Mike Huckabee/Fair Tax Rally on Saturday in Lawrenceville

Received via email, another political event for your Saturday:

Come join us in Lawrenceville for a Mike Huckabee/Fair Tax Rally from 4-6pm, tomorrow, Saturday February 2nd. Congressman John Linder, who is a bit under the weather, is scheduled to be there along with Radio Host Neal Boortz. The event will be held at the Gwinnett County Airport, Briscoe Field.

Huckabee/Fair Tax Rally
4:00 – 6:00pm
470 Briscoe Blvd NE
Lawrenceville, GA 30045


  1. GOPeach says:


    Georgia Christian Alliance – Saturday 10am-4pm

    Reminder: The Georgia Christian Alliance will hold its annual Faith, Family, and Freedom Kickoff this Saturday, from 10:00am-4:00pm at Riverwood High School in Atlanta.

    Riverwood High School
    5900 Heards Drive NW
    Atlanta, GA 30328

    A Presidential straw poll will be held. Come show your support for Mike Huckabee and have a chance to hear from several state and national leaders within the conservative movement. Tickets are $30 per person and, if you prefer, you can purchase them online at the website provided below:

    Georgia Christian Alliance website


    Mike Huckabee/Fair Tax Rally on Saturday 4 -6 PM

    Come join us in Lawrenceville for a Mike Huckabee/Fair Tax Rally from 4-6pm, tomorrow, Saturday February 2nd. Congressman John Linder, who is a bit under the weather, is scheduled to be there along with Radio Host Neal Boortz. The event will be held at the Gwinnett County Airport, Briscoe Field.

    Huckabee/Fair Tax Rally
    4:00 – 6:00pm
    470 Briscoe Blvd NE
    Lawrenceville, GA 30045
    Location Map

    Woodstock First Baptist Church – Sunday Morning

    Presidential candidate, Governor Mike Huckabee will be giving his personal testimony at both services at Woodstock First Baptist Church this Sunday morning, February 3rd, 2008. Visit their website for service times.

    3rd Street Park in Macon, Georgia from 3:00 – 4:40 p.m.

    The rally will be at the Cherry and 3rd Street Entrance.

    GRTL PAC has endorsed Governor Huckabee for President. Gov. Huckabee responded to our inquiry of his position on the life issues by stating, “In keeping with my consistent support for life, I believe in the ‘one exception’ clause for the life of the mother and I support the Georgia Personhood Amendment. I also support, and have consistently done so, the Human Life Amendment to the United States Constitution.”

    Gov. Huckabee has a proven track record of solid pro-life legislation during his terms as governor of Arkansas. He is noted for having passed a state “Human Life Amendment” which says that “the policy of Arkansas is to protect the life of every unborn child from conception to birth.” Arkansas Amendment 68 will take effect the moment that Roe vs. Wade is reversed. He is especially supportive of our efforts here in Georgia, to promote the passage of H.R. 536, the Paramount Right to Life Amendment (www.personhood.net).

  2. Jason Pye says:

    You know the only reason he backs this plan is because it came with an instant constituency and he didn’t have to spend any money to hire someone to develop a tax plan.

    The same could be said for his immigration plan.

  3. eschristian says:

    I can’t wait until the Fair Tax rally – they are always fun and a great group of people. I am so happy Boortz and John Linder and I heard Herman Cain (I hope he is there too) which will make it even better. I also can’t wait until Sunday to see Mr Huckabee in Macon. Fun weekend ahead.

  4. IndyInjun says:

    “At least he has a plan and not afraid to use it!”

    Such can be said of a 5 year old and a book of matches.

  5. onemadamerican says:

    Yeah Boys, your Southern Sense might just be lacking. Why would any Georgian want a man of faith and principals in the White House? I mean we have such great other choices, McCain, Romney, Clinton, Obama; just pick one of them.
    Sure the Huck isn’t perfect, but he’ll tell you that. The others will tell you that they are and “change” their issues to suit the audience they are addressing. I wrote a “fair tax” proposal 10 years ago, as did Steve Forbes many years ago. What’s important isn’t that Mike supports what may be someone else’s idea, it’s the fact that HE will actually try and make them reality. Mental midgets support Party platforms and Candidates the media and 60 second sound bites infuse. With Mike Huckabee, what you see is what you get. Whether you support him or not, at least give credit for participating in the process. You might just find he is the Seabiscuit of 2008. What have you done for your Country today?

  6. ConservativeCaucus says:

    He isn’t going to be at the rally, is he? It says Linder and Boortz, but not Huckabee.

    I thought Huckabee was in GA on Sunday.

  7. IndyInjun says:

    The Fair???tax is a con job being hawked by snake oil salesmen.

    Cut spending was the necessary precursor for tax reform, but Linder et all DOUBLED SPENDING and hence doubled taxes via the inflation tax.

    Any more of Linder’s “reform” and the USA will declare bankruptcy.

  8. Jason Pye says:


    That is about the most pathetic post I’ve seen here. I fight for the ideal that was at the core of the founding of our nation and that is liberty. Clearly, Tax Hike Mike is a protectionist, populist candidate that would do more harm than good.

  9. IndyInjun says:

    Linder et al doubled the debt and increased social programs 70%, so how does he have credibility at all on tax reform?

  10. Romegaguy says:

    I particularly love the fact they are conducting a presidential straw poll at one of Huckabee’s rallies. He might even win that one…

  11. IndyInjun says:


    Get Linder, Boortz, or Huckabee in a neutral forum and I will debate any or all on the Fair????tax.


  12. GodHatesTrash says:

    The kinds of morons that like hate radio hosts like Boortz, televangelist rejects like the Huckleberry, and sleazy lazy congressmen like Lindner love the Fair Tax.

  13. GOPeach says:

    Presidential Candidate Mitt Romney, is using a taped telephone message that is a blatant lie!

    “Hello, this is Governor Mitt Romney. The race for the republican nomination for President is now a two person race…”

    This is another of his numerous LIES. Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee are still in the race, and Huckabee is in a great position to come in ahead of Mitt Romney!
    He is lying to people in his phone message to make them think Huckabee has dropped out of the race. He has spent millions on false and misleading ads, and purchased media companies in an effort to gain control of the election. He is desperate.


    Please tell people you know HUCKABEE and PAUL are still in, and not to fall for Romney’s latest fat lie!

  14. IndyInjun says:

    McCain and Romney should drop out. They have equal chances of winning the Presidency with Paul and Huck.

  15. onemadamerican says:

    Jason Pyle,
    Had you left out the L intentionally or is it PILE?
    YOU fight? For whom? McCain, Romney, Clinton or Obama? Now I am sure the founding fathers would endorse one of them. You my friend must have been under a rock for years. We lost our “freedom” to inept politicians years ago, you want your freedom back, then it is going to take more than your insignificant web page to make a change. You have been breastfed too much Limbaugh and Boortz. Get out for some clean air and a reality check. I guess you are just mad because Cheney was your man.

  16. John Konop says:

    I have a few questions for Fair Tax supporters.

    How are you going to get rid of the IRS with the rebates to people who do not make enough money? Who is going to verify who qualifies for rebate checks?

    Also how much breakage is in your model for tax liens on business that is late and or does not pay the tax? And who is going to do the collection and enforcement on tax liens?

  17. Jason Pye says:

    Haha. Good one, douchebag.

    I don’t care for any of the candidates. I believe that they all represent a threat to liberty in some way, some more than others.

  18. IndyInjun says:

    I just want to be there when the revenuers charge WSB FAIR???tax on Boortz’ show costs at 30%.

    The look on the bozo’s face would be priceless.

  19. IndyInjun says:

    Has it ever occurred to anyone that the folks best positioned to avoid the Fair???tax are ones living in Florida owning yachts and planes at the ready for smuggling operations?

    Anyone know a talk show host fitting this M.O.?

  20. eschristian says:

    John Konop you asked:

    How are you going to get rid of the IRS with the rebates to people who do not make enough money?

    All valid Social Security cardholders who are U.S. residents receive a monthly prebate equivalent to the FairTax paid on essential goods and services, also known as the poverty level expenditures. The prebate is paid in advance, in equal installments each month. The size of the prebate is determined by the Department of Health & Human Services’ poverty level guideline multiplied by the tax rate. This is a well-accepted, long-used poverty-level calculation that includes food, clothing, shelter, transportation, medical care, etc. – you can see the chart at http://www.fairtax.org

    Who is going to verify who qualifies for rebate checks?

    All valid Social Security cardholders who are U.S. residents receive a monthly prebate equivalent to the FairTax paid on essential goods and services, also known as the poverty level expenditures. The prebate is paid in advance, in equal installments each month.

    Also how much breakage is in your model for tax liens on business that is late and or does not pay the tax?

    Retail businesses collect the tax from the consumer, just as state sales tax systems already do in 45 states; the FairTax is simply an additional line on the current sales tax reporting form. Retailers simply collect the tax and send it to the state taxing authority. All businesses serving as collection agents receive a fee for collection, and the states also receive a collection fee. The tax revenues from the states are then sent to the U.S. Treasury. All businesses are tax collectors today. They withhold income and payroll taxes from their employees. Moreover, the vast majority of retail businesses operating in states with a sales tax (45 states currently use a sales tax) are already sales tax collectors. Under the FairTax, retailers are paid a fee equal to one-quarter of one percent of federal sales tax they collect and remit. In addition, of course, retailers no longer bear the cost of complying with the income tax, including the uniform capitalization requirements, the various depreciation schemes, and the various employee benefit and pension rules. Finally, the economic growth resulting from the aggregate, beneficial effects of dramatically lower income tax compliance costs and no payroll or income taxes, customers having substantially more money — the greatest influence on retail sales — and a reasonable fee for collecting the FairTax, all ensure that retailers do quite well.

    And who is going to do the collection and enforcement on tax liens?

    The old aphorism that nothing is certain except death and taxes should be modified to include tax evasion. Tax evasion is chronic under any system so complex as to be incomprehensible. As a percentage of gross domestic product (GDP), tax evasion in 2001 is beyond 2.6 percent, compared to 1.6 percent in 1991. This represents over 16 percent of taxes due. Almost 40 percent of the public, according to the IRS, is out of compliance with the present tax system, mostly unintentionally due to the enormous complexity of the present system. These IRS figures do not include taxes lost on illegal sources of income with a criminal economy estimated at a trillion dollars. All this, despite a major enforcement effort and assessment of tens of millions of civil penalties on American taxpayers in an effort to force compliance with the tax system. Disrespect for the tax system and the law has reached dangerous levels and makes a system based on taxpayer self-assessment less and less viable.
    The FairTax reduces rather than increases the problem of tax evasion. The increased fairness, transparency, and legitimacy of the system induces more compliance. The roughly 90-percent reduction in filers enables tax administrators more narrowly and effectively to address noncompliance and increases the likelihood of tax evasion discovery. The relative simplicity of the FairTax promotes compliance. Businesses need answer only one question to determine the tax due: How much was sold to consumers? Finally, because tax rates decrease, tax evasion is less profitable; and because of the dramatic reduction in the number of tax filers, tax evaders are more easily monitored and caught under the FairTax system.

    IndyInjun you asked who would be best positioned to avoid the Fair Tax – no one would avoid it – it would be collected at the time of purchase of a new good or service. Used goods are not taxed. Here is how the poor would actually come out better in the Fair Tax:

    Let’s look at a billionaire under the FairTax — if he spends $10,000,000 dollars he pays a tax of $2,300,000 and gets a prebate of $4,697 (assuming he is married and has no children). His effective tax rate as a percent of spending is 22.95 percent.

    Now, let’s look at a middle-income married couple with no children under the FairTax — if they spend $50,000, they pay $6,803 net of their prebate for an effective tax rate of 13.6 percent. The effective tax rate increases as spending increases, but never exceeds 23 percent!

    In contrast, if this same couple earns $50,000 in wages today under the current tax system, they pay $4,093 in income taxes and $3,825 in payroll taxes for a total of $7,918 in taxes (15.8 percent) — a tax burden 14.1 percent higher than under the FairTax. In addition, their employer pays another $3,825 in payroll taxes. Most economists agree that the employer payroll tax is actually borne by employees in the form of lower wages. Looked at this way, this couple is paying $11,743 (23.5 percent) in taxes today, which doesn’t even include the hidden taxes they pay every time they make a purchase.

    Finally, let’s look at a low-income couple that spends at the poverty level under the FairTax — they pay no net FairTax at all. Today, under the income tax system, they not only pay 15 percent in payroll taxes, but they also pay hidden taxes — arising from corporate taxes, private sector compliance costs, and payroll taxes passed on to consumers and embedded in the price of everything they buy.

    This is in response to those with questions about the Fair Tax (you can also find out the facts on the FairTax as it is written at http://www.fairtax.org):

    The people here in Georgia are tired of being mugged by the IRS – a group that did not exist until 1900’s – our Founding Fathers did not want an income tax – read the book and do research on your own and find out the etiology of the Income Tax. IRS is a government agency that may by force take everything you own and keep coming after you for years. As the income tax is currently written if the government wanted to they could take 100% of the money you make.

    If you don’t believe me you pay a lot of taxes whether or not you get a refund or not try this, get your W2 forms for last year – get the amount of money (before taxes) and then figure out how much taxes they took out in a % then add 23% to that number and that is the percentage of taxes you are paying now. Taxes are added to everything you buy now. Corporations and businesses do not currently pay taxes – they just collect the money from you added on to the good or service you are buying (marked up if you want to call it that) and pass up the chain to the IRS which is where the 23% add on rate comes to. Sit back and figure out that amount you pay in taxes divide by 12 and see how many months a year you work for Uncle Sam and don’t get to keep that money. Where you are working and making NOTHING and what part of the year you actually start to bring money in. Ask Mitt Romney if Bain Capital pays taxes.

    Where the Fair Tax comes in is – you fire the IRS which takes around 10 Billion dollars per year to run and the 23% taxes which are currently in the good or service are gone. You get to keep your whole paycheck. You get a prebate check from the government every month to keep you up to at least the level of poverty. You are not taxed on used goods. And when you go to buy new goods/services because the 23% has already been removed on the front end it just moves to the back end and you pay it just as you do the state sales tax now. Think about it like this Georgia could do away with the sales tax and “tax the businesses” – you would immediately see the price of the goods/services you buy go up that amount immediately and you would have no prebate, you would have no whole pay check and you would still pay taxes on used goods – that is the difference between the Fair Tax and other sales tax plans out there.
    In this case let me give you an example – you go to the store and buy a coke for $1.00 – currently from the time the coke was started being made, then packaged, then shipped, then on the store shelves – think about how many people were taxed from the beginning to the end in this process – this is how the economists came up with the 23% tax that is already in the goods/services. Now imagine the IRS is gone – you go to the store that same coke costs you 77cents add the 23% sales tax which in a dollar is 23cents and you pay $1.00 to buy your coke – you have your whole pay check and you get a monthly prebate check and the government still collects the same amount because now drug dealers, pimps, prostitutes, illegal aliens, and anybody else who is not currently paying taxes to the IRS now pay taxes too.

    One more beauty of the Fair Tax you don’t pay the 23% on used items – so you just dropped the price by 23%. Remember the days of flipping houses – you could flip a used house with NO CAPITAL GAINS and no tax at all because bye bye IRS. Now that is an economic stimulus package that will actually stimulate the economy. You can buy a used car and the price dropped 23% and again you have ALL of your income because you are not penalized for productivity and you have the prebate checks – now tell me you have more money coming to you and it is so simple you don’t have to do any calculations – you already know you are paying 23% tax just like everyone else and the only way that could be raised would be by the people !!! Imagine that power taken from the government and handed back to the people – our Founding Fathers would be so proud – history truly does repeat itself. Oh and by the way – should we get the government to decrease it’s spending which needs to happen anyway – the sales tax rate of 23% could be lowered even more.

    Would you like to know who created the Fair Tax? I guess since you don’t know the correct answer I’ll tell you – actual ECONOMISTS !!!

    Yes, plural – economists who were hired by a group of businessmen in Texas – successful free market businessmen.

    Americans For Fair Taxation was formed in 1995 as a 501 (c)(4) nonprofit, nonpartisan, grassroots organization solely dedicated to replacing the current tax system. It began as a research organization with the initial goal of finding out what the American people wanted in a tax system, what they felt was the best way for the government to collect revenue, and how taxation could be achieved in a way that most benefited the economy and the taxpayers. Many diverse groups of Americans participated in the extensive polling and focus group studies, and then a nonpartisan team of ECONOMISTS was commissioned to develop the FairTax plan. The organization today has hundreds of thousands of members and volunteers nationwide. Its plan supports sound economic research, education of citizens and community leaders, and grassroots mobilization efforts.

    Beacon Hill Insitute in Boston has recently completed comprehensive research on the major facets of the FairTax: estimation of the tax base and rate for the FairTax compared to other tax reform proposals, its impact on the economy, on the states, on the distribution of the tax burden and on charitable giving. See the research » http://www.fairtax.org

    Laurence J. Kotlikoff, Professor of Economics at Boston University and former senior economist, President’s Council of Economic Advisers, has extensively published in the field of public finance and tax reform including papers on the FairTax, from overviews for non-technical readers to fundamental economic for economists. See the research » http://www.fairtax.org

    A Macroeconomic Analysis of the FairTax Proposal (PDF) (found at http://www.fairtax.org)
    This study employs a dynamic supply-side economic model to estimate the impact of the FairTax on major economic indicators: GDP, disposable income, consumption, investment under the FairTax are all exceed what they would be if the current system were to remain in place.

    If you have anymore questions I will be glad to answer them – also, http://www.fairtax.org has all the answers to your questions.

  21. John Konop says:


    If the government gives out rebate checks do you not think that people would not figure out ways to get a check ie fraud? Someone has to make the determination and who would that be? And if it is HHR instead of the IRS what is the difference? And would not HHR have to hire and train people like the IRS to verify and enforce?

    As far as State tax liens for back sales tax you would be surprised how much is out their. I do not know the figure I just see it on applications for business.

  22. IndyInjun says:

    John K

    Good Point.

    The IRS is replaced by the DOR which has rights to audit individuals. The FT requires that the individual customer keep receipts, file returns in lots of instances, and makes the customer responsible for the tax. This is in the BILL, lest the cultists start their usual chant of “read the BOOK!”

    The FT org has this cute little ad that says make April 15 just another spring day, but their tax scheme brings April 15th around every month for millions of folks who are being told they never have to file a return.

    This deal is a con job, pure and simple.

  23. Bill Simon says:

    All valid Social Security cardholders who are U.S. residents receive a monthly prebate equivalent to the FairTax paid on essential goods and services, also known as the poverty level expenditures. The prebate is paid in advance, in equal installments each month.

    Really? So, teenagers who have valid SS#’s will all get “prebate checks?”

    Wow…what a GREAT….errrr….FARCE of a plan!

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