You know and I know, if a white guy did this . . .

August 1, 2008 13:48 pm

by Erick · 23 comments

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This is a flyer for Stan Watson’s campaign against Burrell Ellis for Dekalb County CEO.

This did not get much attention during the primary. It certainly did not make the front page of the AJC. It is pretty blatant race baiting.

You can see it blown up here.

Here is the other side, in which Watson describes his relationship with Barack Obama and how hard he’ll work to make sure Obama becomes the first “African-American President.”

It’s pretty pathetic that in the 21st century this type of tactic is still considered persuasive. And we both know there are areas of this state where the same thing would be persuasive among white voters.

The difference is that the AJC would put that on its front page and did not, to my knowledge, put this on the front page.

umustbekidding August 1, 2008 at 2:13 pm

In Dekalb County blacks in charge only promote blacks. Check out the Police department. The Chief Idiot there skips over white officers to promote his hand picked puppets. So this is no surprise to me. People will vote for Watson because they think the blacks “deserve” those jobs, even if they aren’t qualified. Racism is in full swing there – just turned around.

YourFutureLeader August 1, 2008 at 2:25 pm

Sad to see from Stan Watson, I never thought of him as a race baiter. I even supported him in this race…

Trackboy1 August 1, 2008 at 9:14 pm

From the AJC Feb. 27, 2007:
Dunwoody cityhood disturbs south DeKalb

“I’m not a racist, but this is about race,” said state Rep. Stan Watson (D-Decatur). He accused Dunwoody residents of wanting to “secede from the Union” after blacks seized power in DeKalb.

chamblee54 August 1, 2008 at 9:15 pm

The two postcards have different return addresses. Also, the “Black” card does not list the website. I wrote about this at my blog.

Dave Bearse August 1, 2008 at 10:04 pm

I’d of thought Rep. Watson was aware of the number of mixed race DeKalb neighborhoods if not mixed race households like mine, where people of both races see both flyers.

I thought ours was a misprint, the “UNCLE TOM” in bold font Ellis photograph being left off.

Progressive Dem August 1, 2008 at 10:27 pm

When Mitch Skandalikis pulled this crap, the AJC went after him. Cynthia Tucker has shown some willingness to take on sacred cows, but no one over there is willing to confront black racism.

Hey AJC! How about calling them the way you see them! Grow up and deal with race in today’s context, not the 1960′s.

When Vernon gets wind of an attack from the AJC, he has gone straight to AJC management time and again to threaten and bully them. Most of the time they roll over, and pull their punch.

Rusty August 2, 2008 at 8:09 am

My question is who are Concerned DeKalb Citizens and what is Watson’s affiliation with them? That’s not really clear based on how the mailer is labeled.

I personally witnessed Stan Watson supporters illegally campaigning near the polling station at East Ponce and Sycamore, so there’s not a lot I’d put past him/them. His absenteeism at debates is totally inexcusable. But I think some due diligence needs to be done here.

Tea Party August 2, 2008 at 8:40 am

The matter of s matter will settle itself on August 5th. Much like ’70′s TV confronted racial issues in America (All in the Family, The Jeffersons’ ), so too does Mr. Obama’s presence in the arena force us to deal with the effects of our Two Americas.

The sting of reverse discrimination/discrimination will never be put to rest with the likes of these 21st century reminders to 20th century thinking.

I refuse to believe we cannot change.

Progressive Dem August 2, 2008 at 10:11 am

Rusty, you got to be kidding. There is NFW that Watson did not know about this mailer. None, zip, nada. He is absolutely complicit. I doubt he will even distance himself from it.

The guy has a terrible record of maintaining his campaign contributions, too. He blew past the June 30 filing deadline, and finally filed on the July 15th. He has been fined repeatedly by the State Ethics Commission for ignoring the rules. The guy is an arrogant racist hypocrite who tells black people one message and whites another.

Instead of participating in a televised debate – something that demonstrates the American political system at its best – he cancels at the last moment and instead participates in a racist mailer. Wow, there is a leader we can all respect. Shame on Watson and shame on those that stand by silently, excuse it or somehow find it acceptable.

Rusty August 2, 2008 at 11:06 am

No, not kidding. I don’t disagree with you about anything you said except the “there is NFW he didn’t know.” I agree with you that’s a likely explanation, but it’s not a proven explanation. All I’m asking for is someone to actually prove he sent it, and that burden of proof has yet to be met.

And FYI, I held my nose and voted for Ellis in the primary despite him being directly up Sembler’s ass.

Progressive Dem August 2, 2008 at 12:16 pm

So it is plausible to you that some independent group printed an attack mailer focusing upon Stan Watson’s opponent without Stan knowing? Without Stan’s staff knowing? Without Stan’s political allies knowing? Without Stan’s financial contributors knowing? Nobody associated with Stan knew this was going to happen and no one told him it was going to happen? And no one including Stan and his political contributors ever had an opportunity to say, “No this is wrong. We can’t act lie and encourage racism.” If you believe all that, Sonny’s wants to talk with you about some swamp land in Florida that he owns.

This was a political act, not a violation of the law. It isn’t necessary to have a chain of evidence to hold him responsible. The circumstances prove his guilt.

Let’s see how loudly Stan speaks about this mailer.

Rusty August 2, 2008 at 12:49 pm

So it is plausible to you that some independent group printed an attack mailer focusing upon Stan Watson’s opponent without Stan knowing? Without Stan’s staff knowing? Without Stan’s political allies knowing? Without Stan’s financial contributors knowing? Nobody associated with Stan knew this was going to happen and no one told him it was going to happen? And no one including Stan and his political contributors ever had an opportunity to say, “No this is wrong. We can’t act lie and encourage racism.” If you believe all that, Sonny’s wants to talk with you about some swamp land in Florida that he owns.

Did it ever occur to you that someone who doesn’t like Stan could have put out the mailer to make him look like he’s race-baiting? Not saying that’s what happened, but you have no more proof that Stan put it out than there is that an opponent did it to make him look like he did.

In this case, the longer he stays silent about it, the more he appears complicit. Chances appear good he knew about it given some of his past tactics.

But there is no proof, and to come out and state unequivocally that that is the case could end up making you look real stupid if there’s more to the story.

Progressive Dem August 2, 2008 at 1:33 pm

“Did it ever occur to you that someone who doesn’t like Stan could have put out the mailer to make him look like he’s race-baiting?”

No. That is contortionist thinking.

Making excuses and concocting illogical political strategies are sounding pretty stupid to me.

Rusty August 2, 2008 at 2:08 pm

The joke here is I don’t even like Stan Watson, and voted for Ellis.

You (and Erick for that matter) have presented exactly no proof that Watson actually put out the mailer other than “golly, I know he did it.” Try bringing that to court and see how it holds up against a libel suit.

It is entirely possible that a supporter put it out without his knowledge. It is entirely possible (though admittedly unlikely) that an opponent put it out to make it look like he put it out. Other scenarios are possible.

If you’ve got proof that Watson put out the mailer, show it. Circumstantial evidence doesn’t mean anything.

Progressive Dem August 2, 2008 at 3:37 pm

A libel suit??? Take it to court??? Circumstantial evidence doesn’t mean anything??? Stop thinking like a lawyer. It isn’t serving you well in this context.

The printing, mailing lists and postage for this flyer ran into the thousands. The person that did this expects to get something out of it. Altruism doesn’t appear to be a likely motive. Someone told Stan who did it because they want the credit.

This flyer doesn’t get dismissed by the voting and thinking public simply because a civil suit isn’t tried and won. Stan deserves the blame for this flyer.

The joke is you’ve taken the weak side of the argument to advocate a very narrow position. Political smears should be denounced. Period. End of story.

Tea Party August 3, 2008 at 9:11 am

The larger question is will the ‘anonynity provision’ in HB 1112 that allows this sort of poor politics stand.

http://www.ajc.com/search/content/metro/stories/2008/07/31/anonymous_campaign_mailings.html

I support SOS Handel in repealing this law. I am not sure what the good Senator from Cobb had in mind, but this seems to be a poor outcome.

Progressive Dem August 3, 2008 at 11:12 am

Is Stan Watson going to speak up about this mailer? Is he going to say it is wrong?

Or is he just going to admire his turd in the punch bowl?

Doug Deal August 3, 2008 at 12:28 pm

Tea, I find it ironic that someone who would choose a nickname that references the very patriots that sparked our independence, would also support legislation that would have made the every anonymous speach that they relied upon a crime.

Either you support free speak or you don’t. Anonymous speach is the most important type of free speach, as it allows publication of opinion that could cause harm to the speaker by those in power. If voters are not smart enough to figure out the motivations behind the speach , we aren’t well served by a republic.

mrdunwoodyguy August 3, 2008 at 5:25 pm

Wow you guys are supporting Burrell here, webmaster seems to have deleting all that info and links about those people working for Burrell Ellis no matter I’ll post it at Georgia Unfil

Tea Party August 4, 2008 at 4:15 am

@Doug Deal Interesting point Doug, the original participants in the Boston Tea Party disguised themselves to thwart retribution by the majority.

My point on HB1222 is that I do not ‘know’, two days before this election, if Stan Watson really sent out these two mailers. Common sense dictates he must have known about them.

Your point is well taken, yet true anonymity is very difficult to maintain, and I had to go ‘public’ on the recent North DeKalb incorporation issue.

Doug Deal August 4, 2008 at 8:52 am

Tea,

I once read a story where a woman who would give talks on racial insensitivty once vandilized her own car to make news. Unfortunately for her, she was caught on tape.

Without real proof, assumptions are often wrong, especially in politics. Politics attracks some very disgraceful people (pretty much the entire group who label themselves “political consultants”, as well as many of the politicians themselves.)

Who knows what people might do on their own, or what might be staged by an opponent to make a candidate look bad.

Tea Party August 4, 2008 at 9:17 am

Ditto that, Mr. Deal, I prefer to call a spade; a shovel, and political operatives, ‘polyps’.

Doug Deal August 4, 2008 at 9:21 am

That’s a good one. Fittingly, polyps are often found in the colon.

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