, caterwauling about Obama’s $900 billion in new social programs, when YOUR Sec. of Treasury and Fed Chief just spent DOUBLE THAT AMOUNT with no vote of Congress!

    Of course YOU are happy because they aren’t raising taxes to pay for it and the $8 gas and $10 bread INFLATION TAX that will pay for it comes after McCain is sworn in.

    Old Indy has a new 20/20 rule. If you are a newly married couple of age 20, you will have to have $20 million to retire, courtesy of the GOP inflation tax.

    I hope McCain wins for the aftershocks of what the GOP has done to us all will mean EXTINCTION for your lousy party of THIEVES!

    Whine about that.

  7. Progressive Dem says:

    Taft, you got a discussion, a bill, AND a front page post:

    “Linder has harsh words for Pelosi and her “energy” bill.”

  8. Andre Walker says:

    Why isn’t there a front page post on the Democrats call for a special session of the legislature to deal with the looming budget crisis?

    Allow me to answer that question.

    The reason why the Republicans here at Peach Pundit don’t want to discuss the state’s budget crisis or the Democrats’ call for a special session of the legislature is because they don’t want to discuss why they claim to support our veterans while evicting 81 vets from the Georgia War Veterans Home in Milledgeville.

    The Republicans don’t want to discuss why, in these tough economic times, the first thing on the budgetary chopping block was education and medicaid and medicare and other programs that benefit Georgia’s working families.

    The Republicans here don’t want to discuss why the big utilities have a voice on the Public Service Commission but, because of budget cuts, the people’s voice was silenced.

    Essentially, the reason why we don’t see a discussion of Democratic issues here is because the Republicans know that they have failed.

    They’ve failed in their leadership. They’ve failed in their policies. They’ve failed to bring their own party together to work towards moving Georgia forward.

    And for a Democrat to highlight that over and over again serves to remind the Republicans of that fact. And that is why we don’t see a Democratic perspective on this site.

  9. StevePerkins says:

    When I was Chairman of the Gwinnett GOP we used to face goofy things like this from time to time. Dacula wouldn’t let us buy a booth at their fall festival. They said if they let us buy a booth, then the KKK would want a booth.

    Don’t be silly, in that case there would be no need. (I kid!)

  10. jsm says:

    “The Democrats got their act together and got the permit.”

    Really, EAV? You know that they got a permit? Can you show that they have one?

    “He said applications for special events are normally filed 10 days in advance. Hooper stressed that the city did not deny a permit; however, the party must first make arrangements for the site through the Georgia Mountains Center.”

    From Gainesville Code of Ordinances:

    “Sec. 6-7-22. To be peaceful and unattended by noise, etc.
    All assemblies and picketing shall be orderly, taking into consideration the rights of any residents in the immediate area of the demonstration or picketing to the peaceable enjoyment of their residences. To the extent that any residence is located within three hundred (300) feet of the location of any demonstration/picketing, the demonstrators or picketers shall not use any sound amplification system, except for one (1) hand-held bullhorn; provided, however, that no hand-held bullhorn may be used in any such demonstration or picketing between sundown and sunrise.
    (Ord. No. 92-39, § 1, 9-1-92)”

    “Section 6-7-28. Notice of proposed picketing or demonstrating.
    The chief of police is to be given at least eighteen (18) hours’ written notice of any person or persons planning to picket or demonstrate. This written notice shall include the name of the organization or organizations planning to picket and also shall include the names of the places of business or public facilities which will be picketed and the hours the picketing or demonstrating will be conducted.
    (Ord. No. 92-39, § 1, 9-1-92)”

    “Sec. 6-7-58. Deviation from prescribed streets, ways.
    It shall be unlawful for any person to conduct a parade, procession or demonstration along, upon or over any street or public way other than those set out in the permit issued as provided in this article.
    (Ord. No. 92-39, § 1, 9-1-92)”

    http://www.municode.com/resources/gateway.asp?pid=10820&sid=10

    Big difference between 10 days and 18 hours.

    “If the Georgia Mountain Center won’t let them stand on their property, stand across the street, or on a busy corner where all the attendees will drive by.”

    According to Sec. 6-7-58, it appears that we would still have to get the permission of the city along with the permission of the property owner, and it seems that the city is not inclined to allow us a permit.

  11. jsm says:

    I’ve been called worse, grift. We just want to let people know that we’re not sitting still while the democrats come to our neighborhood and peddle their welfare agenda. Apparently, the idea of us standing near the building holding signs and promoting our cause scares the city. How silly.

  12. kcordell says:

    The Georgia Mountain Center is not a private entity. It’s owned by the government. The tax payers have been subsidizing it for over 20 years.

  13. griftdrift says:

    Actually what it appears like is the Democrats managed to organize an event in which every major party member will participate and you guys couldn’t get you act together effectively enough to even march around with a few signs.

    Damn that hippie communist sheriff! When we the People Republic of Hall County ever learn about freedom!

  14. Abb Hayes says:

    My name is Abb Hayes, and I’m co-chair of the rally in Gainesville on Sunday and chair of the Hall County Democratic committee. We signed a lease of the GA Mountains Center arena months ago, as we have for the last three years, to hold our annual rally.

    Anyone who is interested, regardless of party affiliation, is welcome to attend. You can find out more details about the rally by clicking on the link to the Gainesville Times in the original post.

    As for the above comment by jsm – “We just want to let people know that we’re not sitting still while the democrats come to our neighborhood and peddle their welfare agenda” – this is a rally organized by people from north GA. I’ve lived in Gainesville my entire life, so I feel like it’s my neighborhood, although, as a Democrat, I’m definitely in the minority.

    Hope to see some of you on Sunday.

  15. jsm says:

    Yeah, grift. All 50 North Ga democrats will be there, and come November, we’ll see who’s got their act together up here.

  16. Jmac says:

    Damn jsm …you get counterpointed on a line of argument and your response is the equivalent of saying ‘my dad can beat up your dad.’

    (Which he can’t by the way since my dad rocks.)

  17. newdayinga says:

    This is too funny. JSM gets outwitted again. First by Strickland on the radio and then by Hayes on PeachPundit. Who is this Josh dude?
    You would think he is running for something.

  18. jsm says:

    How funny. A little tongue in cheek, and some of you want to make this into a schoolyard tussle.

    There was a day not too long ago that Republicans in Hall County could hold their meetings “in a phone booth,” quoting those who were building the party in those days. Now, we hold a commanding majority, because of the conservatism of the area demographically. John Lewis and Jim Martin do not represent the values of most North Georgians, and it is their message that we are speaking out against in our neighborhood.

    newday, I challenge you to get a transcript or a recording of my exchange with Strickland on the radio, and we’ll see who “outwitted” who. Strickland’s talking points just don’t add up.

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