From a few minutes ago:
I don’t understand if you are Sara Palin how you can whine about being treated unfairly by the media or elites, or whatever, but then every other word out of your mouth in your convention speech is condescending comments and personal attacks against Barack Obama.
She might fire up “the base,” and I’ll grant you that, but she isn’t winning any converts I can assure you of that.
Our base can beat your base.
I think your wrong. An Obama supporter just called me and stated that he was considering changing his vote.
I think the speech was great. She tore Obama apart.
I am banking on the republican base definitely beating the republican base. I see the dems shakin’ in their shoes now, and this disability advocate right here, is damn near falling out of her cheer. Do you realize how many people she connected with that have disabled children. 1 out of 150 kids have autism in this country. Y’all need to think about that for 1 second.
oops. i mean the repub base beating the dem base.
Maybe, but your candidates smug arrogance and condescention towards a candidate who received the Democratic nomination in a tough primary fight and beat Hillary Clinton with 18 million votes is not going to win over any Democrats and is going to turn off Independants. So, you’ve managed to unify your party to rally around a Presidential nominee that just a few months ago you thought was a liberal. Congratulations. But at what cost?
WOW. The guy backing Obama/Biden just accused Palin of smug arrogance and condescention. That’s pretty rich.
I am banking on the republican base definitely beating the republican base..
We’re special like that.
Wow. I’m speechless.
Because I’m speechless, I’ll say — one of the greatest speeches by a conservative in a very long time. Man it feels good to have conservative, articulate leaders.
Decaturguy, What you fail to realize is that Obama has been a production of the media. Your Party munched down on the cotton candy and soda pop and failed to realize substance.
This woman is phenomenal!! From the moment of her introduction Friday until tonight’s speech she has continually kicked the big O in the proverbial groin.
I can only envision the emails and conference calls that are going on between his minions.
After getting no bounce from his convention and being highjacked by Friday’s announcement, it doesn’t look good.
Talk of arrogance. Did you here Obama’s speech today trashing McCain? The man that wants to be Commander in Chief, who has never wore the uniform, never experienced torture, his arrogance is revolting.
If I were a betting man, I would be putting my money on McCain/Palin. These folks know America and connect well.
I laughed, I cried, and I saw a leader we can be proud of….that woman rocks! The boys in Washington, and the elite press better watch out, remember she can handle a gun….LOL
And how many verbal gaffes has Biden made, and the condascention card is well…..LAME.
You all don’t get it when a woman, a repub woman no less, can hold her own. Guess what, we don’t shy away from a challenge and yes, we work hard, we play hard and guess what, we are not afraid to shake up establishment either.
Let me tell you something decaturguy, this gal has singlehandedly rallied support from those in the disability community.. I just got about 40 emails in my box from people who are totally jazzed up ..for their kids. These are regular working moms who have kids with DS, autism, learning disabilities.. Rally rallly rally, watch the bump in the polls in a couple of days.
Talk about arrogance. Check this out. Obama wants to bring charges against the Bush administration. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/sep/03/uselections2008.joebiden
“””Democratic vice-presidential nominee Joe Biden said yesterday that he and running mate Barack Obama could pursue criminal charges against the Bush administration if they are elected in November.
Biden’s comments, first reported by ABC news, attracted little notice on a day dominated by the drama surrounding his Republican counterpart, Alaska governor Sarah Palin.”””
Just spectacular! Now you can see why the Democrats and their media sycophants have been frothing at the mouth the last few days. They’re scared to death and rightly so.
She gave a strong speech – hit the dem’s hard, pushed for domestic energy, and introduced her newly extended family.
What was striking was how well she delivered the speech. Clearly, she has been rehearsing with teleprompters.
It’s going to be an exciting election; and no matter who wins, we’ll be entertained.
Dimocrats are going to be SO F*CKED this November 4th!
they know it so the all out war against sarah is ramping up.
i hope she is ready, this is going to be one hell of a characater assassination campaign led by obama, dkos and msnbc.
So what’s the talking points email say now? Well, we’re waiting. I hope you don’t think that “She didn’t write her own speech” line is going to work. One of “Obama’s” best speeches was stolen from another politician. Biden also likes to steal speeches without attribution too.
Decatur, slow down.
The Dems jumped on the baby story – KABOOM
The speech was a touchdown and you’re trying to score a TD on the next drive.
Give it 48 hours.
Remember it took Obama six months to kill off Hillary. Republicans are more patient in national elections.
this is going to be one hell of a character assassination…worked for Fleming.
That lady is exactly what she said she is, “a pit bull with lipstick” that will bite your leg off and smile with a glee in her eyes. She’s tough.
She dumbfounded the Obama campaign so bad that the only statement they could offer, “a speech written by a Bush speech writer.”
What about the frontier woman from Wasilla? Probably never saw that many people in one place before in her life. The audacity of that woman stepping up to the plate and hitting a grand slam home run on her first at bat in the big leagues.
I normally just read and never post here but with that last statement of yours…you’ve got to be kidding me…
As someone who works extremely closely with the disabled community and its activist/advocacy groups, I can promise you that Barack Obama is the candidate getting the support of this energized community.
We recognize that the GOP has stunted the growth of disability reforms at both the state and federal level, as well as limiting home health supports and research initiatives.
Just because Sarah Palin has a child with a disability, that does not make her an advocate for the disabled…and she’s still not at the top of the ticket. McCain has been no friend to our policies and we see little reason why that would change.
What struck me most by the night was the lack of the concept of reality by most of the speakers. They spoke of “big government Washington” as if the Republican Party has not controlled almost every branch of government for the past 25 years or more.
There’s no doubt the GOP blew the opportunity it was given. They did not live up to their small government positions and thus no longer control the Congress and may not control the WH next January.
I have differences with McCain on some things but I don’t with his track record of opposing the wasteful spending that both parties have engaged in. Picking Palin reinforces McCain as the maverick and provides McCain/Palin with a much stronger track record of change than Obama/Biden have.
You can’t let the Dems off the hook though. The promised to do away with earmarks and instead threw out the normal committee process on many bills. They should pay a political price as well.
I wonder…will that hack Karen Handel try to disqualify Obama from the General Election ticket…or just challenge he registrations of all of his voters?
I would not put either past her…she cares nothing for democracy, our republic, or the people of this great country.
This woman can bring out the base. So what.
Thanks to 8 years of Bush, a never ending war, a whithering economy and GOP corruption – the Republican base has schrunk like Dick Cheney’s testicles on a cold winter hunting trip. If this is a contest of who gets out the base, Democrats win in a walk.
The voter in play is the independent suburban woman. The VP pick is not very significant in her choice. In the past national seurity was a deciding factor, but now it is economic security. Poll after poll says that people trust the Democrats more with the economy than the Republicans.
She was a bad pick. Deal with it.
All I know, Buzz, is that the Republican Party has controlled the executive branch of government for 28 of the last 40 years and yet they rail against government as if someone else had been in control all of those years. I don’t understand how you can run as the party against government, when you have become the party of government.
It is also laughable when you hear people like Mitt Romney (who proved last night he’s no Ronald Reagan) rail against “liberal” Supreme Court decisions. His party has appointed 7 of the 9 Justices on the Supreme Court.
Let’s look at where we are
Last night the Dems wanted Palin to flop:
In Denver the Reps wanted Obama to get no bounce.
So far both conventions have been successful.
Unless your a partisan….
Peggy Noonan calls Palin pick: Political Bullsh*t and Mike Murphy calls it cynical.
Already addressed on another thread, PD:
You guys can relax a bit. Your effort to “Bork” her didn’t work so well. Time to focus on letting the voters decide.
Ben Stein says Sarah Palin needs a babysitter.
peggy noonan and the fat hobbit murphy personify political bullsh*t.
So, does Jason Pye get his talking points from the DNC or Obama campaign too? The truth is she is not what she claims.
Jason works for Bob Barr. Do you think it benefits him to have the Republicans viewed as supporting small government again?
Do you expect the Republicans to give an unbiased view of Obama? Why would you think the Libertarians would do the same for McCain’s ticket?
Typical liberal nonsense.
I’m with Icarus.
Time for the voters to decide.
I think we can all trot out little bull**** snippets hacking and attacking each side. If you want to keep doing it fine.
It’s the lazy man’s politics.
and neither is your guy, wanna explain that tax plan he has in store for ALL taxpayers. Keep it real decaturguy, betcha you can’t.
(THE USA) – The Democrats have figured out that they are SO F*CKED they cannot do more than spin in their own goo.
More breaking news later…
What needs to happen is insurance reform and frankly I don’t hear much talk of that from either party, unfortunately. I am admittedly a republican and have worked vigorously on education rights for disabled children in public schools. I am not your typical ‘right winger’ as some in media or in the left try to portray us. When the Republicans picked a candidate who has a record of shaking up the ‘status quo’, I see that as a good thing for disabled children, should the mccain/palin ticket win. I don’t believe for one second that Obama’s plan, with the government breathing down everyone’s back, is going to fix the significant challenges that every disabled Americans face every day. There must be some bi-partisan way to fix health care without ALL of us being punished through captial gains taxes and repeal of present tax cuts (yes the disabled community will feel that too). The first being, an enormous cut in spending, maintain the tax cuts so our incomes remain intact, and empower the disabled community to access community and faith-based supports, and insurance reform. Let’s stop cutting out children with Autism and long-term chronic disability. It’s the insurance company’s that are raping the us citizens.
All you have to do is look at each candidate’s website to get a good look at their plans for health insurance coverage.
Obama supports regulations on insurance carriers who currently can charge whatever they want for health coverage with no maximum on their drug tiering system, John McCain, on the other hand, supports HSA’s (which are fine, if you’re healthy) and that’s about it, meaning he has little to no plan for REAL health insurance reform.
That’s a bit ominous to me and alot of the constituents we serve.
I agree that healthcare absolutely should be one of the main topics of discussion, far more so than energy.
But McCain doesn’t even see the problem.
It’s a bit off putting to alot of people that can’t access health care due to pre-existing conditions and the like.
God forbid a company “charges as much they want” to provide a service. That’s a marvelous idea; the government needs to have national pricing boards to set the prices on everything. As far as I remember, that was straight out of the pages of Adam Smith.
We can then lobby to have the government lower the price of things we like, such as arugula, and raise the price on things like beef to get those evil meanie non-vegans.
Price controls never work and are perhaps only appropriate when the government has created a monolopy. Of course it is a liberal who suggests such a nutty idea for health care. As much as liberals claim that the Republicans are anti-science, Economics is at least as much of a science as Biology. Yet Democrats still hold disproven economic beliefs that are about as quaint as abiogenesis, alchemy or the flat earth.
Kyle, we agree on a few points. We have to urge our lawmakers to disallow ‘opting out ‘ of insurance too. I see this as a problem. And make insurance reform a top priority. Let Washington power brokers STOP using lobbyists to drive the health care market. This is where I break rank with the repubs, this issue. We must make insurance portable and stop these ‘doughnut holes’, which can easily be helped with not allowing ‘opt outs’ for healthy people. We have got to keep the free-market intact though, so innovation in health care and health care insurance options will flourish. But watch those taxes from Obama, he will take away the ability of the people to purchase health care too, I don’t know if the disability community will understand their income will shrink too.
I’m going to give you a couple of hypothetical situations, you tell me what you’d do…
Let’s say you’re unable to work due to being diagnosed with a disease, like say MS, or CP…
COBRA continuing coverage benefits can cost anywhere starting at 600 per month, which will only last 18 months by the way, and no private insurance carrier will even touch you.
Not many people can afford that COBRA coverage on top of everything else they have to pay for, particularly if they cannot work and are waiting for an SSDI decision (reaching a 3 year wait period in Georgia alone) You are also ineligible for Medicare due to having to wait 2 years on SSDI before that eligibility kicks in.
So what do you do? Get rid of all your assets that you rightfully earned so you can be eligible for Low-income Medicaid? Go to charity care at Grady? Die off?
Or let’s say this…you take Tysabri for Crohns Disease. For the past two years, you’ve been used to paying around 30 dollars per month as a co-pay, now all of a sudden because of the drug tiering system, you now have to pay anywhere between 30-70 percent of that drug’s cost which is a decision up to the discretion of the provider.
What would you do? Particularly if you live paycheck to paycheck like most Americans.
It’s just an issue of fairness Doug, people are going without because of these skyrocketing costs or the inability to get adequate healthcare and thats not something to be ignored.
Agreed. It’s just a matter of getting ineligible people the healthcare they need.
There’s a difference between that and Hilarycare/Romneycare.
Unfortunately, big money lobbyists outpower us little guys pretty often on this issue. It’s the same reason we can’t get a high risk assignment system started in this state.
Here is McCain’s Health Care Plan from his website…. it looks like portability is one of the hallmarks of his plan. I hope you read it and consider.
BTW, I know exactly what it is like to children and adults in my family with chronic debilitating illness and the exclusions that insurances impose.
Here ya go:
here is McCain’s health plan from his website:
i do understand the scenarios you pointed out, my family has experienced similar stuff, there are many people facing bankruptcy because of medical bills, unless you pay an attorney to appeal insurance insurance decisiions, which is a 50/50 shot of winning a decision on an appeal, health care is slipping away from the average american.
here’s mccain’s health care plan
john mccain’s health care plan
It stops being fairness, when you use the guns of the state to force others to provide you with your positive “rights”. I posted a several page plan that addresses a number of issues with our current health plan, but I doubt readers want a complete rehash. I will give a summary.
The government should be there as an insurer of last resort for catastrophic issues. In an ideal world, this should not be necessary, but we’re not there, so here it is.
Health insurance should be decoupled completely from employment. Every penny spent on health related costs should be deductible from income, including prescribed medications and insurance premiums.
Pooling should not be allowed to take into consideration current health status, only things like zip code, state, and maybe age (limited to say “over-45” for the highest level. This means to do business, an insurance company would have to take all comers in a particular area and charge everyone the same rate if they fall into the same age bracket.
To prevent people from only buying insurance when they are sick, coverage should work on a tiered coverage system. For example, the first year, only 25% is covered, for the second year, 50% and so on. Companies will be able to waive this requirement as they see fit for competitive advantage.
Medicare/aid would give vouchers payable to private insurance companies to provide for a basic level of service. No more government acting as an insurer. This will allow Medicare patients to shop around for the coverage that suits them, but also allows them to pay more out of their own pocket for additional care.
The monopoly of medical doctors would come to an end. It will be legal to provide primary care as a physician assistant or nurse practitioner. A four year specialized degree will be the only requirement to provide this level of service.
Prices for any and all non emergency care will be posted up front. None of this care now, surprises later type of system that we have now. Each patient will also be required to pay for routine care, and insurance will once again become insurance and not a payment plan for maintenance. (Companies will be free to offer that at their own discretion however). We do not get insurance to fill our fuel tanks, replace a light or change our oil, it is not appropriate for health insurance to pay for comparable things either.
No insurance company will be required to pay 100% of any procedure (although they can by choice). Keeping prices down means requiring patients to shop around. The only way to do that is if some choices cost more than others. Otherwise, why not go to the most expensive provider every time?
There are some details that I am not 100% comfortable with, but the answer is in the one theme that I tried to follow. Less government involvement in health care, more consumer choice. Both reduce costs and improve service.
I’d love to see the full version of your plan. It looks very well thought out, I’d be interested to read the additional details.
Can you shoot me a link or point me to where I can find it?
I think I posted it to PP about a year or two ago. If I get a chance I will post it to that poor excuse of a blog that I have.
I know it has flaws, and it is not something anyone who is an purist from an idealogical standpoint would support, but unless all sides are willing to compromise to some degree, nothing will ever be done.
If you want it as its own topic, send it to me, and I’ll post it up front.
…And about that nutjob that tried to storm the stage during the convention last night. She’s a top Obama fundraiser.
I will post something tonight, for nothing else than to have everyone tear it apart. Basically, when I play darts, I like to play goalie.
It would be cool to feature John McCain’s Health plan too, it’s all on his website. here:
Okay, so I lied, I didn’t post it. My baby son got pneumonia this past weekend, and has been sick this week. Instead I held him until he went to sleep.
I hope all gets better soon Doug. Sending best wishes your way.
Thanks. I appreciate it.
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