Mike, Thurbert, and Tommy go for Hillary

This means Obama won’t be able to recover in Georgia and Edwards is done in the South, if he can’t secure support from the likes of Commissioner Irvin.

Baker referred to Clinton as “a tested leader,” while Thurmond called her “the change agent Georgians are looking for.”

NB: Does anyone remember who these three endorsed in 2004? I seem to think Irvin endorsed Edwards but I am not certain.


  1. JRM2016 says:

    It seems now is as good a time as any to ask this question–how much do endorsements really mean?

    Fred Thompson just got an endorsement from the best member of the Iowa congressional delegation, but I don’t think that means his Iowa operation is suddenly transformed.

    I have to believe the average Democrat is going to make their own decision and not be terribly influenced by the Comm. of Ag.; Comm. of Labor or AG think.

  2. Andre Walker says:

    Not so fast, NonPartisanGA, Mike Thurmond is a superdelegate to the Democratic Convention, so that’s one more vote for Hillary there.

    Tommy Irvin hasn’t missed a Democratic Convention in forty years, so there’s another vote.

    And Thurbert Baker, there’s no reason to think that he wouldn’t be a delegate to the Democratic Convention as a pledged Party Leader and Elected Official, so there’s yet another vote.

    Add in the votes from John Lewis and David Scott, both superdelegates as Democratic members of Congress, and Hillary has five delegate votes from Georgia to the Democratic National Convention.

    That makes up 20.8% of Georgia’s total delegates. In other words, you can “BFD” these endorsements if you want, but where it counts, Hillary is racking up the votes.

  3. JRM2016 says:

    Good point Andre–I forgot about the SUPER-Delegates.

    Since you brought that up, what is your opinion of the SUPER-Delegates? I always thought that part of the primary process was fairly un-democratic (small d).

  4. Loren says:

    Thurmond endorsed Kerry in ’04.

    As of mid-February 2004, two weeks before the Georgia primary, Baker hadn’t endorsed any candidate.

    For what it’s worth, Kerry was also endorsed by John Lewis, Sanford Bishop and Denise Majette, as well as Max Cleland and Shirley Franklin. Roy Barnes backed Edwards. Vernon Jones originally backed Dean, who quit before Georgia’s primary.

    And Jimmy Carter and Andrew Young don’t appear to have endorsed anybody in 2004.

  5. NonPartisanGA says:


    It doesn’t mean anything if she does not get the nomination. In case you have not been watching the news recently she’s no longer a done deal or the heir apparent.

    To JRM2016’s point the average voter period probably couldn’t even name the Commissioner of Agriculture, the Commissioner of Labor or the Attorney General .

    Chris Rock’s point on the potential consequences of supporting Hillary are pretty funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW7EbURS2h4

  6. Rick Day says:

    “In case you have not been watching the news recently”

    That is your source?

    Dude, you are indeed todays source of my daily dose of LOL-icine.

    Please, spew more; and more often.

    JRM: iawyc re- endorsements meaning anything substantial

  7. NonPartisanGA says:

    Not why you feel Andre need an assist from you Mr. Day, but since the news being ONE of the sources of my information is sooooo humorous, tell us how do you assess what happening in the campaigns?

  8. NonPartisanGA says:

    UPDATED: Not [sure] why you feel Andre need[s] an assist from you Mr. Day, but since the news being ONE of the sources of my information is sooooo humorous, tell us how do you assess what happening in the campaigns?

  9. Decaturguy says:

    I’m not saying that Hillary isn’t going to win Georgia, but I really don’t think that Thurmond, Baker, or Irvin endorsing Hillary really means much.

  10. Jmac says:

    If Obama wins Iowa, which he very well may, and then carries that into New Hampshire for another win … he’ll win South Carolina. If that happens, while Hillary may take Florida and New York, Obama will have enough cred to win Georgia.

    Plus, if Edwards is shut out of those first three states, he’s out and endorses Obama … which may be game, set and match right there.

    Of course, I’m starting to think Edwards wins Iowa to really complicate things.

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