Flashback: Rep. Steve Davis on John McCain

It is kind of funny for me to watch and listen to Republicans get so jazzed up over John McCain’s candidacy during the RNC. Just a few months ago many of these same folks were calling John McCain a liberal and a closet Democrat.

For instance, State Rep. Steve Davis (R-McDonough) in his blog said in the days before the Georgia primary that Senators Chambliss and Isakson were making a mistake by endorsing McCain, “a man that supports amnesty, voted against tax cuts, co-authored the unconstitutional campaign reform bill, is against the permenant repeal of the death tax, and wants to impose energy restrictions and regulations that would cripple the American economy.” Ahh, memories. Davis supported Romney.

What about all those other Georgia Republicans cheering at the convention this week who supported Romney, Huckabee, etc. and drawing the line in the sand before the primary about McCain?

55 comments

  1. Icarus says:

    Nice to quote a state rep to make this about GA politics.

    We’ve got about 10 threads open already so you dems can have your temper tantrum because you were outplayed on the VP pick.

    Can we get back to GA politics now?

  2. Rogue109 says:

    Okay, Decaturguy. I see you can’t keep your national politics under wraps much like She Who Must Not Be Named. Following rules just isn’t possible for you, is it?

    So, what does this have to do with Georgia politics, again?

  3. I freely admit I have problems with McCain. I posted on this blog how I would vote for flip-flopping Mitt Romney to try to prevent McCain from winning the nomination.

    McCain’s done some things that have made me really mad over the years. If he’s elected I’m sure he’ll do things that make me mad again. There’s no politician out there with whom I agree at all times.

    That being said, elections are about choosing from the options before you and there are only two candidates with a chance to win. Of those two McCain is far and away the best choice.

  4. Decaturguy says:

    The quotes and links in my post are about a Georgia State Representative and his comments about the Republican Primary back in February. It fits within the rule. You just don’t like what you hear. Sorry.

  5. Progressive Dem says:

    Decaturguy is just being a Maverick. Isn’t that your word for the week? Is Rep Davis supporting Barr?

  6. midtown_maven says:

    You have got to be kidding me.
    It’s called a primary, a convention and a nominee.
    Barack, Hillary and their supporters went after each other for 6 months. Including a few weeks in Georgia.
    It was all forgotten in Denver.

  7. Doug Deal says:

    midtown,

    And for the first time in modern history, opponents of the winning candidate (including the winning candidate himself) actually called the eventual nominee unprepared to serve as President. I see Decatur is not so eager to comment on that.

  8. jsm says:

    So after the primary is done, members of the Party set aside their differences and unite behind the elected nominee.

    What a shock!

  9. Chris says:

    I’ve got to agree w/ decaturguy on the pertinence of this post Icarus. Yes, it smack of post-Palin desperation, but it is Georgia related.

    Very few PeachPunditeers were in the McCain camp (Bull Moose’s enthusiasm made up for that deficit). I clearly recall my post endorsing Romney over McCain.

    That doesn’t mean when you look at the three choices for President the answer is clear. You’ve got a bitter ex-congressman pissed off at his party, who you have no idea what he stands for. You’ve got a half term senator looking to raise taxes and increase regulation. And you’ve got a guy who’s taking a hard line against pork, who voted against the Prescription Drug benefit (how many other GA Republicans did that? Saxby? Linder? Kingston?) and who “Has done more to undermine Republican Leadership than anyone else [Trent Lott] knows”.

    Even without Sarah Palin on the ticket it was an easy decision for me how I’d vote in November.

  10. Doug Deal says:

    (RB) Farris,

    Well stated, and that pretty much sums up my beliefs. McCain was my forth choice, but he is still head and shoulders above the candidates in the general election.

  11. Bill Simon says:

    Didn’t Palin say last night that Obama voted “Present” for 133 bills in Congress?

    Yeah, that’s SOME experience he has.

    He sounds more like The Manchurian Candidate

  12. John Konop says:

    I do think Palin gave a great speech last night. As with Obama they both had a few issues with facts but hey it is politics. And in fact I like Palin better than McCain.

    The problem with what I have seen so far is more about issues with McCain and parts of the GOP.

    I was stunned that the GOP was so supportive of No Child Left Behind. I was also stunned that reaching across party lines success like Education, Immigration, McCain-Feingold… are considered success for John McCain and the GOP. I just do not get it.

  13. Progressive Dem says:

    BS, I wouldn’t be bringing up the Manchurian candidate when that is a movie about a pow who is brainwashed while in captivity. Who does that sound like, again?

  14. Skeptical says:

    I think its funny that you guys think we Democrats are in despair over the Palin pick.

    Are you freakin’ kidding???????? You couldn’t smack this smile off my face if you tried to. I would call it a smirk, but I’ll leave the smirking to your current moron in chief and Mrs. Palin, who gave fine examples of smirking last night throughout her entire speech.

    She is a horrible choice. For Mr. Maverick, who wanted someone else, she was a hail mary pass that completely missed.

    When the public gets to really know this woman, she will go down spectularly in flames. Talk about some baggage!

    So no, we are not in the depths of despair over this brilliant pick. We are elated over the brilliance of its sheer badness!

  15. Three Jack says:

    ditto chris farris, well said.

    mccain was definitely not my first, second or third choice. but the dem convention convinced me of the importance of preventing them from getting the keys to 1600 pa ave. again.

    but i think i will cut the mccain name off my bumper sticker before placing it on my car. palin looks good all by herself.

  16. Wow, great continued discussion of….Rep Davis.

    then you’ll love this:

    BS and PD,

    My conspiracy friends probably love the fact that you brought up the “Manchurian candidate”

    Maybe it should be the Manchurian candidates

    Back in May the Politico’s Ben Smith wrote this:
    The only country where Mr McCain can rival his opponent’s popularity is in Russia, where anti-American feeling is strongest. The Republican appears to have made a striking impression on Russians, with 24 per cent saying they would vote for him if they could — a mere seven points behind Mr Obama.

    “Without one shot…” Hmmm.

  17. John Konop says:

    Speaking of Georgia Republicans this was not to smart. What was he thinking? What was the point?

    Westmoreland calls Obama ‘uppity’

    THEHILL- Georgia Republican Rep. Lynn Westmoreland used the racially-tinged term “uppity” to describe Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama Thursday.

    Westmoreland was discussing vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin’s speech with reporters outside the House chamber and was asked to compare her with Michelle Obama.
    “Just from what little I’ve seen of her and Mr. Obama, Sen. Obama, they’re a member of an elitist-class individual that thinks that they’re uppity,” Westmoreland said.

    Asked to clarify that he used the word “uppity,” Westmoreland said, “Uppity, yeah.”

    http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/westmoreland-calls-obama-uppity-2008-09-04.html

  18. CHelf says:

    Wasn’t John Lewis against Obama before he was for him? Or what about Biden? He more or less calls Obama completely unqualified to even be running but yet jumps on board the “Unqualified Train”.

  19. RuralDem says:

    As annoying as DG is, he does make a good point here, though, to be fair, its not limited to the GOP.

    People on both sides will back a candidate in the primary, then when that candidate drops out, they’ll suddenly and enthusiastically back the winner, though a few weeks ago that person was so bad.

    It’s sad. I can understand if you bashed McCain and now you’re voting for him because you think he’s better than Obama.

    However, I think it is hilarious to see all of these people who thought McCain was so terrible, yet, now they’re some of his biggest cheerleaders.

  20. Chris, you are correct. As in Russia and currently in the US, socialist commissions are formed to exclude in order to maintain irrelevancy of any opposing view points.

    If they weren’t afraid of Bob Barr becoming relevant, they would include him in the debates.

  21. Icarus says:

    I wonder if Rep Davis has seen THIS NEW POLL.

    I think it shows why the lefties have gone absolutely bat-sheet crazy since a certain VP pick.

    Notice it was Monday – Wednesday, which would presume all but possibly a few responses before Palin’s speech.

  22. Doug Deal says:

    Rural,

    I generally agree with you. Up until his pick of Palin, I was pretty down on McCain and only backed him because I felt that although he was flawed the Dems once again picked the candidate most likely to offend Republicans rather than the candidate best suited to lead the country.

    Palin change my opinion of him. Despite what the politico wanabees from the left say as they spewed unending venom her way, she is the very type of person that is needed in Washington. We have had too many Yale and Harvard uppity know-it-alls in Washington who think success is something that daddy wills you on his death bed. We have had too many lawyers who think of themselves as more clever than the rest of us, even though they rarely do much than act as economic drag. Finally, we had had enough of politicians who think they know how to run our lives better from Washington than we do in our own homes.

    I believe it was Einstein that said it is the very definition of insanity to do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result. How do we really expect a different Washington by electing the same lifelong office seekers like Obama and Biden?

    Not this time.

  23. Dave Bearse says:

    Lifelong office seekers like Obama and Biden?

    McCain-Palin collectively having been in office 42 years are about as much lifelong office seekers as Obama-Biden that have been in office 47 years.

    Palin, the youngest among them when first elected is indeed situated to be the most lifelong officeholder of the bunch.

  24. Doug Deal says:

    Dave,

    Biden was elected senator at 29. The minimum age to serve as Senator is 30. He graduated from Law School in 68, and didn’t pass the bar until 69. That gives him a grand total of 1 year of experience working a real career outside of politics or school. Yes, a veritable man of the people.

    Obama graduated with a BA in 1983, over the next five years, he worked 4 of them directly in some political capacity and one of them for a firm in helping businesses work overseas. Then, he entered law school in 88 and graduated in 91, where he then felt he was qualified to write a memoire. Until election to the legislature of Illinois in 1996, he worked as an attorney as well as serving in various political/community organizations. If you remove the time he spent in politics and his time as a student, that’s a sum total of 7 years as a regular working stiff.

    Have these guys done anything other seek office?

    McCain and Palin at least seemed to have something in mind other than one day being elected President. McCain was in the navy for 27 years, working his way up to Captain. (Already more executive experience than Obama would ever imagine).

    Palin, did not become a full time politician until she was appointed to the “Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission” in 2002. Up until that point she had to work besides fulfilling her role as mother and mayor. In case you didn’t know her and her husband own a commercial fishing business, and she also worked as a sports reporter. In any event, that’s over a decade in the private sector.

  25. Dave Bearse says:

    Doug:

    The Illinois State Senate is not a full time job either. Arguing the value of different experince is valid, but there’s just not enough difference timewise between elected service (nor private sector service either) between the pairs of candidates for the lifetime argument in my opinon to hold much water.

  26. Who has a pastor problem now?

    On July 20, 2008, the pastor of Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin’s home church, Larry Kroon, delivered a sermon called “Sin Is Personal To God.” Kroon, the senior pastor of the non-denominational Wasilla Bible Church in Wasilla, Alaska, used the book of Zephanaiah as his reference point for discussing “that great day of the Lord when God will finally bring closure to human history… a day of wrath.” According to Kroon, “all things and all people” are going to bear the brunt of God’s “intense anger.” “There’s anger with God,” he proclaimed. “He takes sin personal.”

    Kroon placed Zephaniah in a modern context, warning that the sinful habits of Americans would invite the wrath of God. “And if Zephaniah were here today,” Kroon bellowed, “he’d be saying, ‘Listen, [God] is gonna deal with all the inhabitants of the earth. He is gonna strike out His hand against, yes, Wasilla; and Alaska; and the United States of America. There’s no exceptions here — there’s none. It’s all.’”

    (Kroon’s sermon can be heard here; a full transcript is here.)

  27. She may have experience but that doesn’t mean she was a good executive.

    Debt Service Increased 69 Percent Under Palin.

    In fiscal 2003 — the last fiscal year Palin approved the budget — the total government debt service was $658,662. In fiscal 1996 — the year before Palin took control of the budget—the debt service was $390,385. The increase was 69 percent. [Wasilla Comprehensive Annual Financial Report 2003, Table 1]

    Palin Left Behind Almost $19 Million In Long-Term Debt, Compared to None Before She Was Mayor.

    In fiscal 2003—the last fiscal year Palin approved the budget—the bonded long-term debt was $18,635,000. In fiscal 1996—the year before Palin took control of the budget—there was no general obligation debt. [Wasilla Comprehensive Annual Financial Report 2003, Table 10]

    Long-Term Debt Was $3000 Per Capita When Palin Left, Compared to None Before She Was Mayor.

    In fiscal 2003—the last fiscal year Palin approved the budget—the bonded long-term debt per capita was $2,938. In fiscal 1996—the year before Palin took control of the budget—there was no general obligation debt. [Wasilla Comprehensive Annual Financial Report 2003, Table 10]

    When Palin Left Office, 6.24% of Government Spending Was On Debt Service, Compared to None Before She Was Mayor.

    In fiscal 2003—the last fiscal year Palin approved the budget—the ratio of debt service to general government expenditures was 6.24 percent. There was no long-term debt before she took office. [Wasilla Comprehensive Annual Financial Report 2003, Table 11]

  28. Even without Sarah Palin on the ticket it was an easy decision for me how I’d vote in November.

    Is this the same Chris Farris who heads up the Republican Liberty Caucus? Wow. Kool-aid, much? The RLC has come a long way, baby, since Ron Paul headed it up.

    This post by Decaturguy is very salient. Watching Georgia’s delegation at the RNC waste no time in puckering up and french-kissing McCain’s hole made my stomach feel like a butter-churn. This party should be ashamed of itself, and will soon learn what a horrible, horrible mistake it’s made.

    Clue number one should be the fact that most Republicans are supporting this ticket in the hopes that McCain will keel over on January 21, 2009, allowing a self-avowed feminist to take the helm.

    God help us. Let’s pray the GOP can come to its senses in 4 years – or maybe even 2 in Georgia.

  29. Chris says:

    This party should be ashamed of itself, and will soon learn what a horrible, horrible mistake it’s made.

    Any mistake the GOP makes in the future will pale in comparison to the mistake it made with its 2000 nominee.

  30. rugby fan says:

    Rat-bastard:

    What are your thoughts on the following?

    Are we allowed to ask questions about her tenure as mayor of Wasilla? Here’s a story from the Wall Street Journal, exposing just how fiscally and operationally reckless Palin’s mayorship of Wasilla was:

    The biggest project that Sarah Palin undertook as mayor of this small town was an indoor sports complex, where locals played hockey, soccer, and basketball, especially during the long, dark Alaskan winters.

    The only catch was that the city began building roads and installing utilities for the project before it had unchallenged title to the land. The misstep led to years of litigation and at least $1.3 million in extra costs for a small municipality with a small budget. What was to be Ms. Palin’s legacy has turned into a financial mess that continues to plague Wasilla…

    “I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a community organizer, except that you have actual responsibilities,” Ms. Palin said Wednesday in her acceptance speech at the Republican convention. Litigation resulting from the dispute over Ms. Palin’s sports-complex project is still in the courts, with the land’s former owner seeking hundreds of thousands of additional dollars from the city.

    When Palin took over Wasilla, the town had no long-term debt. By the time she was done, debt service had increased by 69 percent, the town had close to $19 million in long-term debt, making the debt around $3000 per capita. And the Mccain campaign is asking us – seriously – to consider her a fiscal conservative.

    She is a Bush-Cheney fiscal conservative: low taxes, unprecedented new spending, utter incompetence, endemic cronyism and massive debt.

    —-

    Palin supported and signed into law a $1.5 billion tax increase on oil companies in the form of higher severance taxes. One rule of thumb is that higher taxes cause less investment. Sure enough, State Tax Notes reported (January 7): “After ACES was passed, ConocoPhillips, Alaska’s most active oil exploration company and one of the top three producers, announced it was canceling plans to build a diesel fuel refinery at the Kuparuk oil field. ConocoPhillips blamed the cancellation on passage of ACES [the new tax]. The refinery would have allowed the company to produce low-sulfur diesel fuel onsite for its vehicles and other uses on the North Slope, rather than haul the fuel there from existing refineries.”

    There are good reasons for an oil-rich state to tax oil production, but a fiscal conservative would usually use any tax increase to reduce taxes elsewhere. Perhaps I’m missing something, but I see no evidence that Palin offered any major tax cuts. She did propose sending $1.2 billion of state oil revenues to individuals and utility companies in the form of monthly payments to reduce energy bills, but that sounds like welfare to me, not tax cuts.

    Palin has offered a few narrow or minor tax breaks, including:

    * A tax credit for film production in the state, offering about $20 million per year in breaks.
    * A cut in an annual business license fee from $100 to $25 (the legislature went half way to $50).
    * A one-year suspension of the state fuel tax to save taxpayers about $40 million.
    * A repeal of tire taxes to save taxpayers $2 million.
    * A tax credit for commercial salmon harvesting to save taxpayers about $2 million.

    That’s about it.

  31. Icarus says:

    “When Palin took over Wasilla, the town had no long-term debt. By the time she was done, debt service had increased by 69 percent”

    I quit reading here. If you increase zero by 69%, you still have zero.

    I think I liberal lefty reporter just wanted to prove to his buddies that he could get ’69’ in print past his editor.

  32. rugby fan says:

    That “liberal lefty” worked for that bastion of Communism, Marxism, and hatred of America, the Wall Street Journal.

    It even goes with Cato’s findings.

    Face it, she raised taxes, and increased the debt of Wasila. Republicans can find their conservative soul and denounce her for her actions, or prove to the world that there is no moral character left within the GOP, nor is there any room for a conservative.

  33. John Konop says:

    In Fairness

    Anchorage Daily News editorial: Hey, you know who’s been a pretty darned effective governor?

    HOTAIR-One of the more effusive back-handed compliments I’ve ever read, from a paper that’s well aware of her political faults. They’re not calling her a lightweight exactly, but it’s clear they think her interest in the nuts and bolts of policy is, let us say, insufficiently nuanced.

    Which makes their conclusion that she’d be a dynamite VP all the more surprising.
    Gov. Palin is not the kind of leader who gets bogged down in minutia and works 100-hours a week. Instead, she uses her charisma and a simple, clear vision to mobilize mass support for her agenda, then leaves the details and heavy lifting to others…

    As governor, she has focused almost exclusively on a handful of high-priority issues — ethics, oil tax reform and state incentives for building a natural gas pipeline. And she has had dramatic success. With Gov. Palin leading the way, the Legislature passed strong legislation on all three fronts. On two of those issues, she had to take on Alaska’s previously all-powerful oil industry. Twice she easily defeated them…

    One big surprise about Palin’s term as governor: She has been thoroughly bipartisan. Her most reliable supporters on her big three accomplishments have been Democrats. The partisan side that Palin showed in her acceptance speech Thursday is something Alaskans haven’t seen in her time as governor.

    Earlier this year, Palin told a cable news interviewer that somebody is going to have to tell her “what it is exactly that the VP does.” In some ways, the vice president’s job is a perfect fit for her. She wouldn’t have to run the country. She could focus on a handful of high-profile issues, inspire people with her passion and star power, and try to accomplish a few great things.

    read more

    http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/07/anchorage-daily-news-editorial-hey-you-know-whos-been-a-pretty-darned-effective-governor/

  34. Any mistake the GOP makes in the future will pale in comparison to the mistake it made with its 2000 nominee.

    It’s time to play “Name That NeoCon!” For 100 points: the GOP nominates someone who claims to be a conservative, but conservatives don’t trust him, until he picks someone they all consider to be “very conservative” as his running mate. As it turns out, once again, the GOP base is suckered into voting for RINOs and NeoCons!

    Are we talking about Bush I/Quayle, Bush II/Cheney, or Bush III McCain/Palin?

    [cue Jeopardy theme music…]

  35. Doug Deal says:

    (Bob) Taft Republican,

    How long do you have to scrub yourself to feel clean again after prostituting yourself out to the Obama camp? You keep spouting their talking points and memes, straight from your inbox, but I am sure you die a little inside as you cry yourself to sleep each night.

  36. LOL. Funny.

    The only time lately I’ve felt like I needed a deep scrub – and I mean, like Dawn Treader/Eustace/Dragon’s Island deep scrubbing – was in the middle of kool-aid drinking Republicans who have forgotten what their party once stood for: limited government, individual liberty, national sovereignty, free markets, sound money, and non-interventionist foreign policies.

    Obama is a Marxist who should never have made it as far as he has politically, but that fact that he has is a testimony to the depths that the Socialist Democrat Party has sunk. As if they could sink any lower.

    But our party has sunk pretty low, too. Remove your blinders, and you’ll admit that it must have, in order to nominate someone like John McCain. It’s time to bring our party back to its roots. I hope it’s not too late.

  37. Doug Deal says:

    TR,

    I have long criticized the GOP for its problems for years. I hated GW Bush since the day he was selected to be the front-runner in 1999 for the 2000 election.

    The sad fact is that as bad, incompetent, destructive, self-serving and corrupt as the Republicans have been, the Democrats are on a whole different level in every regard.

    If the Democrats would stop playing games with the courts, I could sit an election out, or even vote for a third party. However, due to the long term destructive influence that partisan hack judges do to the country, there is no option but to fight the Dems tooth and nail every election.

    This is one reason that I was so happy McCain picked Palin as VP. I am sick of anyone tied to Washington in any way from either party, and I am sick of the empty suits like Pawlenty or Perdue that occupy most governorships.

  38. I have long criticized the GOP for its problems for years. I hated GW Bush since the day he was selected to be the front-runner in 1999 for the 2000 election.

    But you’re willing to call me an Obama camp prostitute for pointing out the truth about what the GOP has done to itself? Nice.

    So are you admitting that you’re now willing to vote for McCain the RINO in the hope that he’ll drop dead on January 21, 2009, so that an avowed feminist can take over? I’ve had a hard time getting most of the kool-aid drinking “conservatives” (LOL) to own up to that.

  39. Doug Deal says:

    Taft,

    I have no issue with people pointing out the problems in the GOP, I only have a problem when they overlook and give a pass to the problems on the Dem side while criticizing the GOP.

    I will attack what looks like hypocricy mercilously. (For example, my disputes with boyreporter, decaturguy, konop, and pd, or on the other side, my disputes with jsm, BG Icarus and some others.)

  40. Indeed. And I will continue to ridicule the ridiculous. If you know what I mean. 🙂

    I will never “give a pass” to the Dems on anything. I operate on the assumption that everything that party does now borders on having its own listing in DSM III.

    I also used to operate on the assumption that the GOP was conservative overall, and that its leadership believed in principles of traditional conservative values that the GOP had held dear for so long.

    That is no longer an assumption I operate on. Which is why I support any attempt to bring the GOP back to its roots.

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