Fred isn’t dead yet. Fred’s best days were when he wasn’t a candidate. Well guess what? He’s not a candidate again. Expect Fred’s numbers to go up and he’ll beat the Democrat from Hope, the Mormon from Boston and the Grumpy guy from where-ever McCain is from.
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Soul,
I got news for you: In the vast number of Republicans, these perverts constitute such a MINUTE percentage that it is meaningless in terms of real statistics as a part of the Republican voter population.
The same cannot be said of the Dems who pardon more criminals, more rapists, and who are the biggest bleeding-heart namby-pambies when it comes to law enforcement that to hear your comments demonstrate to me that that glass house you live in needs to have a Hummer run through it.
Of course, it’s a small percentage. However, before you continue lecturing liberals, be aware: that series of incidents makes it very difficult for average people to trust that the latest person proclaiming him or herself to be a “Valiant Protector of Family Values!(tm)” is not a hypocrite. That is, whether you acknowledge it or not, a serious marketing problem for you (among other things).
The burden of proof is NOT on our side at this point. As for me personally, I disagree with the death penalty because I’m not confident we can be right enough of the time (and because this isn’t the friggin’ OLD TESTAMENT) but keeping them locked up is NOT a problem except from a capacity perspective.
As for the macho bullcrap: It also wouldn’t hurt if your party focused on enforcing laws where people were ACTUALLY HARMING OTHERS, not laws regarding what people do behind closed doors as consenting adults. [not closed public bathroom stall doors---closed doors of private homes....you know, the place people should be able to shoot to kill once someone steps in to steal their TV!] Being libertarian except when it comes to people’s sex lives is hilariously hypocritical.
Funny how much of your message concerns “turds of society,” “libbies” (pre-school pejorative), “bleeding-heart namby-pamby” etc — did you graduate from the Sean Hannity Pre-School for the Fair and Balanced? Going forward, stick to the issues…k?
What, ad hominem attacks have been outlawed?
Wow. I was talking about freedom and personal responsibility. You apparently have a pet issue there, drift.
And BTW, Jace… “GOPer?” Where did you come up with that moniker? You know, there are some conservatives who are still in the Republican Party because it’s the only place we have a chance to be heard. We choose to believe we there is hope to turn this party around. Is Ron Paul a “GOPer,” too?
JSM,
At the risk of hell freezing over, or at least Atlanta getting snow again tonight, I’ll say something positive about Ron Paul.
At the end of last night’s debate, he answered the question of whether he was a Republican or going to run as a third party candidate much better than the first time he asked the question.
He said that the was a Republican, he had been elected 10 times as a Republican, and intended to stay a Republican, but hoped that the rest of the Republicans would stop their wasteful spending and such.
There are a lot of us that fit that description. We just disagree on the same approach to the solution.
Paul did have a very good answer, which can be seen here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVnOMMnMQSw
JSM,
Sorry for the confusion there. When I said GOPer, I meant the shameless partisan lapdogs who talk a big game about “small goverment” and “cutting spending”, but really just bend over and take whatever their GOP representatives give them because “Hillary will be worse”.
You know…kind of like you.
What do you mean “Conservatives” have a chance to be heard in the Republican Party?
I don’t recall that having happened in at least 10+ years.
And no, Ron Paul wouldn’t qualify as a GOPer because he’s not a shameless partisan lapdog.
Wow, Jace. You’re starting to post like Peach.
What are you “bend[ing] over and tak[ing]” from the representatives you vote for?
Patriot Act
Record Spending
Doubling the size of the federal government
Nation-building in every corner of the globe
Endless Scandals
Hypocrisy
Destruction of Private Property Rights
Shall I continue?
Wow…I can’t believe I had to spell that out for you. You really are a committed GOP mouth-breather, aren’t you?
Sorry, JSM, I don’t have an etch-a-sketch or crayons to spell it out with, so if you’re still confused, I can’t help you.
Jace…there is a difference between being “heard” and being “listened to.”
Conservatives are always “heard” from in the GOP, just not listened to very often.
In the Dem party, though, they would jump on top of a conservative and pummel them into the ground before letting them speak out a subject. They don’t like to hear OR listen to anyone else.
Jace,
Thanks for making my point so clearly. You are bending over and taking all these things from those you vote for, yet you try to ridicule me because I have to live with what “my” GOP representatives do.
Neither of us like what’s happening in government, but since you’re so brilliant and I’m supposedly the “committed GOP mouth-breather,” let me explain a couple things. First, I’m not committed solely to the GOP; I am committed to my conservative values. Secondly, we clearly have different views on how to fight governments ills. You go vote for the democrat and prepare to spread ‘em wide. I’ll vote for the person whose views are closest to mine and then make all the noise I can make for the principles I believe in.
What makes you think I’m voting for a Democrat? Oh, because everyone who doesn’t support the default GOP candidate must be voting for a Lib’rul, right?
I, like you, will be voting for the person who I agree with the most.
What are your choices? Since there aren’t gonna be a whole lot of Libertarians on the ballot, it looks like your choices are gonna be “the default GOP candidate” and the democrat for most offices in November.
You ain’t gonna vote fer none o’ them ‘GOPers,’ are ya?
There’s always “Leave it Blank” or write-in “Ron Paul”.
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