There’s no chin behind that beard, only another fist.

Here’s Mike Huckabee’s first TV ad.

What does this have to do with Georgia you may ask? That’s easy. Yesterday the ‘Georgia Gang’ briefly talked Presidential politics and Huckabee’s name wasn’t even mentioned. Dick Williams said the GOP nomination is a two person race between Giuliani and Romney, while Phil Kent included Thompson in a three person race. Huckabee is within the margin or error in Iowa, tied for second in one national poll, and is currently the hottest topic in GOP Presidential politics. You can’t talk about the GOP top tier anymore without mentioning Huckabee.

BTW, I did enjoy seeing Tom “The King” Hughes on the ‘Gang.’ Hopefully he’ll be back.

49 comments

  1. JasonW says:

    This is perhaps the greatest Political commercial ever. I am not a big Huckabee fan, but with this commercial, he may just get my vote…I would be scared that if I didnt vote for him, that Chuck Norris would roundhouse kick me to death.

  2. EAVDad says:

    That is pretty funny. I like that Chuck Norris “is pushing the Earth down.” Very nice.

    On the otherside of the aisle, I thought these commercials were pretty funny too!

  3. RuralDem says:

    Until now I thought no ad this election would beat John Edwards’ “Hair” ad. Well, the Huckabee ad has taken over.

    Edwards and Huckabee are the best choices for both parties. I just hope one party has sense enough to nominate one of these men.

    Go Edwards! Go Huckabee!

  4. drjay says:

    that was brilliant–the richardson ads were good too–are these actually on tv–or merely internet phenomenons–huck did very well at the 12th district gop straw poll over the weekend in waynesboro

  5. EAVDad says:

    Chuck Norris has DEFINITELY been to Georgia. There’s a connection.

    And I think at least 1,000 people have bought a Total Gym in Georgia. There’s another one.

    That commercial is ALL about Georgia…

  6. Donkey Kong says:

    RuralDem,

    Edwards and Huckabee are two very very different people. How can you say both are good?

    Also, I don’t intend this platitudinally, do you oppose free markets?

    From the liberals:
    http://www.slate.com/id/2088427/

    The writer of the article fundamentally misunderstands the fact that free markets spur a positive work ethic. That being said, Edwards is still anti-free markets. And as we all know, Capitalism is Freedom.

  7. Jmac says:

    The writer of the article fundamentally misunderstands the fact that free markets spur a positive work ethic. That being said, Edwards is still anti-free markets. And as we all know, Capitalism is Freedom.

    Overly-simplistic argument, I greet thee.

  8. souldrift says:

    If more Republicans were like Huckabee, I’d have a harder time not voting for them. I like this guy, but I do NOT like the three stooges (Thompson, Giuliani, Romney).

    Can the GOP pull away from its own extremism, so that its cries of extremism on the left won’t be so hollow?

  9. drjay says:

    the more i think about this ad–the less i like it–i ge that chuck norris endorsed him and i get that he is a bit of an icon–and the chuck norris rules the universe shtick is fairly well known–but i did a litle research on pop culture and presidential elections in college and historcally most of it has no or a slightly negative effect on the candidates credibility and polling (nixon on laugh-in and clinton on arsenio being to notable exceptions)–huck maybe looks a little silly saying norris pushes down the earth when he does a push up—i think i like the richardson ads better (and the kid w/ the light saber in nc)

  10. Doug Deal says:

    Buzz, he still isn’t top tier. If this were WWII, instead of cold war politics, he would be the Free French, and winning Iowa would be equivalent to how the FF “liberated” Paris.

    Its Russia, the US and the UK doing the heavy fighting.

  11. Donkey Kong says:

    John,

    The question is *not* whether it is free market economics. The issue is ethical. Stop blaming a system and start blaming the evil individuals who force child labor. We need to force responsibility on the individuals who took these actions. As a general public, we can respond by choosing not to shop at Gap. How does the free market work? If Gap keeps this up, they will soon run out of business.

    John, we will always have evil people. The difference is that in collectivist/socialist/fascist/centrist regimes, we give those evil people monopoly power. In a free market, assuming the people are relatively moral, evil people can be run out of business and out of power. Which option would you prefer?

    Loyalty, I am not Major John Douglas, though I’d be a better man if I was. Huah!

  12. CobbGOPer says:

    “Its Russia, the US and the UK doing the heavy fighting.”

    Who would Russia be? Romney? The US? UK?

    Romney does have a weird pseudo-Christian religion like the Ruskies do. And his big hair does kind of remind you of Yeltsin’s or Brezhnev’s bouffant do. Although, throw some red birthmarks on Rudy’s head and he fits right in…

  13. souldrift says:

    Cobb,

    That the GOP has become a 9/11 ad stuck on “repeat” baffles me. Huck at least acknowledges that the government has to pay its way, and that occasionally means tax increases. It’s a logical statement, but he’s being crucified over it by the far right nutcases in charge of the party.

    The GOP needs to do some serious introspection before it chides others for what THEY stand for. Particularly in deep red states like this one.

  14. Doug Deal says:

    Thompson could be the US, considering his later entry.

    But so could Rudy, considering it was a terroristic sneak attack that brought him into the race in the place.

    A case could be made for Romney, due to his great personal resources.

  15. John Konop says:

    Donkey Kong

    In all due respect the argument you made was what people advocated against freeing slaves in our own Country pre-civil war. Do you think we should of left the economics solve the slave issue in our Country?

    Do you think the father of FREE MARKET economics Adam Smith was wrong when he claimed the system does not work unless workers have rights to negotiate wages? Also workers must be under a system of justice?

    Do you think out Country was wrong to promote the concept of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness coined by Adam Smith?

    Do you think Adam Smith is wrong for being an abolitionist and believing in God?

    Why do you advocate atheist economic (Rand) views with trade deals?

  16. Jason Pye says:

    Do you think out Country was wrong to promote the concept of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness coined by Adam Smith?

    Actually, that phrase was a take off of John Locke’s “life, liberty, and estate.” See Two Treatises of Government.

    Locke’s philosophy was more essential to the foundation of the nation than The Wealth of Nations.

    The best way to advance liberty in China or other countries is to openly trade with them, not to support stubborn protectionist policies.

    As China’s economy becomes more liberalized, human rights will continue to improve. Shutting off free trade only stands to hurt these individuals.

    I know you like to write off Ayn Rand because she was an atheist, but Thomas Paine probably was an atheist and his writings (Common Sense) were also essential to our founding. I’ve never been concerned with Rand’s religious beliefs, or lack thereof. She still brought some very good opinions to the table and if she chose to practice capitalism selfishly, then that was her prerogative.

    One thing is evident to me, Konop. You’ve never read anything by her or at least read it and understood it (no surprise there, if that is the case) or you would have know that Rand condemned racism and slavery as collectivism.

    And if you want to condemn someone for believing in what Ayn Rand wrote then condemn Ron Paul. The guy named his son “Rand.”

  17. StevePerkins says:

    Unless you live in a Muslim theocracy (or are a shop owner trying to sell a beer in Georgia on Sunday)… what does religion or lack thereof have to with economics?

    You need to give it a rest, Konop… you constantly harp on Rand, but it’s plainly obvious that you’ve never read any of her works in your entire life. Confusing Adam Smith and John Locke is another illustration of misquoting people you aren’t very familiar with, to try and sound more knowledgeable than you really are. There are intelligent arguments to be made for what I THINK you’re trying to say… you just aren’t making those arguments. You’re instead being pretentious and embarrassing yourself.

  18. ToddH says:

    It’s one of the best ads I’ve ever seen for two reasons: it made me smile and I won’t easily forget it.

  19. John Konop says:

    StevePerkins

    In all due respect it is a fact that Rand has an atheist view of economics also it is common knowledge among economist. below is from the economist Mark Skousen . Also as far as Smith I am lost about your point since once again I have a well known source and you are stating what you feel.

    THE TROUBLED ECONOMICS OF AYN RAND

    by Mark Skousen

    The founder of modern economics, Adam Smith, takes a different approach by trying to incorporate both concepts in his

  20. Doug Deal says:

    John,

    I have read Atlas Shrugged twice, and I do not think the tone is as you and your quoted reviewer suggests.

    It is clear that self interest in the business affairs portrayed by the heros in the novel show a clear exchange of benefits to all parties. Dagny, when she was in the hideaway, negotiated her services in exchange for food, shelter, etc, and the deals were struck in a way that benefited both sides.

    Similarly, with the customers of her rail line, she did not expect people to give her money for just her own benefit, but believed in a fair exchange.

    Whether through financial enrichment, the good feeling one gets with a positive self image, an attempt to win God’s grace, or to think of one as morally superior to others, at the bottom line it all just serves self interest.

    It’s just a matter of who is being honest about it, and what one values.

  21. John Konop says:

    Doug,

    The difference as I see it is Adam Smith believed we needed government to make sure a fair exchange was part of the social environment between Countries. That is why he was against slave labor, IP theft, monopolies

  22. Doug Deal says:

    John,

    Thanks. One day I will use my front page powers and post to your blog. I just find it difficult to find the time to compose anything of quality.

    Spouting off as a commenter on PP is much easier.

  23. Doug Deal says:

    Jace,

    IP furthers progress. Without IP, no one would spend money on research because it would just benefit your competitors who would simply wait to steal your innovations.

    That being said, we need to seriously reduce IP protection. Currently, patents are held on many high technology innovation beyound their useful lifespan. Also, people even patent squat without ever attempting to bring an invention to market or invest in a prototype. Also, some patents are award to patently obvious inventions with existing prior art that no one thought was worth patenting.

    On the copyright front, I thing Congress extended copyrights retroactively to 80 years after the death of the last author. That is rediculous and harms the flow of ideas. Pretty much everything should lose protection after 20 years. Perhaps it is time to institute an IP tax equal to a percentage of the value. In that way people would not demand protection for something that they have no intent to use.

    All creative works are derivative, and a desire to protect the collective works of Disney or one click checkout, should not pretend as if they are not.

  24. kendrial says:

    Uhm, Can we get back to the important stuff?
    Such as how cool this ad is.

    Also if your post is longer than my screen. Think about my poor finger having to scroll through all of that text.

  25. Donkey Kong says:

    In all due respect the argument you made was what people advocated against freeing slaves in our own Country pre-civil war. Do you think we should of left the economics solve the slave issue in our Country?
    You are misconstruing what I am saying. It is the responsibility of the government to protect the rights of all humans under its jurisdiction. The jurisdiction of the United States government does not extend to citizens of India. The Indian citizens still have the same inalienable rights as American citizens, though their government impedes on those rights. Our social contract with our government does not involve all people, only American citizens. The slaves in our country fell under the jurisdiction of the US government which has the responsibility of, among other things, protecting the life and liberty of her people. So whereas our social contract and the jurisdiction of our government covered slaves, it does not cover Indian citizens.
    Do you think the father of FREE MARKET economics Adam Smith was wrong when he claimed the system does not work unless workers have rights to negotiate wages? Also workers must be under a system of justice?
    The free market works both ways. The workers have the freedom to negotiate their wages, and the employers have the freedom to deny certain wages. I do not think that unions in and of themselves are bad; mandatory union membership is. Per the Constitution, we have the right of association and can band together and form unions. Mandatory union membership, and regulations that prohibit employers from fighting against unions are not helpful, and can cause damage to both workers and employers in the process.
    Here

  26. Donkey Kong says:

    In all due respect the argument you made was what people advocated against freeing slaves in our own Country pre-civil war. Do you think we should of left the economics solve the slave issue in our Country?

    You are misconstruing what I am saying. It is the responsibility of the government to protect the rights of all humans under its jurisdiction. The jurisdiction of the United States government does not extend to citizens of India. The Indian citizens still have the same inalienable rights as American citizens, though their government impedes on those rights. Our social contract with our government does not involve all people, only American citizens. The slaves in our country fell under the jurisdiction of the US government which has the responsibility of, among other things, protecting the life and liberty of her people. So whereas our social contract and the jurisdiction of our government covered slaves, it does not cover Indian citizens.

    Do you think the father of FREE MARKET economics Adam Smith was wrong when he claimed the system does not work unless workers have rights to negotiate wages? Also workers must be under a system of justice?

    The free market works both ways. The workers have the freedom to negotiate their wages, and the employers have the freedom to deny certain wages. I do not think that unions in and of themselves are bad; mandatory union membership is. Per the Constitution, we have the right of association and can band together and form unions. Mandatory union membership, and regulations that prohibit employers from fighting against unions are not helpful, and can cause damage to both workers and employers in the process.

    Here

  27. John Konop says:

    Donkey Kong

    If you pit workers with rights against workers with limited rights you take away the rights of workers to negotiate.

    This example is clear with illegal immigration in our own country. Most economists agree in jobs where illegal immigrants have are driving wages and benefits down.

    This is the same concept if you outsource jobs to overseas sweatshops.

    This is why Adam Smith was for penalty tariffs against Countries that abuse the system. He was for no tariffs for like trading partners. Our current system is managed trade not fee trade. Check out the farm bill!

    This is one of the best articles I have ever read about explaining the core issue behind illegal immigration and this issue. Please read this article and tell me what you think.

    Illegal Immigration: A Rich American

  28. Donkey Kong says:

    “This is the same concept if you outsource jobs to overseas sweatshops.”

    We would have to come to an agreed upon definition of sweatshops, which I doubt we will. I have nothing but disdain for forced child labor. But I have no problem with outsourcing jobs and paying the laborers at the market rate for where they are located.

    “Our current system is managed trade not fee trade. Check out the farm bill!”

    I have never said we are under completely free trade. We are not, and agricultural policies are the most blatant area in which we have erred.

    We need to end illegal immigration. That would solve the issue in the article.

    On a grander scheme, liberals and protectionist conservatives seem to forget that in general wages are paid for thought, not automation. We have machines that can do automated activities. In our economy, machines have replaced automated human activity. Humans tend to be paid based on a number of issues, such as risk, rarity of talent, demand for labor in the particular industry or for specific job skills, etc. Note that rarely is the demand for bodies. It is for people with certain skills or knowledge, or individuals who are willing to take on high levels of risk. CEOs work very long hours, are required to have high levels of knowledge and trade skills, and need to be very good with people. It is rare to find someone who has all of these, and it takes a lot of work and study to get to that point. Compensation shows that. How much knowledge is required to serve fast food at ChickfilA? Very little. The only necessary to be a good employee of fast food restaurants is a good attitude, something all humans are capable of, even though many choose not to employ it. This means that these skills are common and the compensation shows that.

    If an individual wants to increase compensation, it is up to him or her to learn the skills necessary to get there, not to artificially force the employers to pay them a higher wage. As individuals, we should help those who are in these more difficult situations by helping them learn the skills they need. Remember this adage? “Give a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime.” The concept is the same here.

    Once again, John, you’re blaming a system when the real problem lies with individuals. Let’s take responsibility and give it, good or bad, where it’s due.

  29. John Konop says:

    Donkey Kong

    In all due respect not everyone was meant or capable of becoming a CEO. The same is also true with college. Yet I have respect for people who are working class.

    If one can get cheap tax payer subsidized labor you would not invest in technology. Investment is based on ROI and that is why farms have not invested in concepts like robotics.

    The problem is with our immigration and trade policy the incentive is not to invest in technology but instead use cheap labor (illegal immigrants) here or sub 2 dollar an hour labor overseas. Also the investment in technology is going overseas not here because that is where the factories are moving.

    This is an economic race to the bottom for America. The system is driven by debt.

    Like a stock if you top line grows without bottom line at the same rate or better the stock will go down.

    The same concept goes for GDP. GDP is gross not net. If your GDP grows at 3 or 4 % but your debt more than doubles from 4 trillion to 9 trillion not including consume debt the dollar will go down.

    Wages and investment in the U.S. drives a higher ration of tax revenue against social service cost. Illegal immigrants, out of control spending, trade debt, consumer debt have the opposite affect.

    I am all for real free trade. If Japan or Germany makes better cars with a civilized society that is the game called business. What China is doing is stealing IP, child and slave labor, limited human rights

  30. John Konop says:

    Donkey Kong

    BTW I am in the money business I do not complain I am just shifting my strategy. I am only pointing out the affects on must people when this all plays out. I will remind you many called me

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