Push To Permit Guns at Georgia Southern

The Georgia Southern University chapter of Students for Concealed Carry on Campus, in conjunction with the national SCCC organization, will hold an Empty Holster Protest all next week on campus, according to the Statesboro Herald. Group leaders say they want to encourage GSU and colleges all over the nation to allow licensed concealed carry permit holders to bring their guns onto campus.

Jim Alderdan is the sheriff of Larimer County, home to Colorado State University – a university that allows concealed weapons. He is one of the few public voices in support of carrying concealed on campus. “My point is that whenever you make an exclusionary zone, where you say that law-abiding citizens cannot carry concealed weapons, you’ve created a place where criminals can act with impunity because there is no mechanism to enforce the mechanism,” Alderdan said.

Amen, brother! Does anyone really think that exclusionary zones affect anyone EXCEPT those who obey the law?

17 comments

  1. Donkey Kong says:

    I think its a good idea. Here at UGA, for example, it’s always concerned me as to what would happen should a gunman walk into one of the 300 person auditorium rooms in the Student Learning Center. All exits are at the front and there would be no place to go. Mass slaughter would ensue. The only way to minimize the casualties would be if someone with a concealed weapons permit in the room stepped up and dealt with the gunman.

    I know my argument may sound like scare tactics; it’s not. Just think about it. The primary method of security preparation is contingency planning.

  2. boyreporter says:

    “…someone with a concealed weapons permit…”

    What if two dozen were in the room? Or only a couple. Great shoot-out material, guaranteed crossfire carnage. Yeah, that’s it. More guns. How idiotic. Also, it’s pretty clear that gun nuts are guys who don’t feel whole without a gun. As Jay Bookman wrote, so-called men want the right to take a gun to church…where little old ladies go every Sunday without one. Look into the psyche of a gun-lover and you’ll probably find a meek little guy who’s simply a’skeered.

  3. Donkey Kong says:

    boy,

    Perhaps you should spend some time around the type of people who have concealed carry permits. They take their responsibilities *very* seriously. Actually get to know the gun-lover and you’ll find an individual who loves his freedom, and his life, more than you can imagine.

    Sure, you can find a few nuts in any group. But your stereotypes speak to your complete unfamiliarity with these people as to who they actually are.

  4. Donkey Kong says:

    boy,

    Perhaps you should spend some time around the type of people who have concealed carry permits. They take their responsibilities *very* seriously. Actually get to know the gun-lover and you’ll find an individual who loves his freedom, and his life, more than you can imagine.

    Sure, you can find a few nuts in any group. But your stereotypes speak to your complete unfamiliarity with these people as to who they actually are.

    Shootout? Either way, the gunman will be shooting towards students. At least we’ll have the ability to shoot back.

    And, boy, for the record, I don’t have a concealed carry permit though I am of age. I don’t even own a gun. I’d probably get one if I weren’t moving to NYC in a year or so, but I’m not one of those people dying to get a gun or a permit as soon as I turn of age. I’m just glad that some people do.

  5. bowersville says:

    BR has a valid point up to a degree. BR has come close to describing the killers at Columbine and VT. The two heavily armed shooters at Columbine caught the victims in a crossfire. At VT the lone shooter had a captive audience. All the killers took control and continued to kill victims until the killers brought the killing to a halt by taking the self glorification route by killing themselves.

    Object learned: stop the shooter.

    Police are reactionary, not proactive because of probable cause. In other words, unless police have probable cause to stop a shooter prior to the shooter killing victims, police can only react once the shooting starts.

    A suggestion to all campuses and police, develop a plan for active shooters and practice, practice, practice.

    School administrations: Educate yourselves in prevention methods involving an active shooter.

    With probable cause the police can intervene prior to a shooting, without it the police can only react. Students talk, listen and report.

  6. boyreporter says:

    DK: I grew up with hunters and assorted other gun nuts. I know them. The movie-inspired mystique of “shooting the bad guy” feeds their “hero” fantasies, and the power guns give them compensates for some part of their manhood that is missing. Guess what part.

  7. bowersville says:

    BR, which one of those hunters and assorted other gun nuts that you grew up with walked into a school and started shooting?

  8. boyreporter says:

    Bowelsville: Which one of those school shooters didn’t grow up with and have ready access to guns in the home? Most were even trained to shoot and respect firearms, in the name of “safety.” So much for firearms safety training. It just helped the school shooters hit more accurately.

  9. Goldwater Conservative says:

    Whether they go out an kill or not…many, if these blatant fear mongers get their way, will definitely deprived the right to due process to many people all in the name of being a hero.

    This conceled weapons idea is not what “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed” means. I long for the Supreme Court to make their decision and put another nail in this coffin.
    Unfortunately, I fear it will not end there…it is going to take a few “law abiding citizens” that are not well versed in the law to become criminals (accidentally or otherwise) because of trigger-happiness and/or a desire to be a “hero.”
    This will inevitably happen regardless of how the S.C. decides the current case.

    Gun control should focus on safety and knowledge, if anything. I do not like the approaches of either extreme (i.e. take all the guns away…or give everybody guns). Why not make education the priority? A lovely standardized test that binds any and all responsibilities that are covered not only to a persons right to bear arms, but as a contractual agreement that said person will be held criminally responsible for actions taken if they are found to violate the contract.

    Where the lines are drawn will be the subject of debate, and most likely it will be heated.

    Just an idea.

  10. Progressive Dem says:

    Charles Thornton stormed into the Kirkwood City Hall on Thursday night and used two weapons — his own revolver and a cop’s gun he took from an officer who was the first victim of the deadly rampage.

    Charles Lee “Cookie” Thornton carried a large-caliber revolver that he used to shoot and kill Kirkwood Police Sgt. William Biggs outside City Hall about 7 p.m. Thursday. Then, he grabbed Biggs’ .40-caliber handgun and walked into the council chambers with both guns.

    Within minutes, he had killed five people — Biggs, Police Officer Tom Ballman, Councilwoman Connie Karr, Councilman Mike Lynch and Public Works Director Kenneth Yost — before Kirkwood officers shot and killed Thornton.

    Neither slain officer had had time to draw his weapon to fight back, police say.

    I suppose the NRA is going offer better trianing than these police officers had in suburban St. Louis. Dubius at best!!!

  11. Doug Deal says:

    P.D.

    Well, then lets get rid of the right for police officers to carry handguns. You have definitely proven that a rare anecdote is proof enough for any liberal whackiness, so why not that. In fact, I guess this one incident also proves that police officers should all be fired as they do not prevent murders.

  12. bowersville says:

    The police did prevent further murders, they stopped the active shooter, Cookie Thorton dead in his tracks by killing him as he(Thorton) was chasing his last victim.

  13. boyreporter says:

    “Yeah you are right BR, law abiding citizens go out and kill.”

    I know I’m right, Bowelsville. They are law-abiding citizens right up ’til the moment they go on a shooting spree with those guns that were so easily available.

    Now, back to our regular fantasizing program, too long in progress…

  14. Goldwater Conservative says:

    Why don’t we sync v-chips with firearms…and whenever an individual has hateful thoughts or malicious ambitions their firearms will not work. Only when the chip reads a distress signal from your brains output will the firearms function.

    Of course, we need to get a lot of the conservative whackos to believe in science first.

  15. bowersville says:

    Then let’s do away with law abiding citizens by making them all criminals then we can just lock up everybody.

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