Democracy rules the day in Venezuela

I know the only Venezuelan connection to Georgia politics is the fact that Macon’s out-going mayor, C. Jack Ellis, wanted to travel to that country so he could meet Hugo Chavez; but am I the only one who’s walking on cloud nine knowing that the voters of Venezuela rejected the Chavez attempt to become “President for life”.

Not only that, Venezuelans rejected socialism too!

Now, the countdown is on ’til Hugo Chavez’s last day in office. My goodness, to see a country reject socialism and a dictatorship excites me (even more so than a hug from GOPeach).

Here’s the quote of the day from our Undersecretary of State, Nick Burns:

“We felt that this referendum would make Chavez president for life, and that’s not ever a welcome development. In a country that wants to be a democracy, the people spoke, and the people spoke for democracy and against unlimited power.”


  1. LoyaltyIsMyHonor says:

    So is it safe to go out and buy Citgo gas again? I can’t keep straight all these countries we’re supposed to hate? Are French Fries still Freedom Fries?…..sigh

  2. drjay says:

    i feel certain that sometime in the next 5 years of chavez’ “last term” he will manage to find a way for the people to demand that he continue on as their fearless leader so i do not take much stock in this weekend’s referendum one way or the other…

  3. Jmac says:

    I agree with drjay … anyone who thinks Chavez is ‘done’ hasn’t paid attention to the situation down there (where 49 percent still did back him as president for life and an openly socialist state). He’s too good of a PR guy to either not sway the minds or to say ‘well to hell with it, let’s call out the military.’

  4. drjay says:

    i don’t think anyone is advocating military action against chavez at this point–just commenting on the referendums from this weekend…

  5. ChuckEaton says:

    It wouldn’t surprise me a bit if Hugo receives the Nobel Peace Prize. Based on the recent past recipients he seems to meet the selection criteria.

  6. Dave says:

    I’m working in Colombia as we speak and they are worried about Chavez’ lunacy. He only lost this weekend’s contest 51-49. No way in heck this guy is leaving when his term is over. At least if he can help it. He’ll just make the next referendum a little less ambitious.

  7. Dave says:

    How is Halliburton even relative to this topic? Halliburton gets the contracts because they can do the job. Period. Cheney does not make a dime on anything they do. He hasn’t since he left there to become a candidate for VP. Give it a rest! Bush won, you lost! You’re gonna give yourselves heart attacks.

  8. drjay says:

    from what i understand haliburton is a good company to work for and are very good at what they do–and i did not offer an opinion the 1st time b/c the thread was about chavez so i addressed the part oyu mentioned about him.

  9. drjay says:

    but really who cares–the spice girls are back togehter and launching a reunion tour–the spice girls are launching a reunion tour!!!! life is good after all

  10. StevePerkins says:

    With all due respect, you don’t understand the doctrine of socialism. I’m not trying to be condescending, but you just don’t. Blogs and talk-radio love to toss around and mix-n-match political science concepts (“Hillary’s a socialist”, “islamofascists”, etc)… but those are not good sources for learning poly sci basics. Talk-radio notions of “socialism” and “fascism” have little to no bearing on reality.

  11. CobbGOPer says:

    I was a polisci/international relations major. I’ve lived in the PRC (that’s People’s Republic of China for y’all down in Valdosta). With all due respect, I know what socialism is and have seen it in action first-hand.

    And the policies espoused by HRC, Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, Nancy Pelosi, etc. most certainly approach and take inspiration from (if not quite go all the way towards) socialism.

  12. StevePerkins says:

    > approach and take inspiration from (if not quite
    > go all the way towards) socialism

    Exactly, I’d agree with that. But that doesn’t make them out-and-out “socialists” (any more so than George W. Bush, who has also pushed through numerous policies drawing inspiration from socialism). That’s hyperbole, to put it mildly.

  13. CobbGOPer says:

    No, Steve, it just means that in today’s political climate they’d be strung up for trying to push a completely socialist agenda. Therefore they do everything they can to push us in that direction without going whole hog. Doing it piecemeal means less attention is paid by the masses. First it’s social security, then it’s universal healthcare, and pretty soon we’re paying taxes like the Swedes.

  14. Dave says:

    Other things Chavez talks about is the creation what he calls “Gran Colombia.” This will be composed of Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador. And how might one make that a reality? By invading his neighbors, that’s how! Is it any wonder my Colombian work colleagues are nervous? And you won’t believe this one: Just the other day he was talking about avenging the death of Simon Bolivar, who died in 1830, supposedly at the hands of a Colombian. This guy is arming to the teeth and has delusions of grandeur. We are correct to worry about his intentions.

  15. ChuckEaton says:

    I don’t think the Socialists have agreed on a common philosophy for a long time. I know for every Socialist doctrine that one puts forth it can be countered by quotes from some arcane political philosopher.

    I do think it’s a commonly accepted idea that Socialists believe in a strong, central-planning form of government that offers the promise of cradle to grave maternal nurturing in exchange for relinquishment of individual liberty. It’s the belief that, “We know better than the common masses and will guide them in all of their life decisions from fatty foods and adjustable rate mortgages to saving for college and HDTV.”

    To try and coutner with the point that George Bush and some other Republicans have drawn inspiration from Socialism isn’t much of a rebuttal since I would whole heartidly agree with you on that point.

  16. StevePerkins says:

    Cobb and Chuck –

    I believe we’re all basically saying the same thing. My point is simply that what you’re calling “socialist” is actually just “liberal”. Granted… “liberal” is just a moderate point along a spectrum that has “socialism” as its farthest extreme. Still, referring to liberals as socialists is no more fair and accurate than referring to mainstream “conservatives” as “reactionaries”. Just because you lie on the conservative spectrum doesn’t mean that you’re inevitably pushing for its fascist endpoint.

    Of course, lots of liberals DO use the terms “conservative” and “fascist” interchangeably… but they’re being just as silly.

  17. What can be more socialistically dictatorial than handing hundreds of billions of your future tax dollars, which are currently on loan from China, to government contractors, while not holding them accountable for waste, fraud and abuse?

  18. Dave says:

    How ’bout the redistributing of billions of our earned tax dollars to people who don’t contribute anything to the betterment of our society, ie. welfare and social spending recipients who live off of the wealth and effort of others? They rip us off more than Halliburton ever did. That’s socialism at it’s purest! At least your dreaded Halliburton and the military contractors provides a needed service to our nation.

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