I’ll play this one straight

I’m sure there are lots of jokes to be made about soldiers discharging their weapons, but I’ll refrain from doing so and just point out this article.

Concerned that the military is selling pornography in exchange stores in spite of a ban, one lawmaker has introduced a bill to clean up the matter.

“Our troops should not see their honor sullied so that the moguls behind magazines like Playboy and Penthouse can profit,” said Rep. Paul Broun, R-Ga., unveiling his House bill April 16.

His Military Honor and Decency Act would amend a provision of the 1997 Defense Authorization Act that banned sales of “sexually explicit material” on military bases.

I don’t think publicity like this will hurt Broun in the least little bit in a Republican Primary. In fact, I suspect Barry Fleming would not disagree on the campaign trail with this legislation.

Likewise, a lot of the feminist on the left who might be tempted to now pick off Paul Broun by jumping into the GOP primary in Athens to vote against the guy they initially supported might be neutralized.


  1. LoyaltyIsMyHonor says:

    Broun’s out of touch on this subject. All of the best porn has moved from magazines and DVDs to the Internet. And BTW, few people consider Playboy to be porn these days.

  2. modcon says:

    I’d never heard the term “Addictionologist” before reading the article, so I googled it. the first google hit was this “Addictionology is not a medical specialty recognized by the American Medical Association. Most addictionologists are physicians or others that went to rehab and couldn’t practice in their trained specialty anymore because their reputation was ruined. So they become consultants for rehab facilities or otherwise. The “science” of addiction is very much in it’s infancy, and the methods used are unproven by scientific studies. For instance, the rate of recovery from cigarretes and alcohol over a 5 year period of time is the same for those who go into rehab and those who don’t. Addictionology is a pseudo-specialty based on pseudo- science, populated by shunned health professionals long on sincerity and short on science. Maybe someday we will understand addictions properly.”
    Sounds pretty accurate to me.
    The bill is ridiculous. Way to support the Troops.

  3. Demonbeck says:

    Seriously, is this more or less important than the BCS mess? Shouldn’t our federal officials be fixing the mess with NCAA football before they move onto other issues?

  4. StevePerkins says:

    The most obvious observation is that if Republicans wanted to “restore military honor and decency”, they wouldn’t have fought McCain so hard on the torture issue.

    Putting serious matters aside to get back to the funny… is there ANYBODY left in the country who still considers Playboy to be “pornography”? I haven’t personally seen a copy since Al Gore gave me the Internet… but I recall it as basically being Maxim with the thongs airbrushed out, and some really left-wing political articles thrown in. Also, I thought I read that Penthouse went bankrupt years ago.

  5. Romegaguy says:

    I thought the number one problem facing the minority in Congress was coming out against earmarks that they no longer receive

  6. Goldwater Conservative says:

    Do Nothing Congressman comes to mind when I think of Broun’s congressional record…

    Nevermind…I forgot that pedophiles can go to Starbucks to get their kiddie porn fix and not get caught.

    Broun will certainly be receiving the NAMBLA endorsement.

  7. Demonbeck says:

    He should start up the Pornography in the Military Removal Coalition (PMRC) and see if Tipper Gore wants to get involved.

  8. StevePerkins says:

    He should start up the Pornography in the Military Removal Coalition (PMRC) and see if Tipper Gore wants to get involved.

    I remember some music awards show back in the 80’s or 90’s, when Aerosmith thanked Tipper Gore for ensuring that they could always sell an extra million copies of an album by putting a sticker on it. I imagine that Playboy would love it if Congress held hearings about them… it might boost their readership and win back some of the young guys who abandoned them for the Internet. Keep the hits on coming, religious folks!

  9. Romegaguy says:

    Broun believes predators using the internet to seduce minors is good but people defending our country looking at boobies is bad. He must be smoking some of that stuff that he wants to legalize

  10. Icarus says:

    Every time I read a story like this, it makes me want to donate subscriptions of Playboy to the Marines.

  11. modcon says:

    I wonder if Paul Broun has done a cost analysis on the review process called for in the Bill? Is it actually possible that reviewing all of the potentially lascivious material annually, “so that taxpayers will not be footing the costs of distributing pornography.” will cost taxpayers more money than the marginal costs associated with selling the magazine. Or is price no object when it comes to legislating morality.

  12. moocher says:

    “Our troops should not see their honor sullied so that the moguls behind magazines like Playboy and Penthouse can profit,” said Rep. Paul Broun, R-Ga., unveiling his House bill April 16.

    I know a lot of people say Broun is a constitutionalist conservative who borders on being a Libertarian, but some of his rhetoric and actions are very populist and hypocritical.

    First he goes overboard with the franking, basically having the Federal Government pay his for his campaign’s direct mail and now the ban on boobies.

    Hey Mr. Free Market Conservative; why don’t you let the troops decide for themselves whether they want to purchase Playboy or not.

    These guys are out there putting their life on the line for their country and you’ve got Broun treating them like they are a bunch of 12 year olds. Are Broun and Pat Robertson going to team up and make sure the only magazines sold on base are Highlights, Boys Life, and American Quilter

  13. bowersville says:

    Note to self:

    Do I support this legislation? No. Has Barry Fleming tried to smear and misrepresent Paul Broun as a supporter of Internet perverts to the social conservatives in CD10? Yes.

    With Broun’s legislation against playboy will social conservatives believe Broun is easy on porn? No. In public, do social conservatives believe playboy is porn? Yes. In private? I don’t know.

    Broun has successfully flanked Fleming and Fleming knows it.

  14. Carpe Forem says:

    I’ll play this one straight

    I will too.

    This is stupid! Maybe moral. But definitley bad for Morale

    As quoted by Joy while performing a self Whitesnake photoshoot on Hi, My Name is Earl, “The boys just need to be reminded what they’re fighting for.”

  15. Goldwater Conservative says:

    Well…it is not as if these guys really need pornography when they are overseas. Many of the countries our soldiers visit have affordable and available prostitutes. Taking away the sources of pornography may help to increase the GDP of many of these countries.
    Thumbs up to you, Paul Broun, for encouraging prostitution and visits to bordellos. You truly are a good Christian.

  16. ProfG says:

    bowersville has it right. Fleming just lost that whole pornography/morality issue, in one fell swoop. Tim Echols is a genius.

  17. Old Vet says:

    Restore dignity? Obviously these guys weren’t in the same army I was in 1967 -69. Exactly what lost dignity are they talking about?

  18. modcon says:

    Do you honestly believe that social conservatives are too stupid to realize that there is a moral difference between pedophiles using the internet to prey on children and Marines reading Playboy?

    I know Paul Broun does, but do you?

  19. jsm says:

    “… is there ANYBODY left in the country who still considers Playboy to be ‘pornography’?”

    Probably 7 out of 10 moms.

    Seriously, limiting what can be sold on a military installation for supposed moral reasons or protection of troops’ honor is not the purpose of government. Our troops are not “seeing their honor sullied” so that nudey mags can make a profit. They choose to buy the magazine if they wish, and thereby allow the company to make a profit. How horrible.

  20. DMZDave says:

    OK, Broun is definitely staking out that coveted “don’t take this man seriously” political territory. This all started with the infamous B-1 Bob Dornan’s legislation. I recall I was spitting mad at the time that some Congressman had nothing better to do than worry about than what magazines were being sold in the PX so I called him on it one day in DC. ” I can kind of understand why you may be opposed to gays in the military” I said, ” but what have you got against heterosexuals?

    “Have you ever looked at Hustler Magazine?” he responsed, “That magazine is filled with nothing but lezbo shots – nothing but women on women.” You can’t make this stuff up.

    Now Broun wants to take away Playboys. And I say you will have to pry it from my cold dead hands, uh, well…… hand.

  21. bowersville says:

    To Libertarians, RLC Republicans and Libertarian leaning Republicans.

    Whether we like it or not, the largest voting block in a Republican CD10 primary is the social conservatives. That is especially true in Ga. Senate 50, we sent Nancy Schaefer to the Ga. Senate.

    In order for a Congressman to be elected in a Republican primary in CD10, he/she must carry the majority of the social conservative vote. Fleming and Broun both know this.

    Fleming launched attacks on Broun questioning his social conservative values. Broun has responded and has neutered Fleming. No more, no less.

  22. CHelf says:

    I’m not sure if this is it exactly but I know when I was in the Army, you could go to the PX and the magazine section was filled with porn mags up, down, and across the shelves. There were no covers or wrappers and they were all easily accessible to kids. The ones at Ft. Benning had recruits sitting there flipping through pages right in front of wives with kids walking right past them. I think this is what caused the initial outcry back in the 90’s. Perhaps someone more “in the know” can verify if this is the same sort of issue but more in depth?

  23. Demonbeck says:

    “… is there ANYBODY left in the country who still considers Playboy to be ‘pornography’?”

    Probably 7 out of 10 moms.

    The other 3 have been in it.

  24. Thadius says:

    I disagree with the premise that Pornography is ok. I hate to say it guys… but the fact that all of you are so free and open about your willingness to indulge in this behavior is a sad reflection on what has become mainstream.
    I recognize that I will be ridiculed for this spot… I frankly don’t care. I believe that pornography is actually very dangerous and hurtful to society in general.
    Let the making-fun begin.

  25. joe says:

    The purpose of the Army is to kill people and break things. Its pupose is not to be a social engineering test bed. Broun needs to remember that if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

  26. DMZDave says:

    Thadius: I disagreee with the premise that soldiers who give up a whole hell of a lot of rights including free speech should have their reading habits dictated by you or some Congressman sitting fat and happy in DC. I haven’t personally opened a Playboy magazine since I was on the DMZ in Korea but don’t share your premise that it was a hurtful and dangerous endeavor. The North Koreans were hurtful and dangerous but not the Playboy.

    Let’s keep some perspective. Living in a renovated shipping container for months isn’t right. Having to dodge IED sfor months isn’t right. Not seeing your kids grow up isn’t right. There is just a whole lot of crap that soldiers have to put up with and for some amazing reason a whole lot of great young men and women do and when some crusading politician, trying to get further to right of some other politician for political reasons puts soldiers in the middle, those of us who served have a responsiblity to say “knock it off” and “go score your political points somewhere else.”

    This is pretty simple to me, IEDs and terrorists thugs are hurtful and dangerous to soldiers – Playboy? Not so much.

  27. liberator says:

    Social Conservatives are not true conservatives. They are authoritarians at best Fascists at worse and lovers of the Nanny State. They are enemies of liberty for sure. Maybe Broun should also ban Catholic Teachings from the Military due to the Pedophilia Episodes of the past years.

  28. rugby fan says:

    Speaking of government and, erm, what I’ve been told is the use of pornography, here is the English Office of Government Commerce’s new logo.


    And turn it 90 degrees:

    The explanation from the OGC spokesman is priceless:

    “We concluded that the effect was generic to the particular combination of the letters ‘OGC’ – and is not inappropriate to an organisation that’s looking to have a firm grip on government spend.”

  29. bowersville says:

    Nice rick-roll, I guess it depends on how you react to playboy, especially the firm grip on government spend.

  30. Jace Walden says:

    How about all of you social conservatives let us who serve decide what is appropriate for us to buy in a store?

    If a kid is old enough to be blown up by an IED, he’s old enough to see a magnificent set of tits. Plain and simple. I lost a lot of respect for Paul Broun over this.

  31. jsm says:

    “I believe that pornography is actually very dangerous and hurtful to society in general.”

    Thadius, I believe that, too. I also believe that beer, liquor, drugs, cigarettes, gambling, debt, sex outside of marriage, and general stupidity are dangerous and hurtful to society. However, the Constitution was not written so that government could control every harmful thing. Freedom is allowing each person the ability to make his own choices. It also allows each person to experience the consequences of his choices.

    We’re either going to be a free society, or we’re not. If we really believe in freedom, we won’t tell adults whether they can buy beer or pornographic magazines, and we won’t mandate when or how they can or cannot buy them.

  32. liberator says:

    Bowersville those orange and yellow signs are just gorgeous celebrations of artistic expression and capitalism as are the strip clubs. BTW go to Follies on Buford Hwy. There is a drop dead gorgeous chick from Columbia who gets all the mens money.

  33. bowersville says:

    Liberator, why would I want to give up my money for something I can’t touch.

    Just like Playboy mags and porn, it makes no sense to me.

  34. Romegaguy says:

    Damn Tanalach Media and their filters!!!

    Remember, the terrorists hate us because of our porn!

  35. joe says:

    Broun gets most of the issues right, but he is so far off the mark on this one that it isn’t funny. He acts like a Libertarian, mostly right, but occasionally needing an aluminum foil hat.

  36. Icarus says:

    I think he should include a ban on the sale of Land O Lakes butter at the PX’s too. Those knees on the box are just a bit too provacative.

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