42 comments

  1. Dave says:

    None of this should surprise anybody. Emory is the capitol of pacifist, liberal activism. To be so academically capable they are truly a state embarrassment. If they aren’t willing to acknowledge the very real threat posed by Islamic animals, what would they fight for? The Snail Darter? Those Florida mussels who need our water? Truly pathetic and I’m an alumni.

  2. eehrhart says:

    This is becoming a habit for Emory University.
    Almost 10 years ago I was invited to speak in the same room as Horowitz with Ward Connerly California regent on the subject of affirmative action. Almost exactly the same circumstance occured. Approximately 100 individuals rioted and forced the police to escort Connerly and myself from the campus for our own safety.
    Such outrageous behavior is unacceptable and the University administration is responsible. Can you imagine the swift response and removal of anyone who dared interupt the Iranian Presidents speech at Columbia recently?
    From reports and videos it seems that just as was the case years ago for myself, this time many of the disruptive free speech haters were students and faculty and even some administration. Last time this happened I was assured it would never take place again. At the time no consequences for anyone were meted out.
    This time serious consequences need to be pursued. If faculty and staff participated in such disgusting behavior they need to be terminated and in the case of students they need to be expelled. I seem to remember exactly the same calls last week when the left alledged that fliers touting hate were placed on a northeastern campus for this same event. Oh right, that was only until they learned that the perpetrators were not the Young Americans for Freedom campus organization, but campus leftists. Interesting double standard.

    I do hope the University will uphold the rights of all to free speech and punish those who break the rules. Free speech rights do not give someone liscense to take away someone elses right to the same.

  3. Redcatcher says:

    This is no surprise, but these are the same people who would scream free speech if someone who they supported had the same happen to them. It is amazing that college is a place to learn and hear different points of view (or it should be). We have a lot to look forward to.

  4. Doug Deal says:

    “Heil Hitler” is such an appropriate thing for them to be shouting, considering their tactics. I am sure that he irony is lost on those dolts, however.

  5. Paul from Jefferson says:

    The same people who claim that the Bush Administration crushes free speech engage in this sort of activity – especially on campuses where in theory free discussion of ideas is the greatest good. I was a student at a very liberal college (Oberlin) in the 60s so the Emory antics come as no surprise. I just have to shake my head in amazement when our self-described “progressive” brethren say that, of course, they are staunch advocates of free speech.

  6. StevePerkins says:

    I don’t want to be misinterpreted as supporting the Emory idiots here in the slightest. However… “Islamo-Fascist Awareness Week”?

    There are tons of extremely valid human rights issues you could throw at the Middle East, but this “Islamo-Fascist” label sound ridiculously foolish in an academic environment. The term is nothing more that Sean Hannity and Boortz’s hack attempt to link Iraq to WWII, the most recent war that pretty much everyone agrees was a good idea. However, “fascism” isn’t some universal umbrella term that covers all things “bad”… and the neocons sound just as silly applying it to Middle Eastern theocracies as the radical left does applying it to George Bush. This shows about as much genuine knowledge of WWII history as the flaggers had regarding Civil War history.

    It was definitely wrong to shout Horowitz off the stage like that. However, it wouldn’t have been wrong to laugh at him.

  7. rugby_fan says:

    You do know “free speech” means the government or an institution does not regulate what can and can not be said? Last I checked here, there was no institutional interference on speech here.

    That being said, did these kids promote their message in a conducive way? No but to say that by actually exercising their right to speech in a poor manner does not mean they are anti free speech.

    Now, Representative Ehrhart and others, suppose you were in charge of an institute of higher learning, would you allow someone like Lyndon LaRouche, or Lloyd Ward to come and speak freely on your campus? I somehow doubt you would.

  8. Rick Day says:

    Absolutely no excuse for such behavior in such an environment. If one is that much in disagreement, then one should stay home.

    Conversely, this is Georgia: what did he expect? We never get anything right!

    If I was scheduled to give a speech at, oh say, a Prison Builders and Guards Professional Association; arguing for the total decriminalization of 3 groups of “drugs” (entheogens, cannabinoids and alkaloids) I should expect a great deal of hostility at what they perceived as an ‘attack’ on their ‘industry’.

    However, the question begs: What would the Dalai Lama Do?

  9. Harry says:

    According to David Horowitz, Emory and other institutions of higher learning do a fine job of screening and controlling the audience when a leftist speaker is scheduled to speak (cf Columbia a couple weeks ago), but as Earl Ehrhart confirms above, if a conservative is involved then oftentimes a near-riot ensues, and they find it necessary to escort the speaker from the campus.

  10. Mike-El says:

    Does anybody really think for a microsecond that people like Horowitz and Ann Coulter are anything other than freaking delighted when something like this (inevitably) happens? Those two end up in the news for two reasons only:

    1. Saying something outrageous.
    2. Getting shouted down in protest.

    They love this stuff.

  11. eehrhart says:

    Rugby,

    Can a person come in to your place of work and get in your face and shout at you and hold up signs in your face and continue doing it without consequence or would you call authorities and have them removed? After all using your logic they are just exercising their free speech.

    As for any opinion whatsoever espoused on a college campus I would say free to all. Unlike leftists I am not threatened by people who disagree with me and would just ignore them if they were offensive.

  12. rugby_fan says:

    Wow Earl, your example is about as easy to shoot down as possible.

    The difference between coming into a workplace and shouting at someone, and protesters at a speech is that someone coming into my office is infringing on my rights and the speaker is at a public event where there is supposed to be dialogue.

    And I won’t engage in debate with you anymore. You and Speaker Richardson are fast at work destroying your reputations and political careers with the HORRIBLE Tax Plan, and despite the “80% support” for the proposal you say there is, I am yet to find someone who supports it. And Mr. Richardson is being highly undiplomatic in converting people to his side, so you might want to work on that.

  13. debbie0040 says:

    Taxing property is immoral and I am glad someone is doing something about it. You have to pay taxes on property when purchased and continue paying taxes on it. If you can’t afford to continue paying taxes, the government takes your property.
    Sen. Rogers and the Senate are working on their version of the plan and I think you will see the House and Senate reach a concensus on a plan.

    The voters have a right to vote on the plan and decide the fate.

    http://www.thegreatplanforgeorgia.com/

    Local governments and municipalities are waging a war against the plan so Speaker Richardson and Rep. Ehrhart are just fighting back.. The local governments don’t want to give up their cash cow.

  14. IndyInjun says:

    I won’t defend shouting down speakers. Two wrongs do not make a right.

    I will say that 5 years of being labeled as a ‘liberal’ or a ‘Democrat” by GOP PARTY HACKS after 30 years of being 95% GOP and contributing more heavily than most has me and millions of other Americans at war with the party.

    I hope it does not come to we indies, fiscal conservatives, and libertarians becoming embroiled in such uncivil behavior. If we do, remember YOU started it.

    It is we, not the Dems and radical left, that you should fear.

  15. Doug Deal says:

    Indy,

    That is why I am fed up with these two parties. In general, the wrong kind of people are attracted to politics, and voters are too willing to reward the worst actors among them. Having said that, I will continue to follow the Republicans for no other reason than how much worse the Democrats are and how unviable any other option is.

  16. rugby_fan says:

    Don’t get me wrong, I am not defending the protesters, just hyperbolic comparisons lobbed at them because people do not like their political beliefs.

  17. debbie0040 says:

    They were rude and disrespectful and ruined the evening for all. They were thugs and should have been arrested for disorderly conduct.

  18. Holly says:

    Honestly, watching it, those students reminded me of some of the two- and three year-olds that I babysit who have tantrums when they don’t get their way.

    Hmmm. . .

  19. GodHatesTrash says:

    Dershowitz, it ain’t like Nazi Germany at all. Nobody beat your head in with a rock or threw you off a balcony.

    Heck, it ain’t even like Georgia – nobody got a rope.

  20. megan says:

    Just to clarify – it is now being said by Emory students and staff as well as Horowitz himself that the primary disrupters were not affiliated with Emory in any way. Not that that makes their actions ok or productive, but we should at least aim for accuracy in our blaming here.

    Also, as a result, the upcoming talk by Hanan Ashrawi is no longer open to the public, which is a real shame.

  21. IndyInjun says:

    Doug Deal:

    After adding up the $8 trillion unfunded liability for medicare D, $2.4 trillion for the war, about $1 trillion for Katrina and Rita, and the recent creation of a half-trillion$ to bail out Wall Street, the GOP has me frightened out of my wits.

    Under the GOP there is perhaps $10 TRILLION in new debt and obligations that are going to be repaid via inflation, taxation, or bankruptcy.

    My assessment is that putting the Dems in charge for 4 years is a heavy price, but one we must pay to clean out the GOP’s totally corrupt incumbents.

  22. IndyInjun says:

    No, Hillary won’t fix it, but she will at least try to pay for it – rather make all the GOPers pay for for their spending decisions over the past 7 years rather than borrowing it from the Chinese.

    The GOP is no different that the welfare queens. Both suck at the teat of Big Government and both refuse to pay for their benefits.

    We need new blood that believes in Republican values. We cannot get there without throwing the GOP incumbents overboard, en masse.

    It is going to happen, too, and sooner than in their nightmares.

    Dealing with the damage they have done will take a decade.

  23. Harry says:

    I don’t agree that the Democrats can fix the problems, any better than the GOP. And maybe spend even more money we don’t have on entitlements, instead of lowering the national debt.

  24. IndyInjun says:

    The GOP has sucked the system dry of the capability to spend much more without creating a currency meltdown even greater than the one now in progress.

    The GOP held control of all three branches of government and the Fed and financial regulators, which it continues to control, while the damage was done.

    The threat of Hillary has no sway. They must go.

  25. John Konop says:

    Indy for 08!

    This comment by IndyInjun on the Peach Pundit about REDSTATE banning Ron Paul supporters, voiced my frustrations with the GOP.

    FROMPP-IndyInjun // Oct 24, 2007 at 1:56 pm
    RedState is aptly named, for you use tactics of Lenin and Stalin to suppress free speech and political debate.

    The GOP can only win as a coalition of libertarians, fiscal conservatives, and social conservatives. You partisan hacks who grovel at the feet of George W. Bush have FAR less support than Dr. Paul.

    So go ahead. Infuriate and alienate the Fiscal Conservatives and Libertarians and you are going to get an electoral wipe-out in 2008 that makes the 2006 disaster look like a ripple.
    You demean and denigrate a man who has remained true toconservative PRINCIPLE for 30 years of public service to champion what?
    -A party that will have doubled the national debt in two terms.

    -The party of Duke Cunningham, Jack Abramoff, Ralph Reed, Larry Craig, and too many others to recount.

    -A party of folks who gave us No Child Left Behind and the largest entitlement since LBJ in Medicare D.

    -A war party who SAYS the war is of overriding importance but not enough so to fund it via taxes or man it via a draft.

    -A party that opposes everything gay, yet whose Speaker covered up for a gay GOP House member trying to molest male pages and who has Senator Craig who confessed to soliciting sex in a men

  26. GodHatesTrash says:

    Horowitz is a drama queen.

    The Nazis used to beat and kill their opponents in the 1930s.

    Didn’t happen at Emory. Wasn’t about to happen. Wouldn’t have happened in a million years.

    So stop your silly girly whining, chickenhawk.

  27. IndyInjun says:

    Harry,

    The $US dollar lost 35% of its value in the last five years, and recently broke through the weighed exchange floor of 80.

    Medicare D is an $8 trillion liability, for $25000 percapita. The war is $2.4 trillion or $8000 percapita. The disasters total another $trillion. Most recently the GOP-controlled Fed created $several hundred billion in a matter of weeks.

    There is no mathematical way to pay for all of this GOP spending.

    GOPers said we should starve the beast, not induce a fatal heart attack from making it unsustainably fat and pork clogged.

    In your world Indy speaks with forked tongue, but your world has its values turned upside down.

  28. Donkey Kong says:

    Indy,

    What are you referring to with this: “the recent creation of a half-trillion$ to bail out Wall Street.” Please tell me it has nothing to do the creation of the M-LEC, funded entirely by PRIVATE money.

  29. IndyInjun says:

    DK,

    M-LEC is in addition to the Fed injections of liquidity. At Sept.6, the Fed’s injections stood at over $200 billion, and there have been continuous additional injections. Also foreign CB’s created liquidity to buy up the worthless securities held by their banks of several $hundred billion and promptly wanted repayment, as the securities are denominated in $US.

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070906150105.ba6jjyzu&show_article=1
    Is one article.

    Supposedly these loans were to be repaid, but I say they were just rolled over.

    Funny, one should look at the Wall Street Banks who have had to take write-downs and Bush’s 2004 contributions. The correlation is over 50%!!!!!!!!

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