Apparently, It Is Time For A Different Approach

NewDayInGA/ConcernedHall and everyone else at IP address 71.91.137.xxx seem to feel the need to spam other threads to announce the candidacy of Christopher Strickland, (Here, Here, Here, Here, and Here, to name just a few).

Since the “When and Where Can I Find Out Where Paul Broun Will Be Sworn In” approach seems to have failed, I’ve decided to cave, and give NDIG/CH exactly what “they” seem to want.

This thread is hereby dedicated solely to the Strickland challenge of Mills.  Please check out Mr. Strickland’s website, and post your comments below.

NewDayInGA, ConcernedHall, sometimes you may want to be a little more careful what you wish for.

Enjoy!

42 comments

  1. joe says:

    This is just too easy. From Strickland’s web site:

    “Civility: The number one issue of this campaign would be to restore civility to politics.”

    and:

    “I am Christopher Strickland and I want to be your representative: a representative who understands the needs of South Hall County. A man who will go to the General Assembly and promote good ideas and not just the ideas of the payday lenders and title pawn dealers.”

    Now, in my book, implying that your opponent is a patsy for payday lenders and pawn dealers isn’t exactly civil.

    By the way, I do not live in Hall County, and except for PP postings, never heard of either candidate.

  2. Joshua Patterson says:

    Am I reading this wrong?

    The incumbent wanted term limits, ethical behavior, and doesn’t let money influence his politics…

    So Srickland wants no term limits, will be unethical, and be influenced by contributors?

  3. kcordell says:

    I do live in south Hall County. The voters here will send Mr. Mills back to the legislature. Unlike some of other’s we’ve relected James has done a fairly decent job and as far as I know he’s always been honest with us.

  4. Fair Witness says:

    Nowhere on Strickland’s site did I see a party affiliation. Now, obviously the primaries are over, so he must be a Democrat. But, I’m surprised he won’t admit it — I had to go to one of his external links to confirm his party.

  5. Gray says:

    I told you that I wasn’t Concerned Hall/New Day. My IP address will confirm this, and the Mods are welcome to reveal that this is true. For someone who is pretty pleasant to me in real life, Josh, you’re kind of giving me an undeserved hard time over this.

    Second, the incumbent hasn’t been “honest” with anyone. I could give several examples, backed by news articles and factsheets, but I’ll save my powder for now…

    I’m sorry that other threads got spammed by somebody. I volunteer for the campaign, and we’ve worked hard. Sometimes people get zealous. It’s not a bad problem to have.

    And by the way, the candidates name is CHRIS strickland, not JIM as is says in the post.

    Looks like I’ll be the designated hitter for the shiatstorm that Icarus is throwing this way. Batter up.

  6. concernedhall says:

    Thank you so much ICARUS.

    I am a Gwinnett County Public School teacher and a good friend of Dr. Strickland’s.

    I am sorry that you think my comment posts have been off topic. Thank you so much for finally giving me a forum.

    Mr. James Mills has been my representative for the last six years. I have heard that he was both a fiscal and social conservative. I find that hard to believe after examining his voting record over the last few years. This year alone James Mills has sponsored at least 6 tax or fee increases. On top of that he has voted in favor of a state budget that has increase the property taxes of Hall County citizens to the tune of 20 million dollars.

    I am also concerned that in 1992 when James Mills was elected he vowed to only serve 6 terms. So the question is: “Was he lying then or he is lying now?”

  7. Gray says:

    Joe-
    How is it uncivil to mention the incumbent’s record? Mills is in the pocket of title pawn dealers and payday lenders. He is the Chairman of THE BANKING Committee. Do you feel this is uncivil to bring up in a campaign?

    I don’t see how a completely factual, and verifiable statement, is uncivil.

    KCORDELL-
    The incumbent may be sent back to the Legislature. That is for the voters to decide. But it won’t be without a fight. This guy may be the most ineffective legislator in the entire state house, and regardless of party, it’s time for a change.

  8. umustbekidding says:

    Mills is one mean SOB. He will stay in as long as the clueless people of south Hall let him.

    I don’t like it when politicians hide behind the pulpit. Watch – when he does something wrong or that people don’t like, he’ll say “I prayed about it” or “I’ll pray for you.” Well, I pray he doesn’t get re-elected.

  9. newdayinga says:

    This is just too funny.

    I went to out of town Thursday and came back this morning to see this front page post. Methinks Icarus is flying too close to the sun again.

    Now onto James Mills. I am 54 years old and I supported Mr. Mills for his first election and many subsequent elections. When he began, Mills was true to his word. He voted against every budget, including the teacher /state employee pay raises of the 1990’s. In his first election, he would not accept a donation larger than $500.00 because he didn’t want to be unduly influenced by money.

    But then the wheels fell off.

    After serving for 12 years, it was time for Mr. Mills to go. He talked about retiring and working as a pastor fulltime. We had a great candidate lined up to replace him. What did he do, he lied. He showed up on the last day of qualifying and ran for a 7th term. Then he became chairman of banks and banking and began accepting large sums of money from payday lenders and title pawn dealers. And if that was enough, he has voted to increase property taxes in this state by 1.5 billion dollars over the last six years.

    I am a Republican, but this Strickland dude is making sense to me.

  10. Icarus says:

    Dr. Strickland’s name has been corrected in the above post, thank you for the correction.

    So far as I can tell, Gray’s IP address does not match one’s used by ConcernedHall/NewDayInGA.

    I’ll now return you to your discussion of all things Strickland.

  11. Chris says:

    Does anyone know if the Gwinnett School System’s Acceptable Use Policy for employee internet activity permits employees campaigning on behalf of candidates?

    Maybe an FOIA request is in order….

  12. Gray says:

    Better yet, Chris Farris, let’s just feed ALL the challengers for public office to the lions!
    How dare an unknown, underfunded candidate try to take on one of the most powerful men in the Legislature!

    It’s sooo offensive when a humble teacher tries to take on the political elite, huh?

  13. Icarus says:

    “Similar to our driver’s license, we should have a national identification card. ”

    Anyone care to explain how a GA House member is going to start a national ID program?

  14. Gray says:

    So let me get this straight – we have a 16 year career politician that has gone back on his term limit promise, has received tons of money from Payday lenders while regulating them, went back on his own pledge to only accept donations of $500 or less, and has sponsored over 6 tax or fee increases in 2008 alone.

    But, this thread wants to tear down his opponent, who IS NOT a career politician and has devoted his career to educating our kids?

    Did you guys root for Apollo Creed in the first Rocky movie?

  15. Icarus says:

    No, this thread wants to make an example of anyone that wants to spam all the other threads to call attention to their candidate via off-topic comments.

    As for Apollo Creed, yes. Never been a Stallone fan.

  16. joe says:

    Icarus,

    Apparently nobody else understands this thread. How about this one?

    “My position is that goverment should interfere as little as possible in our family lives.””

    “There are ways that our goverment can help with family values.”

    Oh good, a knock at the door follwed by:

    ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’

  17. Icarus says:

    ConcernedHall on 8/5/2008:

    “So who are the tax and spend liberals now?”

    From the website we’re then directed to:

    “I believe that we must work to restore the past pay raises for Georgia’s teachers…We must restore funding cuts, address the teacher shortage by offering scholarships to future teachers, and help forgive student loan debts to those teachers who are willing to teach in difficult areas.”

    “At the middle school level, we should increase funding for after school programs. ”

    “We must pass stiffer laws and enforce those laws. ”

    ” I do believe it is government’s job to help citizens who are in a state of crisis through no fault of their own. ”

    “we can develop parks and other places for families to enjoy each other’s company.”

    Sounds like he has the spend part down.

  18. Gray says:

    Chris Strickland advocates priority based spending. That doesn’t mean cutting everything 3% across the board. It means fully funding things of high priority, and defunding less important items.

    For example- education hasn’t been fully funded in my recent memory. Perhaps we should fully fund education, and cut out lower priority items- horse barns in Perry, or perhaps the GoFish initiative during a 100 year drought.

    So, yes, Strickland advocates spending money on education. I know anti-intellectualism is a fad among the GOP types, but I didn’t think that fad trickled down to primary education.

  19. Mad Dog says:

    Bored. I must be bored out of my mind to be reading and posting here.

    Hall County government needs a 3H enema. And, god help us when the purge starts if we’re not on the high ground.

    I can’t believe my neighbors, friends, and family don’t care enough to learn about the issues, gather even a few facts from a google search, or go to the public forums where various candidates speak.

    Yet, they vote the same person back into office and get the same constipated bloat election after election.

    I’ve watched many politicians speak in public. They’re all smooth and Madison avenue prepared. But, they have nothing other than style. No substance.

    I hear the GOP incumbents saying, “I’m told.” “They tell me.” “They say.” That’s the slang of a liar. Yet, Nathan Deal can sell it to his base in Hall County. Apparently, so can Rogers and Mills.

    What happened to personal responsibility for the voter and Constitutional duty for Congress?

    Who told them? Why even accept the word of another if you doubt that word so much that you won’t put your reputation on the line for it?

    Liars… all of the incumbents ….. maybe all the politicians.

  20. Gray says:

    Hey Joshua Patterson.. I was referring to JSM when I said ‘josh’ in my previous post…

    Sorry if my comment left you bewildered 🙂

  21. jsm says:

    “For someone who is pretty pleasant to me in real life, Josh, you’re kind of giving me an undeserved hard time over this.”

    Eric, I do try to be friendly when I meet folks, but I also enjoy a good debate. I seriously wondered if you were the source of spamming from others mentioned above, and now that the answer is confirmed, I won’t mention it again.

    I have addressed the statements of your candidate based on principle, and I have debunked several untruths that have been floated by the spammers on various threads here. A few examples:

    http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/05/30/gainesville-and-hall-county-education-in-the-crapper/#comment-128585

    http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/07/17/first-strike-at-glenn-richardson/#comment-132287

    http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/07/22/ralston-v-richardson-a-campaign-issue/#comment-131161

    http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/07/27/david-ralstons-grassroots-campaign-for-speaker/#comment-131837

    You and Mr. Strickland have been pleasant and friendly to me, and I have nothing personal against either of you. This election, as well as every other election, is about principle. I love the analytical side of life, and I enjoy breaking down candidates’ statements into the principles they really promote. Buzz words like “cut spending” and “fund education” evoke an emotional response from people that don’t spend the time to dig deeper into a candidate’s platform and understand his policies in relation to the principles of freedom, personal responsibility, and individual achievement. These principles have profound effects on every part of our lives, including our wallets.

    I don’t agree with the principles behind Mr. Strickland’s policy positions, and I’m going to address them every time I get the chance.

  22. drjay says:

    so am i to understand these guys have info on paul broun’s swearing in??? can they also get spacey back on the front page and unlock the thread of dreams???

  23. rugby fan says:

    Haven’t heard any thing from the bovine-moose lately.

    Is he in need of another liberation?

    Also haven’t heard anything about Erick Erickson’s plight, has that been solved?

    Most importantly: who is thinking of the children?

  24. jsm says:

    trying again…

    “For someone who is pretty pleasant to me in real life, Josh, you’re kind of giving me an undeserved hard time over this.”

    Eric, I do try to be friendly when I meet folks, but I also enjoy a good debate. I seriously wondered if you were the source of spamming from others mentioned above, and now that the answer is confirmed, I won’t mention it again.

    I have addressed the statements of your candidate based on principle, and I have debunked several untruths that have been floated by the spammers on various threads here. A few examples:

    http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/05/30/gainesville-and-hall-county-education-in-the-crapper/#comment-128585

    http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/07/17/first-strike-at-glenn-richardson/#comment-132287

    http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/07/22/ralston-v-richardson-a-campaign-issue/#comment-131161

    http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/07/27/david-ralstons-grassroots-campaign-for-speaker/#comment-131837

    You and Mr. Strickland have been pleasant and friendly to me, and I have nothing personal against either of you. This election, as well as every other election, is about principle. I love the analytical side of life, and I enjoy breaking down candidates’ statements into the principles they really promote. Buzz words like “cut spending” and “fund education” evoke an emotional response from people that don’t spend the time to dig deeper into a candidate’s platform and understand his policies in relation to the principles of freedom, personal responsibility, and individual achievement. These principles have profound effects on every part of our lives, including our wallets.

    I don’t agree with the principles behind Mr. Strickland’s policy positions, and I’m going to address them every time I get the chance.

  25. Mad Dog says:

    Chris Farris,

    Whine on about how your tax dollars are used. Seems like everybody else does so you should get your fair share.

    Just don’t look too closely at how much you get from the government. You might be a tax dead beat.

    Fair warning to you…

    MD

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