63 comments

  1. Rusty says:

    Funny, Ron Paul seems like what most actual conservatives are asking for: a stay-out-of-my-bedroom/wallet/sovereign nations Republican. Bringing up his name is a good litmus test to determine whether you’re speaking with a party person or an actual conservative.

  2. Should I go with Pink and wear it to the next Code Pink rally, or black to show solidarity with the Truthers or perhaps go organic to celebrate Al Gore’s pending Nobel Prize? I’m conflicted.

  3. Doug Deal says:

    souldrift,

    Why would you want to purchase the last loaf of bread on earth from anyone. Just think, that would be the one loaf of bread overlooked by 5 billion other people, many of which have not had a good meal in years. There obviously must be something wrong with it.

  4. souldrift says:

    Doug, good point. I’d probably steal it, being a vile liberal 😉

    With posts like this, I sometimes wonder why this site isn’t called GeorgiaGOP.com? Only mainstream-friendly GOP candidates get good press here. Thank God this isn’t a partisan site like RedState! 😉

  5. StevePerkins says:

    I think that Stone Cold or John Cena or one of those guys used to sell a lot of t-shirts to 11-year olds with a slogan like that. Congrats, Erick… your humor and wit has finally matured to “pro wrestling level” now!

    In all sincerity, I hope you sell a million. Back when Paul was getting ignored, it was hard for him to build support. Now that the neocon establishment has started responding… Paul draws dollars and crowds every time one of you opens your mouth, due to the long-building resentment of you guys and where you’ve taken the GOP. By the way, Paul’s raised over $530,000 in just the past week. Go print us up some baseball caps, Erick.

  6. Romegaguy says:

    Yes you have told us about the shirt but more importantly does anyone know when Paul Broun is being sworn in?

  7. IndyInjun says:

    The really great thing about Dr. Paul’s success is that he has isolated the Rudy McRompsonbee candidate in confinement where T(he)y take turns being sodomized by George W. Bush.

    The ‘Leadership” of Bush 43 has done incalculable damage to the USA and the PEOPLE recognize it. Dr. Paul, win or lose, has not been a part of the wanton destruction of this country financially, unlike the Rudy McRompsonbee crowd.

    A fitting (hahahaha!) T-shirt for any or all of them would show him/them lip-locked to Bush’s arse as they plunge over a cliff.

  8. Donkey Kong says:

    I forwarded this to many of my RP fans.

    Rusty,

    Ron Paul’s domestic policies are stellar, IMO, except for his monetary policies (RPfiscal = good, RPmonetary = bad). His foreign policies are far from the standard conservative doctrine. See Barry Goldwater (and his relative hawkishness) for details.

    There are certainly some conservatives in line with RP’s foreign policy (I think Weaver would be more of this stripe, so would Wendell Berry), but its out of the mainstream conservative viewpoint.

  9. IndyInjun says:

    DK

    I have never really understood how a gold standard would work. Ron Paul would never get that far anyway.

    Talk of it and limiting the power of the Fed to simply create money at whim out of thin air and to covertly (corruptly) intervene in markets would be a huge reform of our financial markets.

    Lately the Fed has made war on the few remaining savers in this country and the middle class by devaluing our money to bail out Wall Street.

    I am for a candidate who knows the corrupt games being played and with the backbone to stop it cold.

    His name is Ron Paul.

  10. Donkey Kong says:

    Indy,

    First, to call the Fed corrupt is absurd. Unless you have hard evidence that they are not acting for the best interests of the public, you should reconsider your word choice. We can disagree on their effectiveness or on policy decisions, but calling them corrupt requires evidence.

    They also don’t covertly intervene in markets. It’s normally pretty noticeable when they do–it’s daily and they intervene to keep their target interest rate. The minutes to their meetings are published and their decisions are widely hyped.

    It’s been a rough couple days. If I get more time later today, I’ll address your point on the devaluing of our currency best as I am able.

  11. IndyInjun says:

    DK,

    It is not in the best interest of the public to usher in hyperinflation. Just a week before the 1/2% cut, Fed members were openly concerned about inflation. They panicked and made a bad decision.

    From what I have read the Fed bought up nearly worthless CDO paper to get those markets moving again. Whatever happened to “free markets.”

    I suppose you are going to post that destroying the $US dollar is good for us, but it makes us poorer.

    The Fed operates at the behest of its Wall Street cronies.

    Up until now I have been skeptical about owning gold, but the FED has revealed its intentions and those intentions should send gold over $2000 per ounce.

    When they are done, even Erick’s T-shirt will cost $50 bucks.

  12. Erick says:

    Jmac, you have me on those points, but 9/11 denier, pseudo-isolationist, giving aid and comfort to anti-Semites, and believing that “the people who really control the government” (his actual words) want a United States of North America all go toward him being a nut.

  13. Bill Simon says:

    Erick,

    It’s amazing how much animosity you have for Ron Paul. This type of shirt would have been much more suitable for Ralph Reed’s Lt. Governor campaign last year.

    And, yet, you love Ralph Reed who has more faces than a Las Vegal blackjack shoe, but despise Ron Paul who has but one face: honest conservativism.

    Granted, some of his supporters may be whack-jobs, but the candidate himself is pretty straight down the line…as, again, opposed to your former candidate-of-choice, Ralph Reed.

  14. Romegaguy says:

    Bill the shirt I would have designed for Ralph Reed probably would have had a bathroom stall door and tapping feet, but that is just me

  15. Erick says:

    Ah Bill, but I didn’t vote for Ralph. Couldn’t bring myself to do it.

    And you are right, Paul isn’t nearly as nuts as a lot of his supporters. But I just can’t help myself.

  16. Holly says:

    I really don’t get why, if Ron Paul is a nut, people get so riled up about what he says. If he’s a nut, he can’t help himself, right?

    But if he’s serious and completely sane. . . hm.

    Look, I’m not saying that some of his ideas aren’t a little out there for my liking, but I don’t get why there’s so much energy going into Ron Paul Opposition. As Jason says, there are people – not normal Republicans – who are drawn to his message.

    I’m reminded of a quote from Zell Miller, which went to the effect of: “The Democratic tent has shrunken to the size of a dunce cap.” I think we could be seriously in danger of doing that on the Republican side if we’re not careful.

    Do we really want to only have candidates with one set of ideals? Do we really not want to reach out to indies and libertarians and Blue Dogs? (I’m not suggesting that RP reaches all of those groups, but he does tap into some.)

  17. IndyInjun says:

    Erick:

    PROVE that Dr. Paul is a 9/11 “denier” You can’t because he has never denied that the hijackers committed the attack, just that the reason for their attack was a US presence in the ME. This BTW is confirmed in the 9/11 commission report.

    Yesterday it was reported that Dr. Paul is the “most hated” among the whack-job GOP-apologist blogger community, of which you are front and center.

    YOUR GOP is the party of:

    – A war for which “winning” STILL cannot be defined, which your ” patriotic” chorts call of overwhelming importance but refuse to pay for, and which y’all oppose a draft to man.

    – The party of Abramoff, DeLay, Cunningham and Reed, who have brought America the most corrupt government since Teapot Dome

    – The Party which condemns homosexuality, but then whose Speaker covers up for Foley’s homosexual advances toward young pages just to keep a GOP seat

    – The party that claims to be fiscally conservative and for limited government, but which gave us No Child Left Behind and Medicare D, A $8 trillion liability. Every GA GOPcongressman voted for the latter

    -The party of John Linder, who voted for so much massive spending that it invalidates his beloved Fair????tax rate, like some arsonist-turned-fire-chief

    -The party of George W, Bush, the worst POTUS in US history, who will somehow manage to double the national debt in just two terms.

    I have given generously to the GOP to the total exclusion of the Dems for the last quarter century, but right now I would rather vote for a Satanist that anyone with the GOP label, save Dr. Ron Paul.

    You guys learned nothing from getting your buts stomped in 2006.

    I hope the GOP goes to a well-deserved extinction.

  18. Icarus says:

    “You guys learned nothing from getting your buts stomped in 2006. ”

    It really hurts when my conjunction is stomped.

  19. Holly says:

    Indy,

    I think it’s been pointed out before that Lynn Westmoreland, Tom Price, and Paul Broun were not in office for the Medicare Part D vote. Also, one Georgia GOP Congressman who WAS elected at the time – the late, great Charlier Norwood – voted against it. To say “all” is disingenuous, whether intentional or not.

  20. cheapseats says:

    “Jmac, you have me on those points, but 9/11 denier, pseudo-isolationist, giving aid and comfort to anti-Semites, and believing that

  21. Holly says:

    This begs the question of “what’s so nutty about wanting a sealed border?” That’s not a fringe opinion.

  22. IndyInjun says:

    Icarus,

    PP does not allow one to edit, unfortunately, and I was just curious as to which Punditeer would bring it up……I figured Bill Simon…..

    Holly,

    I omitted Norwood, cuz he is dead. I think I pointed out his opposition to Medicare D many, many times here,even quoting him as saying that he could no imagine a greater example of fiscal irresponsibility.

    We should take his quote and hang the rest of them with it.

    It is quite correct to say that every current GOP GA congressman who had the chance to vote against Medicare D, failed to do so.

    I stand by the thrust of what I posted. The current GOP needs to be thrown out of office EN MASSE.

    Except Ron Paul, but then the likes of Erick seems determined to drum him out, leaving the scumbags who violated their promises to us.

    As I have told every one of my GOP officeholders, they really need to dump that party and become Indies.

  23. Donkey Kong says:

    Indy,

    Wish I had more time to respond but I’m going to be up all night working and need to get back to it. I will say this–wanna bet $100 that inflation will stay under 4% over the next five years? We’ll even adjust it for inflation.

    😉

    Let’s put your $$ where your mouth is…

  24. IndyInjun says:

    DK,

    By what do you propose measuring “inflaton” ? Inflation is an increase in the money supply, currently calculated to be 12 to 14% using the methods defining the discontinued M3 metric. If you speak of the effects of inflation, price increases, I do not recognize ‘core inflation’ as being valid either, for it selectively excludes costs that are exploding. I would dearly love it if my medical insurance increases were reduced from 25% a year to just 4%. Same for electricity, natural gas, and milk.

    You better not plan for retirement at only 4% official inflation, because real price increases will destroy your assumptions.

  25. IndyInjun says:

    Holly,

    The ones I ask to quit the party are ones I think are ‘keepers’ , folks I still respect. You know them all.

    John Linder and Saxby Chambliss, for example, need to stay in the corrupt GOP until its demise.

    We real conservatives and the former GOPers can take back America. The GOP can’t with the current leadership. They must go.

  26. Donkey Kong says:

    Indy,

    Inflation is the decreased real purchasing power of a monetary unit. By that standard, core inflation tends to measure inflation somewhat accurately.

  27. StevePerkins says:

    What the hell is a “9/11 denier”, Erick? I’m not aware of anything that Ron Paul has said about 9/11 that is an inch out-of-sync with the Hamilton-Baker report.

  28. cheapseats says:

    I’ve never been a Republican and hope I never become one but since some of y’all are talking about what is wrong with your party, I’ll give you this fine example:

    I called out the idea of trying to build a fence on the border as a great example of bat-sheet crazy nut job thinking and got a typical old-school GOP response from Holly:
    Holly // Oct 10, 2007 at 9:44 pm

    This begs the question of

  29. cheapseats says:

    Sorry, Holly. I’m not a voting member so I can’t clear your membership.

    I think you know that I was not even nominating you. I was merely pointing out another item you might consider adding to your list while your having your “in-house” discussions about why your beloved GOP is having some traction problems.

    And, yes, of course I realize that the Dems have got plenty of nut-jobs, whackos, and traction problems of their own. The biggest problem the Dems have always had is that they can’t seem to fit their ideas and/or plans onto a bumpersticker. Dems are very much “slogan challenged” and, in a country (especially the state of Georgia) where the average attention span is under 8 seconds unless there is a ball or some sex involved, the Dems are always going to have this problem.

    “For every problem, there is a solution that is simple, obvious, and wrong.”

  30. Jace Walden says:

    “Ron Paul is not a conservative, he is a nut”

    Erick,

    Now isn’t this the pot calling the kettle, “black”?

    Aren’t you the managing editor of a website (RedState) that has done nothing but lick the dogsh*t off the boots of the most non-conservative, big-spending, big-government Republicans since its inception?

    And, aren’t you the guy on this website who supports the total usurpation of local control by promoting the Glenn Tax?

    Why should ANYONE trust your definiton of what a “conservative” is?

    I can’t wait until Hillary beats the hell out of whatever dumbass candidate you guys manage to put up. I can’t wait. The last thing I want to see is a Hillary Clinton presidency, but if it means I get to hear you whine and b*tch like a spoiled child for four more years, then great.

    All you guys have to do to beat the Democrat nominee is reach out to small-government conservatives and libertarians…But, you haven’t done it for the past 7 years…why should we expect you to now?

  31. IndyInjun says:

    Jace,

    Ex-GOPer John Cole posted a open message for the Bush apologist blogger and pundits earlier this week here: http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=8799

    He says:

    “…..people got tired of being associated with these drooling retards. Then, when they realized that these drooling retards had ideological allies running the show in the Bush administration and then began to experience their idiotic policies, they moved from disgusted to outright hostile.

    Like me. It had nothing to do with Burke, and everything to do with what the party had become. A bunch of bedwetting, loudmouth, corrupt, hypocritical, and incompetent boobs with a mean streak a mile long and no sense of fair play or proportion.

    Seriously- what does the current Republican party stand for? Permanent war, fear, the nanny state, big spending, torture, execution on demand, complete paranoia regarding the media, control over your body, denial of evolution and outright rejection of science, AND ZOMG THEY ARE GONNA MAKE US WEAR BURKHAS, all the while demanding that in order to be a good American I have to spend most of every damned day condemning half my fellow Americans as terrorist appeasers.

    And that isn

  32. IndyInjun says:

    Jace,

    Former GOPer John Cole has a message just for Erick at http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=8799 in speaking of you “far-right bloggers.” He writes:

    “For starters, people got tired of being associated with these drooling retards. Then, when they realized that these drooling retards had ideological allies running the show in the Bush administration and then began to experience their idiotic policies, they moved from disgusted to outright hostile.

    Like me. It had nothing to do with Burke, and everything to do with what the party had become. A bunch of bedwetting, loudmouth, corrupt, hypocritical, and incompetent boobs with a mean streak a mile long and no sense of fair play or proportion.

    Seriously- what does the current Republican party stand for? Permanent war, fear, the nanny state, big spending, torture, execution on demand, complete paranoia regarding the media, control over your body, denial of evolution and outright rejection of science, AND ZOMG THEY ARE GONNA MAKE US WEAR BURKHAS, all the while demanding that in order to be a good American I have to spend most of every damned day condemning half my fellow Americans as terrorist appeasers.

    And that isn

  33. rugby_fan says:

    Jace:

    RedState has done more than “lick the dogsh*t off the boots of the most non-conservative, big-spending, big-government Republicans since its inception”.

    They also compare Democrats to our enemies, call them socialists, and say that Democrats rejoice every time one of our brave men and women in uniform dies.

    Give RedState some credit, they do a fair bit of useful commentary that serves to improve our nation.

  34. rugby_fan says:

    No it’s understandable, I mean, its easy to lose track of all the good RedState does.

    For example, I forgot that it has seemingly become a tool for the Thompson campaign.

  35. rugby_fan says:

    It is.

    Look, the silence from the politicians, our so called leaders, on this issue is appalling to put it positively.

    How can they just let what is unquestionably the biggest issue of the day, just fall by the wayside.

    Has Governor Perdue said a word on this? No.
    Where is Governor Cagle? Not to be found.
    Senator Obamarama; you say it is time to end “politics as ususal”? Well here is a chance to show some cross party support, and you are in bloody Iowa! The real problem for America is Paul Broun hasn’t been sworn in!

    It truly is egregious.

    Before today, I thought the Equine Influenza in Australia canceling all the horse races was the biggest issue in the world, but I may be rethinking that come supper time tonight.

    And I believe you know what would take EI’s place at the top of the list.

  36. IndyInjun says:

    Erick,

    Former GOPer John Cole has a message just for you in speaking of you “far-right bloggers.” He writes:

    “For starters, people got tired of being associated with these drooling retards. Then, when they realized that these drooling retards had ideological allies running the show in the Bush administration and then began to experience their idiotic policies, they moved from disgusted to outright hostile.

    Like me. It had nothing to do with Burke, and everything to do with what the party had become. A bunch of bedwetting, loudmouth, corrupt, hypocritical, and incompetent boobs with a mean streak a mile long and no sense of fair play or proportion.

    Seriously- what does the current Republican party stand for? Permanent war, fear, the nanny state, big spending, torture, execution on demand, complete paranoia regarding the media, control over your body, denial of evolution and outright rejection of science, AND ZOMG THEY ARE GONNA MAKE US WEAR BURKHAS, all the while demanding that in order to be a good American I have to spend most of every damned day condemning half my fellow Americans as terrorist appeasers.

    And that isn

  37. Bill Simon says:

    How come RedState is never mentioned as much in the news as Moveon.org?

    In fact, I cannot recall a single mention of RedState by any broadcast journalism outlet. What kind of significant influence do they have, again? More than FreeRepublic?

  38. IndyInjun says:

    Bill Simon,

    RedState has just enough influence with the Bush gang to be invited to rub elbows with them. He eats that malarky up.

    Come to think of it, this is what has him so upset with Dr. Paul. The reign of those who give a rat’s ass what he thinks is on life support, with we Indies about to pull the plug.

    Say goodnight, Erick, you are about to become as relevant as any of the rest of us.

  39. Doug Deal says:

    Don’t forget Redstate’s other purpose. To label anyone who doesn’t tow the approved line for the day a secret plant by the Democrats.

    Redstate has about the same diversity of thought as a mob of zombies.

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