Good for Paul Broun

He and Ron Paul were the only two people to vote against a well intentioned, but significantly flawed bill today in the U.S. House.

The SAFE Act requires that people with open wi-fi access points report child pornography to the feds. It sounds like a great idea. But consider that the bill was rushed to the floor, was never vetted in committee, and was never voted on in committee. Consider also that the legislation applies to all public wi-fi access points and could, under its language, be interpreted to apply to your home if you have wifi that is not password protected.

Consider also that the first requirement for reporting is that the provider of the free wifi must have

62 comments

  1. StevePerkins says:

    I’m absolutely floored, for three reasons at once:

    1) I agree with every single word in an Erick post.

    2) Erick mentioned Ron Paul’s name in a flattering context.

    3) I managed to get a comment in before somebody dropped the “Broun hasn’t been sworn in” joke.

  2. Jace Walden says:

    Unfortunately whoever the dude is that is running against Broun in the primary will be able to spin this as, “Paul Broun votes against protecting our kids from internet perverts”.

    Just wait and see.

  3. Chris says:

    Doug,

    The bill was placed on the House’s equilivant of a “consent agenda” which are usually approved my unanimous consent. I’m betting 400 of the 409 people who voted for it had no idea what was in there.

  4. CobbGOPer says:

    “Unfortunately whoever the dude is that is running against Broun in the primary will be able to spin this as,

  5. Carpe Forem says:

    I wish the rest of them would just, please go home.

    Hey, since they have all disregarded their current oath, you know, that stuff about the constitution and all. Maybe they should start taking the Hippocratic oath. Especially that part about “at least do no harm.”
    Maybe that’s why Paul and Broun are doing such a good job, they’ve already taken both.

  6. Chris says:

    I looked up the bill when Boortz mentioned it, and it didn’t actually seem that bad. As someone who would clearly be covered under this act there isn’t much that I wouldn’t normally do otherwise.

    I still don’t like the lack of a committee hearing or rush to vote.

  7. Carpe Forem says:

    That’s part of the problem. If it is what you would normally do anyway, why is the law needed. Plus, the threat of the outrageous fines if one judges wrong and doesn’t report ( who makes that decission and who is enforcing it and who is paying for the enforcement?) …and one could falsely or wrongly accuse someone, destroying that person’s reputation and the accussee has no civil recourse (and they call this the carrot).

    Being forced to spy on your customers, is just … well, wrong!

  8. Doug Deal says:

    GOPea,

    I agree with you. I was just making an observation 😉

    As this campaign season rolls on, my distaste for some of the more extreme elements of Paul’s philosophy is becoming less important.

    What is coming to the forfront is the status quo, and how happy the Republicans in general are to adhere to it. From Sen. “Bridge to no-where” Stevens to lifelong member of I. Tappa Foot, Sen Craig, to George W. “Deficits as Far as the Eye Can See” Bush, the Republicans have morphed into everything they railed against in ’94.

  9. Donkey Kong says:

    We keep talking about how we need more Congress(wo)men that don’t blindly follow the GOP’s faults…

    …and Rep. Broun has proven himself to be *both* a fiscal and social conservative. Novel concept!

    C’mon guys, let’s support Rep. Broun for his re-election bid. I really wish the party supported him. His policy decisions are right on.

    http://www.paulbroun.com

    *Note: for those who might be wondering, I in now way work for Paul Broun. But I *am* a voter in his district, and am excited about a Rep who places policy over politics.

  10. Donkey Kong says:

    Peachy,

    I supported Whitehead to begin with, though admittedly it was more out of default than anything else. I didn’t know either candidate, and many people whose opinion I respect endorsed Whitehead, so I went with him. I considered him predictable and believed he would listen to his constituents. Had I known during the campaign what I know now, I would have supported Broun. Thankfully, I get a second chance!! I’m just really concerned our party may be tossing out one of our best reps for vindication’s sake, not policy.

    I still can’t believe we are opposing Broun in a primary. I love many in our “establishment,” particularly Reps. Chambers and Ehrhart. Rep. Ehrhart in particular may not know my identity on PP, but he knows he can count on my support as a volunteer whenever he needs it. That being said, I hate that our party is intent on tossing out Rep. Broun.

  11. Insider Mike says:

    Spin, spin, spin, Erick.

    And Jace is right. Barry Fleming will have a field day with attacking Broun on this.

    “Paul Broun even voted against protecting our children from online sex predators…”

  12. GOPeach says:

    I used to be a ” Party Girl” since the late 70’s … those days are over because of the reasons you mentions… The Party often has a bone to pick or vendettas when someone is favored whom they did not pick.

    He was picked by THE PEOPLE – not The Party…. That’s a good thing!!!!

  13. GOPeach says:

    Those who really know Congressman Broun who he is not “against protecting our children from online sex predators”….

    That will backfire!

  14. Donkey Kong says:

    Oh I’m still a party guy…in both senses of the word. Unfortunately, however, sometimes the party makes poor decisions. This is one of them. Some use this as an excuse to leave the party. I use it as a motivation to get involved.

  15. IndyInjun says:

    DK,

    You may flee in terror, but I am with you on this one.

    Barry Fleming is not as formidable as Whitehead and he doesn’t have the support over here he needs to defeat Broun.

    I was not for Broun, but I like what I see.

    He is smart enough to know that the FAIR?Tax won’t work as formulated, so he dropped the rate to an enticing 11% and campaigned on THAT.

  16. bowersville says:

    And none of you that support P. Broun got the phone call that I did because none of you vote in the 10th. A town hall meeting via telephone. A novel idea, but no dice.

    All you experts from outside the 10th never cease to amaze me. I have nothing against Paul Broun. I agree with his votes, but then there is the keen UNawareness of the general voting public.

    Any point of legitimate cerebral political argument can be understood by the self informed voter. But any ignorant *ss that can cast a vote that will believe a jest about the reduction of Athens by a bomb being a serious threat will believe anything, including a “vote against protecting our children.”

    Paul, it’s about economic developement, water basin transfer, protection of life, etc. You have been here and people are listening.

  17. bowersville says:

    BTW, pay particular attention to the concerns of the closer of Ft Gordon and the concerns of the CSRA.

  18. Bill Simon says:

    Chris,

    “We” don’t “pay them.” They pay themselves by raiding the refrigerator every year for more loot (i.e., they vote themselves raises and we do not have a say one way or the other).

    Oh..and, in case someone pipes up with “you can vote them out,” that really doesn’t apply when you think about it, does it?

    Because if you replace a few with new people, they will get paid what their predecessors got paid…and the self-pay system continues.

  19. GOPeach says:

    Kong-

    Oh yes! I was a Nixon Hippie… and I was a republican in GA when it was a BLUE State!
    It was soooo not cool being in the GOP in GA. Now the younger people have it easy because of the flack folks like me and others took. I am battle hardened in many respects… Most ladies my age are not blogging – they are burned out or eating lunches at the Marietta Country Club. Schmoozing…..

    My schmoozing days are over…. I know enough people to choke a mule actually. I prefer hanging out in cyberspace… it’s more for than wasting all the gas driving around in Atlanta trying to see some candidate or elected official.

    When I was a hippie… we did sit ins! Those were the days-

    Peace 🙂

  20. Insider Mike says:

    PS. In my post I said “Congressman Broun.” I meant to say “Congressman-Elect Broun.” I apologize for the confusion.

  21. GOPeach says:

    Bowers –

    I am vicariously enjoying having a GREAT statesman in DC representing me – A GEORGIAN!
    My congressman is David Scott…. gag me with an ugly billboard!

    You should thank God every night for Con. Broun! He votes RIGHT!!!!

  22. bowersville says:

    I’m not supporting Broun, I’m begging an intellectual difference. As you recall I begged for Barry Flemming for Congress in this go around in the special election.

    I’m still begging!

  23. GOPeach says:

    Broun appeals the most to the district to both Republicans and Democrats alike. Barry Flemming needs to stay where he is. He is doing an excellent job.

  24. Holly says:

    What was the topic of the tele-townhall, bowersville?

    Also, one general comment: I notice a lot of you seem to think the voting record is the be-all, end-all of good representation. Far from it.

    I don’t know anything about Broun’s constituent services. After all, I’m not exactly calling the office for help. But anyone can press the voting machine. Once you’re around the process, you learn that the voting record is a minor part of the Congressman’s job. It’s what he/she did when I called the office needing help that matters. Or what he/she did when we needed help with the Corps of Engineers. Or what he did to help the Lock & Dam issue.

    For the record, those last three things are part what made Charlie Norwood so great. He knew the local issues and worked with the people to fix the problems at home. That’s the cornerstone of being a good representative. The voting record is far secondary.

  25. GOPeach says:

    Holly-

    You are so right!!

    Elected officials must be RESPONSIBLE.
    Just ask anyone who has been elected time and time again. They are there when the people need them to be there. They return calls, they write letters, etc… This is what I loved about Newt.

  26. StevePerkins says:

    And none of you that support P. Broun got the phone call that I did because none of you vote in the 10th. A town hall meeting via telephone. A novel idea, but no dice.

    What’s the beef, bowersville? John Linder has been doing these calls for years.

  27. Jace Walden says:

    I don’t have to live in the 1oth district to know that, at least politically speaking, Barry Flemming would be an idiot not to spin this into his favor.

    The sad thing is, most people are stupid enough to buy it.

    I hope Broun wins.

  28. Donkey Kong says:

    Bowers,

    I do vote in the 10th.

    Holly,

    The voting record is far secondary.

    Then, ultimately, party and ideas don’t matter. What matters is what he/she will do for me. Hey, I heard Nancy Pelosi brings back a lot of money for his constituents…Pelosi for the 10th CD!! A politician’s work for his/her constituents is important. But voting record is in no way secondary. Both are necessary elements to a good Representative of the people.

    Peachy, would you support Newt for President in 2012? If a Dem wins in 08, I am expecting Newt to run.

  29. Donkey Kong says:

    Oops. Forgot to close my blockquote. Let me repost:

    Bowers,

    I do vote in the 10th.

    Holly,

    The voting record is far secondary.

    Then, ultimately, party and ideas don

  30. Donkey Kong says:

    Indy,

    Following your endorsement of the venerable Rep. Broun, I am reconsidering my support. 😉

  31. IndyInjun says:

    DK – lol….

    Holly, Sad to say but in his last two terms, Norwood was LOUSY in returning calls or being very attentive at all. I still think he was the GREATEST, albeit one who stayed too long.

    I have nothing but negatives about his staff locally and in DC.

    Bowersville – You tarred the wrong Indy with your brush, although I freely admit to casting aside my 95% GOP history to campaign for John Barrow, the better CONSERVATIVE in the 12th district.

  32. Holly says:

    I said secondary, DK, not only. FYI, love you dearly, but wild statements only serve to make your argument outlandish.

    But let’s go back to the example of Charlie. What won him his first re-election in a district that still trended Democrat was his responsiveness. Charlie showed he cared about the district’s problems and worked to fix them. It won more than a few people over, and it’s why he grew into the powerhouse he was. How many of us really look back at Charlie’s representation and (aside from Indy, possibly) first recall that he had a great voting record? I don’t. I remember that he was there when there was a problem in the area. When asked about his voting record, I would tell you I agreed with it, but it is never going to be the first thing I think about when recalling Charlie.

    Obviously, DK, you’re like me and haven’t needed to call your congressman’s office for help. You’re lucky, and I hope you never need to. I’ve sat on the other side of the desk and talked to people who have had horrible things happen to them that were no fault of their own. Then I’ve had people come in who created their own stews, but that’s neither here nor there. It’s never good when a person needs to call their rep, and I wish it on no one.

    However, I’ve seen it once and I’ll see it again – people who need help come into the office or make a call, and it’s up to how the office treats them and others like them as to how things will go the next November. That person will tell his family, neighbors, friends, etc. if the response was bad. They may tell them if the response was good, but it sure beats the negative comments if the guy says nothing at all.

    Your political advisors can help you when voting time comes, and the vote buzzer will tell you when to show up, but the real test is how you treat those who need your help when they’ve got nothing to give you in return except for maybe good word of mouth.

    FWIW, I’d imagine there are many independents and possibly even some Republicans who vote for Nancy Pelosi out in California. She is very effective at representing her district, but I doubt she could’ve won those folks over by her voting record.

  33. IndyInjun says:

    Holly,

    Norwood’s voting record was why I think he was so great, especially his vote against Medicare D when everyone else on the Georgia Delegation betrayed conservatism.

    You are right about service being important to constituents and I know of several people who raved over the attention that they got.

    If you wanted to discuss policy, as I did, you could forget about it.

  34. GOPeach says:

    That Medicare D is a nightmare.

    Congressman Dr. Paul Broun opposed it also. It makes NO sense. These poor seniors are so confused and frustrated. I am caring for my aging parents and they are more sick over the paperwork for their perscriptions than they are their illness.

    Maybe they should sue Congress for cruel and unusual punishment. God rest Charlie Norwood. He knew first hand how bad the plan was.

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