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	<title>Comments on: Paul Broun Invokes The Spirit Of Martin Scott; Introduces &#8220;Personhood&#8221; Bill</title>
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		<title>By: Icarus</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/05/12/paul-broun-invokes-the-spirit-of-martin-scott-introduces-personhood-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-124183</link>
		<dc:creator>Icarus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stick around, you&#039;ll learn a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stick around, you&#8217;ll learn a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Goldwater Conservative</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/05/12/paul-broun-invokes-the-spirit-of-martin-scott-introduces-personhood-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-124181</link>
		<dc:creator>Goldwater Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I am not that good at namecalling.</description>
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		<title>By: Icarus</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/05/12/paul-broun-invokes-the-spirit-of-martin-scott-introduces-personhood-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-124171</link>
		<dc:creator>Icarus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 19:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GC,

&quot;Frigtard&quot; is a word we use around here with specific intent, and it does not apply to this debate.

For past research:

http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/03/28/attention-wayne-lapierre-your-nra-folks-in-georgia-are-frigtards-redstate/

http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/03/more-on-the-resurrection-of-sb-43/





and one of my personal favorites:

http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/13/general-assembly-about-to-pass-law-preventing-you-from-suing-restaurant-when-cook-masturbates-in-your-food/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GC,</p>
<p>&#8220;Frigtard&#8221; is a word we use around here with specific intent, and it does not apply to this debate.</p>
<p>For past research:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/03/28/attention-wayne-lapierre-your-nra-folks-in-georgia-are-frigtards-redstate/" rel="nofollow">http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/03/28/attention-wayne-lapierre-your-nra-folks-in-georgia-are-frigtards-redstate/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/03/more-on-the-resurrection-of-sb-43/" rel="nofollow">http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/03/more-on-the-resurrection-of-sb-43/</a></p>
<p>and one of my personal favorites:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/13/general-assembly-about-to-pass-law-preventing-you-from-suing-restaurant-when-cook-masturbates-in-your-food/" rel="nofollow">http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/13/general-assembly-about-to-pass-law-preventing-you-from-suing-restaurant-when-cook-masturbates-in-your-food/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Goldwater Conservative</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/05/12/paul-broun-invokes-the-spirit-of-martin-scott-introduces-personhood-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-124167</link>
		<dc:creator>Goldwater Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 18:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jsm,

frigtard, as I have heard, should be a new nickname for you.

Creator does not refer to that imagined being in the sky known as god.  I have said it a million times, as had Jefferson and Franklin and...well most of the federalist in their personal diaries and comments about this country.  The creator is human reason...our ability to rationalize and use logic. Not god.

And no...the monuments are not the garbage that I refer to.  Some of them are rather brilliant works of art.  The garbage I am refering to is the religious rhetoric used to garner political support from people who do not know any better.

Joe Schmoe from Franklin county usually has a tough time balancing the check book.  He knows absolutely nothing about tax policy or our nations fiscal and monetary policies.  In other words, Joe Schmoe does not know what government policies are good for his wallet and his families bank accounts.  What is attractive though: a candidate that spouts out garbage about guns and god.

Has our creator abandoned us?

Has human reason gone out the window because of partisan politics and the race to the bottom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jsm,</p>
<p>frigtard, as I have heard, should be a new nickname for you.</p>
<p>Creator does not refer to that imagined being in the sky known as god.  I have said it a million times, as had Jefferson and Franklin and&#8230;well most of the federalist in their personal diaries and comments about this country.  The creator is human reason&#8230;our ability to rationalize and use logic. Not god.</p>
<p>And no&#8230;the monuments are not the garbage that I refer to.  Some of them are rather brilliant works of art.  The garbage I am refering to is the religious rhetoric used to garner political support from people who do not know any better.</p>
<p>Joe Schmoe from Franklin county usually has a tough time balancing the check book.  He knows absolutely nothing about tax policy or our nations fiscal and monetary policies.  In other words, Joe Schmoe does not know what government policies are good for his wallet and his families bank accounts.  What is attractive though: a candidate that spouts out garbage about guns and god.</p>
<p>Has our creator abandoned us?</p>
<p>Has human reason gone out the window because of partisan politics and the race to the bottom?</p>
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		<title>By: jsm</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/05/12/paul-broun-invokes-the-spirit-of-martin-scott-introduces-personhood-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-124137</link>
		<dc:creator>jsm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 16:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GC, there are references to God all around Capitol Hill and on surrounding buildings and monuments.  Is this the &quot;religion&quot; that you say there is no room for?  Our Founders didn&#039;t think so.

Broun is referencing the same God that our Founders did, whom they called our &quot;Creator.&quot;  Religion has nothing to do with this.  The ignorant equating of God with religion is only a ploy by those who wish to remove any mention of Him from the public arena.

Pushing one&#039;s morals is one thing, but protecting life is another.  And yes, I believe that a group of human cells which is splitting and improving toward the ability to live independently outside the womb constitutes life, which has the right to be protected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GC, there are references to God all around Capitol Hill and on surrounding buildings and monuments.  Is this the &#8220;religion&#8221; that you say there is no room for?  Our Founders didn&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>Broun is referencing the same God that our Founders did, whom they called our &#8220;Creator.&#8221;  Religion has nothing to do with this.  The ignorant equating of God with religion is only a ploy by those who wish to remove any mention of Him from the public arena.</p>
<p>Pushing one&#8217;s morals is one thing, but protecting life is another.  And yes, I believe that a group of human cells which is splitting and improving toward the ability to live independently outside the womb constitutes life, which has the right to be protected.</p>
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		<title>By: Romegaguy</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/05/12/paul-broun-invokes-the-spirit-of-martin-scott-introduces-personhood-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-124109</link>
		<dc:creator>Romegaguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 15:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Broun should outlaw condoms, too. After all, life begins at ejaculation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Broun should outlaw condoms, too. After all, life begins at ejaculation</p>
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		<title>By: Goldwater Conservative</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/05/12/paul-broun-invokes-the-spirit-of-martin-scott-introduces-personhood-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-124103</link>
		<dc:creator>Goldwater Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 14:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jsm,

I obviously mean one of those made up versions of born-again christianity...regardless of the religion, however, there is no room for that garbage on capitol hill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jsm,</p>
<p>I obviously mean one of those made up versions of born-again christianity&#8230;regardless of the religion, however, there is no room for that garbage on capitol hill.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Ellis</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/05/12/paul-broun-invokes-the-spirit-of-martin-scott-introduces-personhood-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-124074</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 11:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea that a personhood amendment ignores the health of the mother is a common, although incorrect, objection.  This amendment would recognize the personhood of an unborn child, including all rights that go with it, but it does not in any way reduce the personhood of the mother.

There are already standards of care in place to deal with competing life issues.  In the event the health of the mother is in danger because of the presence of the life within her, doctors would then have to exercise these standards of care in determining treatment options, recognizing both the mother&#039;s and the child&#039;s rights to life.

The law as it stands today elevates the mother&#039;s rights far above the child&#039;s rights so that the child can be killed if it simply upsets the mother that she is carrying the child.

The mother&#039;s &quot;health&quot; as defined in Doe v. Bolton can mean anything she wants it to mean.  As a result, the unborn child has no rights at all under our current law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea that a personhood amendment ignores the health of the mother is a common, although incorrect, objection.  This amendment would recognize the personhood of an unborn child, including all rights that go with it, but it does not in any way reduce the personhood of the mother.</p>
<p>There are already standards of care in place to deal with competing life issues.  In the event the health of the mother is in danger because of the presence of the life within her, doctors would then have to exercise these standards of care in determining treatment options, recognizing both the mother&#8217;s and the child&#8217;s rights to life.</p>
<p>The law as it stands today elevates the mother&#8217;s rights far above the child&#8217;s rights so that the child can be killed if it simply upsets the mother that she is carrying the child.</p>
<p>The mother&#8217;s &#8220;health&#8221; as defined in Doe v. Bolton can mean anything she wants it to mean.  As a result, the unborn child has no rights at all under our current law.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/05/12/paul-broun-invokes-the-spirit-of-martin-scott-introduces-personhood-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-124070</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 03:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane, I agree. Either you&#039;re a strict constitutionalist or you aren&#039;t; you can&#039;t be one on a part-time basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane, I agree. Either you&#8217;re a strict constitutionalist or you aren&#8217;t; you can&#8217;t be one on a part-time basis.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Roark</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/05/12/paul-broun-invokes-the-spirit-of-martin-scott-introduces-personhood-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-124063</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Roark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 02:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How will Barry attack Congressman on this?

Will he (Barry) come out for the legislation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How will Barry attack Congressman on this?</p>
<p>Will he (Barry) come out for the legislation?</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Roark</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/05/12/paul-broun-invokes-the-spirit-of-martin-scott-introduces-personhood-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-124060</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Roark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 02:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe everyone who is for abortion was born.

RWR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe everyone who is for abortion was born.</p>
<p>RWR</p>
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		<title>By: Icarus</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2008/05/12/paul-broun-invokes-the-spirit-of-martin-scott-introduces-personhood-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-124054</link>
		<dc:creator>Icarus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 00:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If that&#039;s when life begins, why is it called a &quot;happy ending&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that&#8217;s when life begins, why is it called a &#8220;happy ending&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Day</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 00:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correctumundo, Romegaguy...because everyone knows that life begins at ejaculation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correctumundo, Romegaguy&#8230;because everyone knows that life begins at ejaculation!</p>
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		<title>By: Romegaguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Romegaguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 23:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next he&#039;ll try to outlaw Playboy magazines on military bases so that soldiers cant masturbate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next he&#8217;ll try to outlaw Playboy magazines on military bases so that soldiers cant masturbate</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 21:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have mixed views.  While it is politicially valuable to have this vote, I think abortion is best fought at the local level.  If PB thinks the drug war should be fought locally not nationally, then the fight for life should be a local issue as well.  I might still vote for Paul, at least he has guts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have mixed views.  While it is politicially valuable to have this vote, I think abortion is best fought at the local level.  If PB thinks the drug war should be fought locally not nationally, then the fight for life should be a local issue as well.  I might still vote for Paul, at least he has guts.</p>
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		<title>By: Donkey Kong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donkey Kong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 20:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry,

If your parents were a minority, they wouldn&#039;t have been:

Part I: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eygv8qEkiFE
Part II: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwif0VMW3c4

Oh, but no worries -- PP receives millions upon millions of our tax dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry,</p>
<p>If your parents were a minority, they wouldn&#8217;t have been:</p>
<p>Part I: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eygv8qEkiFE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eygv8qEkiFE</a><br />
Part II: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwif0VMW3c4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwif0VMW3c4</a></p>
<p>Oh, but no worries &#8212; PP receives millions upon millions of our tax dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: jsm</title>
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		<dc:creator>jsm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 20:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;fetuses...can not feel.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Rick, this statement demonstrates pure ignorance.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;He, again, is distracting people with religion.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Which religion is that, GC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;fetuses&#8230;can not feel.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Rick, this statement demonstrates pure ignorance.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;He, again, is distracting people with religion.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Which religion is that, GC?</p>
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		<title>By: heroV</title>
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		<dc:creator>heroV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 20:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does this mean I could get an extra tax exemption at conception?  If you are talking about full rights and equal protection under the law, wouldn&#039;t that follow?  If you are expecting a child conceived now, he/she could be born in &#039;09.  The extra tax relief that an additional &#039;08 exemption would bring would be helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this mean I could get an extra tax exemption at conception?  If you are talking about full rights and equal protection under the law, wouldn&#8217;t that follow?  If you are expecting a child conceived now, he/she could be born in &#8216;09.  The extra tax relief that an additional &#8216;08 exemption would bring would be helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: kandrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>kandrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 19:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the big point I&#039;m trying to make is that Paul Broun has not sought about dealing with pressing current issues. He hasn&#039;t said a peep on the housing crisis, he hasn&#039;t said a peep on oil prices, he hasn&#039;t said a peep on education.

The 10th District has some definite needs, Dr. Broun hasn&#039;t done a darn thing to care for them. He&#039;s more concerned with with snooping out the al-Qaeda cells he alleges are based right here in Georgia. All he cares about is fighting his holy war on abortion, porn, and gosh-darned illegals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the big point I&#8217;m trying to make is that Paul Broun has not sought about dealing with pressing current issues. He hasn&#8217;t said a peep on the housing crisis, he hasn&#8217;t said a peep on oil prices, he hasn&#8217;t said a peep on education.</p>
<p>The 10th District has some definite needs, Dr. Broun hasn&#8217;t done a darn thing to care for them. He&#8217;s more concerned with with snooping out the al-Qaeda cells he alleges are based right here in Georgia. All he cares about is fighting his holy war on abortion, porn, and gosh-darned illegals.</p>
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		<title>By: kandrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>kandrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 19:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed GWC.

Martinluther, a human being is far more valuable than that of a bacteria. What makes the &quot;personhood&quot; of a blastula more important of the life, health, and well being of the mother? This legislation implies that the zygote is far more important than health concerns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed GWC.</p>
<p>Martinluther, a human being is far more valuable than that of a bacteria. What makes the &#8220;personhood&#8221; of a blastula more important of the life, health, and well being of the mother? This legislation implies that the zygote is far more important than health concerns.</p>
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