Quote of the night.

Barak Obama: “This feels good. It’s just like I imagined it when I was talking to my kindergarten teacher.”

Hat Tip: Jennifer Rubin at the AmSpec blog.

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  1. RuralDem says:

    Edwards is the only one out the three who could do well down here.

    If McCain is the nominee we’ll need someone who can campaign throughout the country, not automatically write off states like Kerry did in 2004.

    Sure, Obama and Hillary have the money, and Edwards is using public funding, but so is McCain, so an Edwards vs McCain matchup would nullify the entire money argument.

    Hillary will anger Republicans to the point where they will come out just to vote against her, and I believe that will hurt Barrow, Marshall, and other moderate/conservative Democrats.

    The Presidency is important, but I’m trying to look at the big picture.

  2. Adrian Doyle says:

    “I hope the party wakes up before it is too late.”

    Seriously? Barack Obama outpolled Edwards and Clinton COMBINED among independents in the most conservative, rural parts of Iowa (the western part). He is outpolling both among independents in New Hampshire and in national polls.

    This means we have a candidate who can appeal to African-American voters (something that will help a lot down South), independents in swing states like Iowa, and has a unifying, post-partisan message.

    Sure, maybe some rural whites in the South won’t vote for him because he is black. But there is a good chance they also don’t like the idea of a woman or a trial lawyer as President. The point is that they’re going to find some reason not to support the Democrat anyway.

    If this were an election in Georgia, it might be important to have that kind of appeal. But Obama gets us a lot of new people (independents) in so many more places that it doesn’t matter.

  3. Mike Hauncho says:

    Obama might pick up the black vote but what’s surprising about that? Not to steroytpe but the Dems would get that vote either way. I think the deciding factor is how many people will not vote for a black or a woman. You cannot poll that because everyone would say they would but once they are in the voting booth they may change their mind. I don’t see any clear advantage to having Obama over any of the other candidates. And I know the youth turned out for him but Kerry thought they would come through for him too. Never expect something from a group that has never come through. On Nov. 4 they will all stay in bed as usual.

  4. Adrian Doyle says:

    It’s not about “getting” African-Americans to vote for him (that’s kind of a given), but about turning out more by having someone on the ticket that does more to appeal to the African-American community than Kerry or Gore did (and each got 85-90%).

    Higher African-American turnout in Southern states means fewer conservative white folks that he has to spend time paying lip service to in order to win.

    That said, he STILL polls higher among independent, moderate-to-conservative whites than Hillary Clinton and in some states higher than John Edwards.

  5. RuralDem says:

    You’re making a mistake by thinking “well, Obama is black, so other blacks will support him”. Hillary has much more support there.

  6. John Konop says:

    If Obama does well in NH he will rule the black vote in SC and the turn out will be crazy! And that will be the end of Hillary and Edwards!

    The ticket will be Obama and Webb. The GOP will have a problem with that ticket.

  7. StevePerkins says:

    I’m trying not to throw out the race card here, but this anti-Obama logic doesn’t add up for me. “People need to stop turning out in such large numbers to vote for him, because people won’t turn out in large numbers to vote for him”. Huh? If he’s not electable, then he won’t get elected to the nomination… period.

    Is it really THAT shocking that Obama’s in the lead? Hillary has high negatives, and is running the furthest to the right in a year when Democrats aren’t in a center-right mood. Edwards is basically trying to be Howard Dean ’08… which is not a winning formula to begin with, and makes him look like a disingenuous opportunist when consider that he ran as the “moderate option” 4 years ago. I’ll be so bold as to say that the only asset Edwards brings to the table is appeal to people who aren’t comfortable voting for a minority or a woman.

    For better or for worse, Obama makes the most sense on paper as the Democratic nominee. His positions are in the middle between the major Democratic candidates. He has low negatives. I’m not saying I’d vote for him over the Republican nominee, but if you’re an average Democrat there’s no real reason to oppose him other than race.

  8. RuralDem says:

    There’s a difference between Primary and General voters.

    Obama might appeal to the liberal wing of the Democratic Party, but he will not win the vote of mainstream America and the moderate/conservative wing of the Democratic Party would no doubt consider someone like Mike Huckabee in the General.

    “I

  9. Doug Deal says:

    Steve,

    He has not exactly done much beside getting elected to the Senate. As opposed to what you said, actually there is little reason to SUPPORT him other than race. The Democrats have decided to get behind candidates without any exectutive experience at all, and only short legislative resumes.

  10. Dave says:

    Great dig from Obama! Last night we heard a big splash from Hillary’s plunging into the toilet!! Does a flush go clockwise or counter clockwise north of the equator? LOL

  11. StevePerkins says:

    I’m not sold on the myth that voters are really that gung-ho on “experience”. John Edwards is a one-term senator (who hasn’t been in office for four years), whose career basically consists of continuously running for President. Hillary is a 1.33 term Senator, who’s chief experience was sharing a pillow with the President.

    If experience were that critical, your front-runners would be Bill Richardson and Joe Biden. For that matter, your sitting President wouldn’t be a one-term governor from a state with one of the weakest Executive branches in the nation.

    As for the general election, I think the Republicans are going to need more than their opponent being black to turn the tide. Iowa generally has fewer Democrats than Republicans turn out for the caucus, and yet this year’s turnout was RIDICULOUSLY lopsided in favor of the Dems. There’s no Obama-equivalent on the GOP side who shows signs of really energizing the mainstream public. After Bush barely squeaked by in ’00 and ’04, there’s no way that evangelical support will push the Huckster to the White House in this cycle. McCain is well-liked by the mainstream, but has lukewarm support among his own base. As you go down the line of other candidates, the picture gets even more bleak.

    The notion than “people aren’t going to vote for a black guy in the general election” may hold true in the South, but the South has taken itself out of national relevance by becoming a one-party stronghold. I’m not so sure its dynamics (i.e. dumb racists who only care about abortion) will apply to the country as a whole this year.

  12. StevePerkins says:

    If anything, experience HURTS you in modern Presidential politics. Leadership requires you to often do things that piss people off. There’s no way to improve a state’s horrible infrastructure without giving people something to gripe about, so Huckabee has to defend a record of passing taxes to improve his craphole of a state. There’s no way to do ANYTHING with immigration that doesn’t make you an enemy to everybody, so McCain has to defend a record of backing “amnesty” (which is such B.S. it’s unconscionable). You’re better off being a clean slate, who’s never been in a position to accomplish anything. People say they want leadership, but their actions show very little respect for it… they seem to prefer hopeful promises and non-offensive rhetoric.

  13. Adrian Doyle says:

    NOBODY has addressed what I mentioned earlier about the fact that Obama consistently carries independent voters over the “moderate-to-conservative wing” of the Democratic Party.

    Democrats are also so tired of losing elections that they are going to vote for their nominee no matter what. Even moderate-to-conservative Democrats are still partisans (as pretty much all statistics show) and vote for their party’s man (or woman) regardless of disagreeing with them about certain things.

    The people who would not vote for a Democrat blindly that are moderate to conservative are called “independents” and they still seem to favor the gentleman from Illinois.

  14. GOPeach says:

    MUSLIMS see OBAMA as A MUSLIM!!!!

    Please know it!

    The believe if your father was a Muslim, then so are the children ( the opposite with Jews ) –

    Obama’s background. His full name–as by now you have probably heard–is Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. Hussein is a Muslim name, which comes from the name of Ali’s son–Hussein Ibn Ali. And Obama is named after his late Kenyan father, the late Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., apparently a Muslim.

    And while Obama may not identify as a Muslim, that’s not how the Arab and Muslim Streets see it. In Arab culture and under Islamic law, if your father is a Muslim, so are you. And once a Muslim, always a Muslim. You cannot go back. In Islamic eyes, Obama is certainly a Muslim. He may think he’s a Christian, but they do not. ….

    Read more here –
    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2006/12/barack_hussein.html

  15. GOPeach says:

    Obama’s father abandoned him and his mother when he was just a kid (he used Islam’s Sharia Law and its tenets about divorce), yet he feels compelled to follow his father’s roots while totally neglecting his white mother’s heritage and religion. His mother was responsible for who he is today, yet not a peep about her. Not a peep from the LIBERAL media, neither. What a typical, LIBERAL piece of sh*t he is!

  16. GOPeach says:

    I welcome the day-

    A Black Brilliant Conservative wins the White House! …. Like on 24 – David Palmer!!!!

    OR like … HERMAN CAIN!!!!

  17. Carpe Forem says:

    Quote of the Day

    Erick gives credit where credit is due.
    “We can all say what we will about his supporters, but the guy( Ron Paul)has a core, loyal group ready to wade through snow to phone for him,” noted Erick Erickson founder of Republican blog Redstate.
    “Congrats Ron. I expect a similar showing in New Hampshire.”

    RedState banned Ron Paul supporters from its site earlier this year for being overly enthusiastic.

    Erick,
    How about setting a goal for us, say 15% or 4th place finish or better in NH, to earn our way back to RedSate. Then we could finally start promoting the only agent for change and a return to the Reagan coalition that is needed for the GOP to retain the White House.

    Pat Buchanan predicts dysaster in November if this is not accomplished.

  18. Carpe Forem says:

    Quote of the Day

    Erick gives credit where credit is due.
    “We can all say what we will about his supporters, but the guy( Ron Paul)has a core, loyal group ready to wade through snow to phone for him,” noted Erick Erickson founder of Republican blog Redstate.
    “Congrats Ron. I expect a similar showing in New Hampshire.”

    RedState banned Ron Paul supporters from its site earlier this year for being overly enthusiastic.

    Erick,
    How about setting a goal for us, say 15% or 4th place finish or better in NH, to earn our way back to RedSate. Then we could finally start promoting the only agent for change running for the nomination and a return to the Reagan coalition that is needed for the GOP to retain the White House.

    Pat Buchanan predicts dysaster in November if this is not accomplished.

  19. StevePerkins says:

    Disliking a candidate for having a Muslim father is even more retarded than disliking a candidate for being black (and needing 8 back-to-back posts to spit the point out is more retarded still). If anything, I think having Muslim ties is a GOOD thing rather a liability in the current world stage we find ourselves on.

    Same goes for the Mormon whispers about Romney, by the way.

  20. Dave says:

    Folks are damn crazy if they think Obama will govern or give special attention to the radical Muslims we see so much of today. He may be a liberal or have some policies that those of us who are republicans don’t agree with, but make no mistake, if he’s elected or even if he returns to the senate he will do what’s in the best interest of the American people…always. Nice try at the demonization, straw-dog boogie man though….Sheeesh! And speaking of Romney’s Mormanism, I do security clearance investigations for the gov’t, meaning the ones where the agent knocks on the door to talk to your third grade teacher. We love it when we get a Morman applicant because 99.8 times out of 100, the person is going to be free of scandal and they will have led an exemplary life. We need more folks like them.

  21. GOPeach says:

    Steve-

    Your comments show that you have bought the whole “Political Correctness” Bullsh*t!

    You are going OUT OF YOUR WAY to ignore the fact that a person named Barack HUSSEIN Obama will cause the Muslim World to poor money into America with a BIG FAT STRING attached….. Islamofacism!!!!

    Obama was instructed as a young child to LIE TO THE INFIDEL!!! He is doing a GREAT job at that!!!! The Liberal Left are trying so hard to show PROGRESSIVE TOLERANCE and how they can elect a BLACK MUSLIM to hijack this nation if they want to….

    THAT IS WORSE THAN RETARDED!!!

    My FATHER – a career MARINE would puke!
    God rest his soul.

  22. GOPeach says:

    MORMON people are AWESOME! I know plenty of them. My neighbors are Mormon and they are wonderful!

    A Mormon is a Person.
    Mormonism is a Cult!

    Big Difference!

    If a Mormon claims the White House -we will see an increase of that Cult in America.

    If a Muslim claims the White House we will no longer have a Free Nation! Everyone who fails to pray toward Mecca will be murdered.

    Know it!

    I have been to Salt Lake City. I have been to Saudi Arabia, Syria, Kuwait, Lebanon, Jordon, and Turkey.

    If you have not seen the ISLAMIC LAW and CULTURE first hand …. you do not know what the hell you are talking about!!!!

    I had to wear a scarf over my head, long sleeves, long dress to the ankles, and eat in the kitchen with the women away from the dining table with my husband.

    The man of the house kept making a pass at me in front of my husband and his 3 wives in Saudi Arabia. The custom is the man of the house can HAVE any woman who comes into his home – married or not!!!!!

    OPRAH is an IDIOT!!!
    I would LOVE to see her live under Islamic law.

  23. GOPeach says:

    Obama attended while living in Indonesia between the ages of 6 and 10 as a “Madrassa, or Muslim seminary,” and Obama has been “raised as a Muslim” by his stepfather, Lolo Soetoro.

    Now…. I know he can not help how he was raised and I think he could possibly change as an adult to believe something else … a lot of us do that…

    BUT….. it is HOW the Muslim WORLD sees this that scares me!

  24. Dave says:

    GOPeach, do you really think Obama will take direction from Muslims if he’s elected or are you just trying to stir the pot with your statements? We all saw how Kennedy took his marching orders from the Vatican, didn’t we. LOL

  25. GOPeach says:

    I am not saying Obama would take his marching orders from Muslims per se. I am saying that the Muslims are already perceiving him as “their boy”!!!

    Barack , my son says some Imam … you have Arab name like Mohammad. Do not forget your father was Muslim and you are too no matter what anyone say to you. … blah blah…..

    Have you seen the way Barack dresses?????
    Not like a US President but like a Mahmoud Ahmadinejad….

    http://www.bravehumans.com/login/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/obamatieless.gif

  26. Dave says:

    Well, I guess anything is possible, but his having anything other than 100% American allegiances doesn’t bother me. It’s his socialistic policies that might be enacted that will frighten us in a more real way. I mean, this guy has as much charm as the original Clinton without the corrupt, sleazy baggage. The only way Hillary gets back into the White house will be as the damn cleaning lady. I mean, the only hint of controversy that can be exploited on him is his relative inexperience. And as good as he is in front of a crowd, it won’t be enough. This is Hillary’s Ted Kennedy moment. What I mean by that is that Kennedy thought his beating of Carter was a forgone conclusion. Well, he got trounced and then slinked back to the senate. Hillary will do the same. The New Yorkers will never kick her out.

  27. rugby_fan says:

    GOPeach:

    Of everything you have ever typed, I am finally compelled to ask, what the fuck are you talking about?

    I often wear an Oxford sans tie, I guess I was taking sartorial cues from Ahmadinejad.

    And I was in Catholic school at the same age Obama was in Muslim school, so that means the Vatican is teaching them young as well.

    Moreover, I am willing to be that both Huckabee and Paul are receiving money from Muslims too.

  28. rugby_fan says:

    Peach!

    You won’t believe this…

    Mike Huckabee, he was wearing a French Cuff shirt. You know who else does that? The French. Huckster wants to turn America into F R A N C E!!!!!!!!!!!! Why else would he dress lkew one of tehm……..

  29. rugby_fan says:

    Sorry Steve.

    If you were drinking regular Coke you would get a new keyboard but this Diet business is cheating yourself out of 30g of sugar.

    Why would you want to do that?

  30. GOPeach says:

    Holly-

    If you are speaking of Obama having a “religious conversion” in order to wipe away his past transgressions …

    Well – I am a bit more specific that the average ambiguous type ( as you might guess). I do not believe a ” religious conversion” is good enought. I believe it has to do with repentance, a catharsis, a cleansing, a purification, that stems from a spotless and sinless sacrifice AKA the blood of Yeshuah ( Jesus ).

    Obama has never mentioned the name of JESUS!
    He has never said he has surrendered his life to the Lorship of Jesus Christ. He just says he attends a Church of Christ.

    Attendance is not Repentance!

    Clearly he chooses not to say such things because he freak out Muslims!!!

    My husband has a VERY JEWISH name but he boldly confesses Yeshuah his Savior and Lord.

    A Savior rescues us from ourselves ad sin.
    A Lord is Who we submit to.

    Anyway… the Muslims see Obama as lying to the infidels. They are having fun with this.

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