The Friday Dear Lord Please Let McCain Pick Sarah Palin Open Thread.

Speculation now centers on Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as McCain’s VP pick. I’m in hopeful anticipation that this news is correct.

Consider this an open thread.

UPDATE: Glenn Beck is about to replay an interview he did with Palin. For those outside the Metro Area you can listen online at WGST.com

Update by ChrisF: CNN & Fox are confirming Palin. Woot!

Update from Buzz: About Sarah Palin: Here, here, here, and here.

Another Update from Buzz: Read this from Jim Geraghty at NRO

91 comments

  1. Doug Deal says:

    I am with you Buzz.

    I really like that pick. For the first time in my lifetime, a pick for the future of the party and not a reward to some hack or a compromise with a political enemy.

  2. odinseye2k says:

    “a pick for the future of the party and not a reward to some hack…”

    I can see how there are very few VP picks available to the GOP this year…

  3. North Ga Indy says:

    Ugh, McCain could have picked someone better such as Richard Burr, Eric Cantor, Phil Gramm, Bobby Jindal, Joe Lieberman, Tim Pawlenty, Rob Portman, Tom Ridge, John Sununu and John Thune.

  4. Icarus says:

    ABC is on air with it now, and I just spoke to my CNN contact who says it’s a done deal.

    It’s a good day to be a Republican.

    (When was the last time you were able to say that with a straight face?)

  5. Doug Deal says:

    NGI,

    Rob “To Close to Bush” Portman, or Tim “Let’s silence Global Warming Skeptics” Pawlenty, or Tom “Homeland Security” Ridge, or John “Can’t even win his own Senate seat” Sununu, or Eric “Who?” Cantor?

    Oh, those would have been soooooo much better.

  6. Doug Deal says:

    Icarus,

    Hear hear. I haven’t been this happy since 94, and before that, our President used to preface everything he said with the word “Well”.

  7. onthefence says:

    I think he made a wise decision. It’s a great countermove to the Obama ticket. Although, she lacks “experience” per se. I think having a woman, whose young, likeable, married and has five children, strong work ethic, strong political stance, etc. only works in McCain’s favor.

  8. John McCain has picked someone on par with the level of experience Obama has. Does this mean he will drop the Obama is inexperienced line? How does this help the theme of the McCain campaign which is “I have all the experience in the world, no one is more experienced than John McCain”.

  9. North Ga Indy says:

    Don’t forget Phil “Nation of Whiners” Gramm, Joe “Independent” Lieberman, and John “Screw You, Democrats” Thune.

  10. Icarus says:

    I’m pretty sure McCain will drop that line about the time Obama drops the Washington Insider/Been In the Senate too long argument, given that Biden has been in the Senate about a decade longer than McCain.

  11. jsm says:

    My only concern so far with Palin is whether she’ll be prepared to win the top spot when McCain’s time is up.

  12. Jmac says:

    OK, but seeing how a large part of McCain’s argument is that Obama lacks the experience, this pick nullifies that line of reasoning … more so than Obama picking someone with experience in Washington.

    Putting someone on the ticket who has 18 months under her belt in the governor’s seat and two terms on the Wasilla City Council as the extent of her political track record undermines any sort of experience argument.

    Accept this for what it is … a political pick, not a governing one. John Kerry took John Edwards for the same reason in 2004.

  13. MountainThinker says:

    And all God’s people said….

    AMEN!

    She’s not perfect, but she’s a good solid pick all-in-all making political sense while not being a betrayal of our values as Republicans as some picks certainly were…

  14. Demonbeck says:

    Doug,

    Welcome to 1996, old GOP Senator with a younger veep pick loses to a fresh-faced Democratic nominee with a Washington insider veep pick.

    Sound familiar?

  15. jsm says:

    The difference here is that the1992 and 1996 dem veep pick was not controversial enough to have convention delegates say they would not vote for the party nominee.

  16. And in 1992 and 1996 there were some glimmers of hope for the Republicans.

    Right now the only thing going for Republicans is hope that their VP pick will defeat the most charismatic and skilled candidate in several generations.

  17. Doug Deal says:

    Demon,

    We would have had the old man anyway. However, I think this will energize the party and perhaps change the game for the future.

    Clinton actually had experience as Governor and an innate political sense that few can match. But, remember before Ross Perot wierded out, he was running a distant third, and there was talk that the Democrats would not get enough votes to remain a political party in several states.

    It was not until the great wedding conspiracy of 1992 that Clinton took a lead in the polls, and he clearly would have lost if Perot had stayed out.

    In ’96, the success of ’94 doomed the GOP’s chances as they created the conditions for the infamous triangulation strategy. If McCain had picked Pawlenty, then we would have pretty much been watching Dole picking Kemp over Kasich and admitting defeat.

    Demon, one way or another, this is a game changer, one that will tip the status quo in a new direction, which is what pretty much everyone besides Karl Rove wants.

  18. Demonbeck says:

    With Rob Portman, Mark Sanford, Charlie Crist, Richard Burr and Kay Bailey Hutchinson all out there, this is what we end up with? Someone from Alaska, the state that brought us the Bridge to Nowhere? The state that gets more funds per capita than any other state in the nation? Of course she is going to be anti-pork, because the people who voted her in live off of it.

    I am sorry, I hope my mind is changed, but this does not do a thing for me.

  19. Icarus says:

    Another difference between now and 1992 is that there isn’t a viable 3rd party candidate.

    (Clinton never received 50% of the vote, you remember)

  20. Demonbeck says:

    Buzz,

    Joe Q. Public doesn’t know that and Joe Q. Public is going to decide this election.

    Like I said, I hope I am wrong, but I think this is a bad choice.

  21. “Demon, one way or another, this is a game changer”

    WHAT? That is a joke right? You think Palin is going to defeat a juggernaut? Are you serious?

    How? She’s been a virtual nobody up until a few weeks ago!

    You honestly think she has the ability to stop a candidate raising hundreds of millions of dollars (and exponentially more than McCain does), packs arenas everywhere he goes (when McCain can’t give away tickets), has hordes of volunteers ready to do his bidding, has hundreds of staffers and dozens of offices in states like Georgia?

    Are you serious?

  22. murray says:

    As a Democrat I applaud McCain’s choice. He wants to make experience an issue? Fine. Palin has yet to finish her first term as governor of a state with something like 200 people living in it. Before that? Mayor of Wasilla. Now there’s a logical stepping stone to the most powerful political office on earth. McCain–should we be so unfortunate as to see him elected–would be the oldest first-term president in history. He’s old, he’s diseased and the chances of his completing a single term of office are rather sketchy at best–so, who waits in the wings to take up power and guide this great nation? The mayor of Wasilla. Way to wax presidential, Senator McCain! I think a few more Beach Boy covers are in order–how about ‘North to Alaska”? It worked for Elvis. He’s dead you know.

  23. murray says:

    I’ll take Biden over a whole army of mayors from Wasilla. If McCain had a working brain, he would have chosen someone from (the formerly) industrial midwest or from a key southern state. Does that mean that McCain is so certain of the south that he can run with a first-term governor from a state no population? Apparently so. He’s in a for a big big shock. In a few months he’s have plenty of time to count his houses.

  24. Doug Deal says:

    rugby,

    McCain was going to win this anyway. I meant a game changer in that it will change the status quo in the future. Despite the years of promisses from the Dems, the GOP is actually going to elect a woman to the second highest office in the land. Which party is truly the party of the glass ceiling.

    Plus, she is actually a governor/mayor and not some lifetime legislator. As governor, YOU are on the spot, legislators hide from the bad and claim credit for the good and in general lack real character. Good or bad, the Governor’s name is on everything that happens in the state government.

    She is more qualified that Obama to be chief executive, and she is just the VP. What leadership has Obama ever demonstrated?

  25. “McCain was going to win this anyway.”

    I’d love to hear your opinion on November 5th.

    So let me ask you what issues McCain will call on Palin for advice?

    You are actually the first person to speak about the benefits Palin will have in governing.

  26. c_murrayiii says:

    I think it is a wonderful choice, and McCain must have been listening back in May when I said this would be a great choice. She is youthful, meaning she can carry the Party banner in the future, and she is a true social and FISCAL conservative, she attacks government, even from the inside, when it is a burden and just wrong. And honestly, picking a woman, pure genius.

  27. murray says:

    Yes, let’s hear about Palin’s mountain of experience. She may have submitted one budget–a budget that’s almost entirely supported by federal handouts. Real tough. And as mayor of Wasilla, she had tough choices to make: can we afford to repair our snow plow?

    Has McCain ever run a state government, rugbyfan? While I do agree with you that he lacks character; let’s just switch things around then–give the presidential nomination to Palin.

    This is getting better ever minute.

  28. Doug Deal says:

    rugby,

    The fact that she is rabidly anti-pork for one. Who do you think closed down the bridge to nowhere?

    If you think it is just talk, I will put $100 down right now, if you find someone trustworthy and neutral to hold it so you don’t come up with some excuse and back out later.

  29. murray says:

    Here’s something else to chew on–especially for those of you who think that Palin will attract women voters: McCain had many choices when he sought a woman as his running mate. Why this one? A former beauty queen and small town mayor? Good choice. If I were a woman this choice would insult me. Heck, it insults me anyway.
    Imagine this: 9/11 redux and Palin is president. I’m sure that North Korea, Russia and Iran are quaking–Bin Laden is probably laughing his butt off (can I can that?) as I write this.
    If these two nimrods win office we should all be very very afraid.

  30. Bill Simon says:

    WOW! I, for one, am not so easily impressed by any political candidate…but, I just saw the speech by Palin and she spoke without a tele-prompter! Where is Obama without one? Stuttering like Bush.

    She is so much smarter than Obama and could easily kick his and Biden’s rear-ends in a debate.

  31. They’re main difference in drilling in ANWR. I hope McCain asks advice on this issue.

    What advice will Barak ask Biden?

    How many Indians does it take to run a Dunkin Donuts?

    How to plagiarize speeches without being caught?

    How to stay “clean?”

  32. c_murrayiii says:

    Yeah, and if Obama gets elected expect Israel to be gone in 4 years and Russia to have taken over Ukraine, Georgia, and anything else they want.

  33. GOPeach says:

    I am SO VERY HAPPY SARAH PALIN is the PICK! Deep down inside, I really wanted her to be the pick …. but I did not think she wanted it. I surprises me that she has THE OVARIES to step up to the plate! I LOVE IT!!!!

    I am really glad!!! She is so much better than CONDI! FINIALLY a FEMALE CONSERVATIVE LEADER!!!! WOW WOW WOW!!!! How very exciting!!!!!!

    This is GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT news!

    The Militant McCain paired with the MATERNAL Palin is a GREAT FIT!

    McCain is SMART! VERY SMART!

  34. tb says:

    She has a child with downs’ syndrome. I say this is great for anyone in this country that is having a hard time accessing education, and health care for disabled children. Moms and families will identify with her. Hands down.

    GEORGIA HAS BEEN AN ABYSSMAL FAILURE FOR GEORGIA’S DISABLED CHILDREN!!!

  35. tb says:

    Nope, I am not GOPeach. I am a republican in north metro Atlanta, Fed up with Georgia Politicians. It’s about time we shake things up with a woman, and I would love to see us all age with her in the white house. Amen!

  36. tb says:

    Huh??

    Anyone living in Clayton has to live with the fallout of not paying attention to the school board.

    Did I mention the Governor has stacked a task force to tackle education problems with bureaucrats?

    The problem stinks from the top on down.

  37. Jane says:

    By being critical of Sarah’s mayorship of a small town, Obama is making the same mistake he made when he was in San Fransico and critized desperate people depended on God and Guns. A lot of people live in small town and in rural areas. I do not see Obama ever getting there vote.

  38. jsm says:

    “A former beauty queen and small town mayor? Good choice. If I were a woman this choice would insult me. Heck, it insults me anyway.”

    What do you have against beauty queens and small town mayors, murray? Do these things disqualify a person automatically? If so, we need to get the message out to young people stat–“if you ever want to work in the White House, don’t ever enter a beauty contest or become a mayor of a city smaller than Chattanooga.”

    It’s funny watching the dems struggle to find something meaningful against Palin.

    “No wiggle-room, no games. An all out loss for the GOP in November.”

    You might consult with Hillary’s staunchest supporters before making that claim.

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/08/29/ha_say_the_online_hillary_supp.html

  39. tb says:

    The dems are rightly worried because this one woman singlehandedly took on some in the very party she is a member of. Now that’s a hoot. And a pro-lifer that has a child born with a disability. There ain’t nothing sweeter.

  40. murray says:

    Jism: I have nothing against small town mayors. As long as they aren’t one heart-beat away from the Presidency. What will happen in a crisis? a tap dance and an off-key rendition of Oklahoma? Perhaps a nice swim suit competition? McCain is the one crowing about experience–two weeks ago he assured his supporters that he would chose someone who was qualified to take over should he not be able to finish his term in office. Now this. Palin makes Dan Quayle look like Eisenhower.

    If you want guaranteed health care for your children you’re a Democrat. No Repulsivekin is every going to give you any thing of the kind. Just because Pain has a retarded child does not make her your friend. Nor is anyone of that part going to give you right to life or anything of the sort–if they did, then it would all be over and you’d have to start thinking about other things.

  41. joe says:

    so murray,

    Since Obama and Palin have about the same experience, are YOU saying that Obama is not qualified?

  42. murray says:

    Look Joe, there’s a world of difference between being US Senator for a populous district as opposed to being the govenor of a welfare state for 23 months. I didn’t say they had the same experience. You did. And. You’re wrong.

    “It’s funny watching the dems struggle to find something meaningful against Palin.”

    Struggle? Not quite. She’s a worthless nobody with no experience at anything at all. She is utterly meaningless. And when McCain kicks the bucket from one of his many diseases, you’ll rue the day you voted for Barbie from Iglooville.

  43. c_murrayiii says:

    Alaska produces much of its own wealth through such evil things as mining, oil, and natural gas production. I know to liberals like you murray, these are terrible, terrible things. A state the produces something, like a business. And hey, your the lib, so wouldn’t you want every state to be a welfare state recieving free healthcare, free childcare, taking care of all of Earth’s poor little creatures from cradle to grave? In fact, if I remember correctly, Alaska doesn’t have a state income or sales tax because they get so much revenue from the oil they PRODUCE. Yeah, I can see why libs hate this, it represents a free market that doesn’t have to take from the achievers and give to the non-achievers

  44. c_murrayiii says:

    Also, you folks notice how this pick has really gotten under the Dems skin, murray and the like sound really irritated. Looks like the Second Coming might get post-poned.

  45. murray says:

    Alaska gets more federal aid than any other state–by far. 7-9 BILLION DOLLARS per year of your money goes to Alaska where 33% of the workforce is on the dole. It’s not difficult to run a state where there is no bottom line–my cat could write Alaska’s budget.

    Yeah, the Republicans get under my skin. I’m tired of their assaults on the constitution, their never-ending hatefulness, their penchant for war, their supposed religiosity, their cronyism–their brazen incompetence.

    When the American Revolution started my family had already been here 165 years–and we have fought and died in all of our wars–including the present one; and what I most tire of is the current practice of spilling our blood for their profit.

    John McCain should be living in a retirement home down in Clearwater complaining about the cream corn and playing bingo–and not plaguing this nation with his party’s failed policies.

  46. bowersville says:

    Murray, you my dear sir are a liar. No one by the name of Murray was here 165 years before the revolution.

  47. “I’m not sure what she brings to the ticket other than she’s a woman and a conservative. Well, she’s a better speaker than McCain,” – Faye Palin, Sarah Palin’s mother-in-law, laughing. Faye may vote for Obama.

  48. This won’t be an effective ad in October.

    State Senate President Lyda Green said she thought it was a joke when someone called her at 6 a.m. to tell her the news.

    “She’s not prepared to be governor. How can she be prepared to be vice president or president? said Green, a Republican from Palin’s hometown of Wasilla. “Look at what she’s done to this state. What would she do to the nation?”

  49. …the Palin pick reflects the most dangerous tendencies in McCain’s foreign policy–the tendency to react, to overreact, to crises, without thinking it through. It also reflects a defiant, adolescent “screw you” attitude toward governance. I always thought McCain’s best choice for vice president was Rob Portman–the former Congressman and Office of Management and Budget director from Ohio. Portman is smooth, attractive, extremely smart, reliably conservative, but he also knows how the federal government works. His experience as OMB director would have enabled McCain to say, “I’ve picked a guy who knows where all the bodies are buried, where all the waste is.” The Ohio part of the program wouldn’t have hurt McCain in locking down that crucial state, either. But the pick would have been seen as safe, unexciting–and John McCain doesn’t like safe. Which is a real problem in a President.

  50. I support you raising the questions. Had the McCain campaign vetted this candidate, they probably would have found these rumors long ago. They apparently have been swirling in AK for a while now. The story of her flying back to AK from TX while in labor is just very odd. In fact, as a woman, I find it totally not credible, but if true, it was reckless. Her pregnancy, given her age, is high-risk even if she wasn’t birthing a baby with special needs.

    Shame on McCain for not having done his homework. I can’t imagine any candidate for POTUS selecting someone with an open corruption investigation especially when the final report is due a few days before the election.

  51. Alaska Business Monthly: We’ve lost a lot of Alaska’s military members to the war in Iraq. How do you feel about sending more troops into battle, as President Bush is suggesting?

    Palin: I’ve been so focused on state government, I haven’t really focused much on the war in Iraq. I heard on the news about the new deployments, and while I support our president, Condoleezza Rice and the administration, I want to know that we have an exit plan in place; I want assurances that we are doing all we can to keep our troops safe. Every life lost is such a tragedy. I am very, very proud of the troops we have in Alaska, those fighting overseas for our freedoms, and the families here who are making so many sacrifices.

    I want to know that we have an exit plan in place.

  52. You get the point. This is what happens when you have only met your VP pick once before.

    I’ve voted a straight Republican ticket every year of my life since 1975, when I first came of voting age, but I was stunned and horrified by McCain’s choice of Palin. I simply cannot even consider voting for McCain after this choice, which speaks loudly of his own selfishness and fundamental frivolousness.

    So I was shocked when I turned to the conservative blogs looking for others who shared my dismay and found a celebration going on. They really honestly believe that Palin’s “inexperience” and Obama’s “inexperience” are equivalent. I have had no luck at all in the past 24 hours trying to explain that Obama is quite obviously an impressive man (with whom I disagree on almost every major issue) with extraordinary qualities of organization, discipline and leadership. I see nothing in Palin’s record to suggest that she has any such qualities.

    He is a man who has spent his adult life thinking serious thoughts about serious issues and having serious conversations about them with other serious, well-informed people; while Palin quite as clearly has done none of those things. He was the president of the Harvard Law Review; she was the point guard on her high school basketball team.

    He has surrounded himself in his campaign with world-class people (with whom, again, I disagree on almost every issue); and though I am doubtless an elitist and snob for saying so, I doubt that she has even met a half-dozen world-class people in her lifetime.

    While Obama might do a hundred things as President that I believe are bad for the country, I am confident that he would surround himself with experienced, informed, competent advisors and that he would make no world-destroying blunders. I cannot say the same about Palin and, in view of what this choice reveals about McCain’s character and judgment, I cannot say the same of him either.

  53. bowersville says:

    Rugby et al, you protest too much, ie, McCain/Palin has the electorate in November and the Presidency.

  54. ReaganRepublican says:

    Get over it….. We will win, and we will win very big….. The base of the party that gets the work done has been energized…. THE CHRISTIAN RIGHT….. And in 2012 the ticket will be Palin-Huckabee….. Life is good again….
    “I am confident that he would surround himself with experienced, informed, competent advisors and that he would make no world-destroying blunders. ”
    No one that has ever voted GOP since 1975 would ever say such a thing. If Obama is not a commie than no one is. An Obama presidency, would just be an extension of Jimmy Carters failed regime…..

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