Georgia Young Republicans take stand against divisive talk show hosts

by Bull Moose on February 5, 2008

The Board of Directors of the Georgia Federation of Young Republican Clubs (GFYRC) have come together to strongly denounce and condemn the actions of Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and others for using their positions of influence to foment disunity and disharmony among the supporters of the various Republican candidates still in the race.

“It’s hard enough to reunite after a tough primary process,” said GFYRC Chairman Jason Shepherd. “But the over the top statements by these individuals, who many of us have looked up to for so many years, will make it much harder to build enough trust for the Republican nominee, regardless of whom he is, for the GOP to unite this fall.”

The Georgia Young Republicans who voted to pass the Resolution include supporters for every Republican candidate still in the race including Mike Huckabee, John McCain, Ron Paul, and Mitt Romney.

“This isn’t only about supporting one candidate for President,” said Shepherd, “But Republicans will also need to be unified to make sure we win close races up and down the ballot from State House and Senate to Congress. They talk into a microphone or TV camera with no consequences and it is us activists that must pay the price as we fight for our candidates precinct by precinct.”

The Resolution reads as follows:

Whereas: Political Pundits like Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingraham, and Ann Coulter, along with other talk show hosts in national and local markets, have viciously attacked Republican candidates running in the primary election; and 

Whereas:
Many of these same pundits have used their shows and their vast audiences to spread disunity among Republicans when we need to be uniting to face the greater threat to our national security and well being that is embodied in the Democrat candidates for President; and 
 

Whereas:
Despite all of these pundits invoking the greatness of Ronald Reagan, none of them have paused for a second to remember Reagan’s 11th Commandment; and
 

Whereas:
Each of the above named have, through their actions and words, lost the confidence of millions of their fans and Republican voters; and
 

Whereas:
The members of the Georgia Federation of Young Republican Clubs are prepared to support our nominee, whether he is Mike Huckabee, John McCain, Ron Paul or Mitt Romney, against the real threat, the Democrat nominee; now
 

Therefore, be it resolved,
this 5th Day of February, 2008, that the Georgia Federation of Young Republican Clubs strongly condemns and denounces the actions and speech over the past several weeks by Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham, and others for breeding contempt, disunity and hatred among the Republican Party in order to bolster their own careers; and
 

Therefore, be it FURTHER resolved
, that the Georgia Federation of Young Republican Clubs praises talk show hosts like Neal Boortz, who, despite making their preference known, have chosen not to make it their mission to tear down other GOP candidates.
 

{ 102 comments }

GOP Girl February 6, 2008 at 7:42 am

Indy, get your facts right before leveling an attack against the GFYRC. We actually were NOT on the staffs of Saxby or Johnny and MANY of us called their offices to let them know EXACTLY how we felt about immigration and other hot topics.

Kuddos to my fellow GFYRC’s.

And sorry Sheppie, but in the 11th hour, I decided to vote for McCain. Let’s hope he gets on board with immigration.

Chris Farris February 6, 2008 at 7:42 am

Indy,

I don’t find myself agreeing with you much but on two points you made up there I do.

the relatively few worth saving like Cagle, Coburn, Sanford, Westmoreland, DeMint and the RSG in the house.

I am looking forward to the rebirth of conservatism out of the Republican’s ashes.

What I’m not ready to do is burn down the GOP until there is a functioning alternative.

Chris Farris February 6, 2008 at 7:44 am

I don’t blame you GOP Girl. You probably had a Bull Moose stomping through your garden till you relented.

:)

Old Vet February 6, 2008 at 8:03 am

How young and naive does one have to be to “look up to” those clowns, anyway?

John Konop February 6, 2008 at 8:06 am

Please help me understand the difference between Hillary and McCain.

Immigration

Trade

No Child Left Behind ie education

Iraq BTW Hillary has raised more money from military contractors than any other candidate.

Energy /Environment carbon trading ie Lieberman/McCain bill

Campaign Finance reform McCain/Feingold

Other than social issues they are very similar. Also McCain has never been soild on social issues.

Binding Hillary and McCain

GREAT VIDEO

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/binding-hillary-and-mccain

IndyInjun February 6, 2008 at 8:13 am

Bull Moose wrote: “I will say that those who have sour grapes should probably quietly take leave ”

We are gone bye-bye in 2008. Did y’all get a gander how many more folks voted on the Dem side yesterday?Also, given the JUSTIFIABLE rancor about the leading GOP candidates, 50% of the folks on the GOP side won’t accept whichever POS is nominated. This spells wipe-out.

Chris Farris wrote: “What I’m not ready to do is burn down the GOP until there is a functioning alternative.”

There won’t BE a functioning alternative until the GOP is burned down.

Make no mistake……. a vote for any of the 3 top GOP candidates is a vote against reform and a vote for “business as usual” as practiced over the last 7 years.

That is destroying America and I won’t accommodate it with my time, money, or votes.
The RNC’s fundraising is off 20% from prior years, too.

Shep wrote: “We’re just saying we’re tired of the tone that these people set.”

You weren’t tired of their tone when they were touting every misguided, disastrous step of the Bush administration. In other words, once it was clear that they were toadies, you expected them to stay that way.

GOP Girl: I based my comment on a remark that Shep made about working for Linder. If I made a mistake on this point, I apologize.

An awful lot of folks on PP have an agenda that has nothing to do with principles of the party or those upon which America was founded.

Chris wrote “What I’m not ready to do is burn down the GOP until there is a functioning alternative.”

There won’t BE a functioning alternative until the GOP is brought to its knees and threatened with extinction.

A vote for any of the major GOP candidates is a vote against the principles that gave rise to my expenditures of time, money, and votes.

Tea Party February 6, 2008 at 9:29 am

Folks, Indy done stole the show.

My GOP is now the ’spend and spend’ Party. I voted for Obama out of protest.

Were we not hopeful when the GOP took the House, Senate and Executive offices?

The GOP squandered an opportunity to address the big issues and leaves us holding the poop bag of recession, debt, the same problems .

My local Reps. just got their butts handed to them because their costly, divisive attempt to create another layer of government (Dunwoody) was voted down by a true fiscal conservatives, Rep. Jill Chambers and Rep. Mark Hatfield.

Bill Simon February 6, 2008 at 9:45 am

John,

You’re a bit too focused on specific issues as opposed to ideology.

Hillary Clinton has it in her heart to turn the USA into her cherished form of Marxism. John McCain does not.

Beej February 6, 2008 at 10:17 am

The Young Republicans are missing the point entirely. These hosts aren’t party flacks for the Republicans. They are conservatives – which they’ll tell you at any opportunity – and are only incidentally Republicans.

They have been carrying the Republican Party’s water for a long time. Given the dismal array of Republican candidates the party winnowed down to this primary, I think the Republicans are lucky the conservative talk show hosts reached down and found one they could support.

But it’s not to be. We’re likely sending in a candidate indistinguishable from the old-time Democrats.

It’s depressing to me and I’m sure it’s depressing to the hosts, but you know what? The Republicans will probably still luck out and have these talk show hosts support John McCain if he’s the candidate just because the Dems have moved so frighteningly far left.

Keep poking the water- carriers in the eye with childish acts like this resolution and let’s see how far you can push your luck. From where I sit, it’ll make no difference anyway. I’m mentally preparing for a Democrat president.

No matter which candidate wins now, we’ll have amnesty for illegal immigrants and go back, not just to a permanent Democrat majority in the House and Senate, but a comfortable majority.

I know, I know. I’ll go be grumpy somewhere else.

John Konop February 6, 2008 at 10:32 am

Bill

What does ideology matter if they vote wrong anyways? Is that not the problem with the GOP? I am old school I watch what people do not what they say.

Three Jack February 6, 2008 at 10:50 am

Wonder if Rush will lead his show with an apology today since he has been taken to the woodshed by Shep and GFYR?

Isn’t this the same group that supported Sonny? How’s that working out for you?

Doug Deal February 6, 2008 at 11:22 am

John,

There are also 2 members of tSCOTUS who are one or two oxygen bottles away from “retirement”.

Even if John McCain is not capable of appointing a John Roberts or Alito, he is capable of appointing someone to the right of John Paul Stevens and Ginsburg.

John Konop February 6, 2008 at 11:52 am

Doug

In all due respect when do you draw the line and say enough is enough? Is the party bigger than what stand for?

John Konop February 6, 2008 at 11:52 am

Sorry

Is the party bigger than what you stand for?

IndyInjun February 6, 2008 at 11:59 am
Doug Deal February 6, 2008 at 12:40 pm

John,

I said enough is enough many years ago, and I put the future of the concept of liberty and the dream of the founding fathers above the Republican party as well as even the US Government. However the practicalities of how the Supreme Court is selected require one to hold on until at least one of these socialist idiots “retires”.

Have you seen how many 5-4 votes there have been that either just barely stop or enact something horrific? As bad as Congress and the President can be, the bigger problems with the nation seem to stem from the Supreme Court, and particularly the three socialists who want to rule by fiat, with help from the “moderates”.

Voting third party or for the Dems will do nothing other than give Stevens and Ginsberg the opportunity to step down and get a young replacement that is even worse. In the long run, the 40 years those people would be on the bench would more than adequately trump however bad one could envision McCain being.

Bull Moose February 6, 2008 at 4:51 pm

These hosts aren’t Republicans first. They aren’t Conservatives first. They are CAPITALISTS first.

They are making money off of the movement. They are also opportunists and need to be called out for what they are.

There is nothing wrong with it.

Though it is when they try and drag our party down in the process.

John Konop February 6, 2008 at 5:18 pm

The problem is Bull you never called guys out like Rush when they were pit bulls spewing hate against people you did not support.

Even when you find out war monger Rush was on drugs and dodged the Vietnam war via a pimple on his rear you said nothing.

I may not agree with McCain on Iraq but I do respect him for not using a pimple to get out of serving and than pushing other people in front of harms way!

Doug Deal February 6, 2008 at 5:24 pm

John,

I find Rush boring and self-agrandizing, but his draft number was around 175, and no one above 125 was drafted, how exactly did he “dodge” the draft?

Buzz Brockway February 6, 2008 at 5:26 pm

Careful John or the YR’s will condemn you as divisive for your vicious attacks against Rush.

Buzz Brockway February 6, 2008 at 5:43 pm

Incidentally, what John said about Rush is much worse than anything I’ve heard Rush say about McCain. In fact Rush recently defended McCain against some stupid attack Ross Perot was trying to launch.

John Konop February 6, 2008 at 5:59 pm

Buzz

What did I say about Rush that was not the truth?

From Politico

….My classmates went to Vietnam, he did not. He was 4F. He had a medical disability, the same medical disability that probably should have stopped him from spending a lifetime in a radio announcer’s chair; but it is true, isn’t it? If he has an inoperable position that allows him not to serve, presumably it should not allow him to sit for long periods of time the way he does. I think this is a serious enough offense for the people who fund him, who buy ads and allow him to be on the air, need to be asked if this is what they really stand for, do they think it is all right for someone who has never served to denigrate the men and women who have simply because they are expressing an opinion. Frankly, I thought that is what we are fighting for……

Read about Rush and his his draft status!

http://www.snopes.com/military/limbaugh.asp

shep1975 February 6, 2008 at 6:08 pm

No Buzz, Rush isn’t running for anything.

But many you should be worried, especially with a nickname like “Buzz” ;)

shep1975 February 6, 2008 at 6:08 pm

sorry many –>maybe

Doug Deal February 6, 2008 at 6:18 pm

John,

Regardless of his draft status, his draft number was never called. It’s like giving someone a speeding ticket while in bumber to bumber traffic because HE WOULD BE speeding if the road was clear.

Personally, I think a free society demands that all drafts be abolished. If our government cannot convince enough citizens to man it’s wars, they should not be faught in the first place. So I have no trouble with draft “dodgers” whether Bill Clinton, Rush, Bush, or whoever, since or government should have no power to draft in the first place.

John Konop February 6, 2008 at 7:22 pm

Doug

It was his right to avoid Vietnam war, but for Rush to question other vets service to our country like his has done takes hypocrisy to new level. He has the god given right but it was given to him by the very VETS he puts down.

As you know I disagree with McCain, Kerry, Cleland …. on many issues but I would never question their service.

Jason Pye February 6, 2008 at 7:28 pm

These hosts aren’t Republicans first. They aren’t Conservatives first. They are CAPITALISTS first.

Patriotism before profit, right? I am so tired of that bullshit line.

IndyInjun February 6, 2008 at 7:53 pm

“These hosts aren’t Republicans first. They aren’t Conservatives first. They are CAPITALISTS first.”

Is it too much to expect that they and Y’ALL be AMERICANS FIRST?

IndyInjun February 6, 2008 at 7:55 pm

This is perhaps the most revealing topic to ever be posted on Peach Pundit. I find it to be chilling.

SpaceyG February 6, 2008 at 7:57 pm

Lie down with dogs…

John Konop February 6, 2008 at 7:57 pm

Indy

I was thinking the same thing!

Romegaguy February 6, 2008 at 8:08 pm

most revealing topic…

now who hasnt posted on this thread? … hmmmm, now who could it be that the lack of their postings on this thread has helped make this a good topic?

Doug Deal February 6, 2008 at 9:00 pm

Indy,

So what did it reveal?

Romeguy,

Demonbeck?

I can’t imagine who else you might be referring to…

shep1975 February 7, 2008 at 5:30 pm

Doug, some times a draft is necessary. If not for drafts, there would be a United States of America and a Confederate States of America.

If not for drafts, America may have had to start speaking German in 1917 or 1945. My great grandfather was drafted into WWI and my great uncles were drafted into WWII.

It would be nice to say that all wars can be fought with an all volunteer army, but most people will not fight for freedom unless forced to do so. War is a nasty thing, be the consequences of not going to war can sometimes be a lot worse than sacrifices that war calls on nations to make.

Jason Pye February 7, 2008 at 5:51 pm

I guess you missed the part of the Constitution about involuntary servitude.

Did you know that foreign law was used as justification for conscription?

joe February 7, 2008 at 6:25 pm

Jason,

If you think that the time I spent in the Army was voluntary servitude, then you are a little confused about the military, or are confused about servitude.

Bill Simon February 7, 2008 at 6:42 pm

John,

If you spend all your time watching what people do, rather than understanding what drives them, don’t bitch to me if the Dems get in and decide to pass a 95% marginal tax on any income you make over $100,000.

Doug Deal February 7, 2008 at 6:43 pm

Shep,

So, you actually believe that Germany would have conquered the USA in both WWi and WWII?

You do realize that WWI was just a slaughterhouse with almost no movement in the line until we chose sides (a mistake) and threw off the balance of the war. If we had not entered WWI, Germany could have found a suitable peace.

Instead we allow the equally guilty France/England/Russia dictate overly harsh terms leading to the rise of Hitler and WWII.

Before making absurd comments, actually read history.

Doug Deal February 7, 2008 at 6:46 pm

joe,

Of course he didn;t say that. Argue with some intellectual honesty.

If you are so in favor of a draft, would you object to the government hauling you off to farm for national security reasons? If you think that is wrong, then it is wrong if it is for war as well.

If the government cannot convince it’s citizens that a war is neccessary, the war should not be faught. Besides conscripts are nigh useless.

shep1975 February 7, 2008 at 10:54 pm

Buy Doug, I don’t even know where to being refuting the level of ignorance in your comments. Neal Brootz would just chalk it up to you having learned history in a government school.

shep1975 February 7, 2008 at 10:55 pm

Boy Doug, I don’t even know where to being refuting the level of ignorance in your comments. Neal Brootz would just chalk it up to you having learned history in a government school.

Doug Deal February 7, 2008 at 11:03 pm

Shep,

You are the one that claims that “we would be speaking German” after WWI or WWII if we didn’t have a draft. Please explain how this would have happen, I am in need of a good laugh.

Jason Pye February 7, 2008 at 11:05 pm

Boy Doug, I don’t even know where to being refuting the level of ignorance in your comments. Neal Brootz would just chalk it up to you having learned history in a government school.

Hmmmmm.

joe February 7, 2008 at 11:52 pm

Doug,

Do you maintain that DRAFT = involuntary servitude does not imply that ENLISTMENT = voluntary servitude?

If that is your arguement, I have no response.

Doug Deal February 8, 2008 at 12:03 am

joe,

So you do not think that there is any difference between being forced to do something against your will and doing something with your consent?

A draft implies that you are chattle of the government. Volunteering as a soldier has no such implication.

IndyInjun February 8, 2008 at 12:29 am

Doug Deal -

What gives me the creeps is how so many here subjugate any notion of principle to an utterly lamentable party that has brought upon America the greatest wave of corruption in her history.

Despite my years of support for the GOP, it has NEVER, EVER been blind support. When the party nominated Dole in 1996, who know nothing of conservatism, I voted for the other GOP candidates, but refused to vote for him.

I remember my friend Phil Kent wailing to me that if good conservatives like me stayed home, Clinton would win. I did, he did and I was proud of my INDEPENDENCE in the face of the GOP slap in the face of conservatism. Fact of the matter was that Clinton probably made more of a conservative President than Dole ever would have.

Folks who are blindly partisan are the problem and can never be part of the solution. And that goes for both sides.

Doug Deal February 8, 2008 at 12:58 am

Indy,

You’re right, blind faith in parties is a bad thing. If you are a Democrat, the reason the Republicans are so bad is that you do not hold your Dems to any kind of standard. If you are a Republican, the reason the Dems are so bad is because you do not Republicans to any kind of standard.

If you do not work to improve your own party, the other side has no reason to improve to beat you. On the other hand, put out good candidates, and take the right side of issues, and the other side has to improve or die. Sadly, its easier to just destroy the your oponents than improve yourself.

John Konop February 8, 2008 at 5:40 am

Bill

The money from special interest is what drives them!

Bill Simon February 8, 2008 at 8:54 am

John,

Again, McCain would not sign whacky tax legislation that Hillary or Obama would.

Right now, McCain is being driven by “special interest” individual Republicans.

But, if the Dems get in, I’m sure you’ve reserved a tony spot in a gulag somewhere.

shep1975 February 8, 2008 at 9:51 am

No Professor Doug. You were the one who said I was absurd without any facts to back up your historical claim. Why don’t you go first.

What Pye? You never have typos? :)

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