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		<title>By: GodHatesTrash</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/09/27/that-cleland-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-89938</link>
		<dc:creator>GodHatesTrash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 19:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right dingleberry.  I apologize.  

Delay is, at his best, a dingleberry dangling from the butt of another dingleberry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right dingleberry.  I apologize.  </p>
<p>Delay is, at his best, a dingleberry dangling from the butt of another dingleberry.</p>
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		<title>By: VictoratGaImproper</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/09/27/that-cleland-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-89915</link>
		<dc:creator>VictoratGaImproper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 00:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Federalist,

i guess you missed the part about holding politicians accountable. Dale must believe that good government means more than raising special interest money.

Check out all that has happened under Saxby&#039;s Watch on the Senate Armed Services Committee. Sounds like he was doing more political fundraising than military funds watching...


Links at Lucid Idiocy:
Excerpts from NY Times Article:

&quot;As of Sept. 12, the Army reported that it had 78 cases of fraud and corruption under investigation, had obtained 20 criminal indictments, and had uncovered over $15 million in bribes.&quot; 


$6,000,000,000 
&quot;Military officials said Thursday that contracts worth $6 billion to provide essential supplies to American troops in Kuwait, Iraq and Afghanistan </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Federalist,</p>
<p>i guess you missed the part about holding politicians accountable. Dale must believe that good government means more than raising special interest money.</p>
<p>Check out all that has happened under Saxby&#8217;s Watch on the Senate Armed Services Committee. Sounds like he was doing more political fundraising than military funds watching&#8230;</p>
<p>Links at Lucid Idiocy:<br />
Excerpts from NY Times Article:</p>
<p>&#8220;As of Sept. 12, the Army reported that it had 78 cases of fraud and corruption under investigation, had obtained 20 criminal indictments, and had uncovered over $15 million in bribes.&#8221; </p>
<p>$6,000,000,000<br />
&#8220;Military officials said Thursday that contracts worth $6 billion to provide essential supplies to American troops in Kuwait, Iraq and Afghanistan</p>
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		<title>By: John Konop</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/09/27/that-cleland-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-89884</link>
		<dc:creator>John Konop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 02:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dingleberry 

LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dingleberry </p>
<p>LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Federalist</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/09/27/that-cleland-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-89857</link>
		<dc:creator>Federalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just watched that cardwell ad...what a loser! What do you see in him victoratgaimproper? His voice is extremely insincere and if he had a chance or was even a legitimate democratic candidate, that ad would be on tv (paid media) rather than youtube (free &quot;media&quot;).  He is such a sorry excuse of a candidate and thank hamilton the people that help get candidates elected can see that.  Hence his inability to raise enough money to advertise.  He has been at it for almost 4 months and still has less than $100K raised.  For those that do not know how pathetic this is, most college students, with professional help, can raise $100k in 2 months or less.  Just like Ray Mckinney, Dale cardwell is having a mid life crisis that he needs other people to finance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just watched that cardwell ad&#8230;what a loser! What do you see in him victoratgaimproper? His voice is extremely insincere and if he had a chance or was even a legitimate democratic candidate, that ad would be on tv (paid media) rather than youtube (free &#8220;media&#8221;).  He is such a sorry excuse of a candidate and thank hamilton the people that help get candidates elected can see that.  Hence his inability to raise enough money to advertise.  He has been at it for almost 4 months and still has less than $100K raised.  For those that do not know how pathetic this is, most college students, with professional help, can raise $100k in 2 months or less.  Just like Ray Mckinney, Dale cardwell is having a mid life crisis that he needs other people to finance.</p>
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		<title>By: dingleberry</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/09/27/that-cleland-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-89848</link>
		<dc:creator>dingleberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I think even the redneck Georgia GOP guttertrash can agree with decent people like myself that Delay is a dingleberry.&lt;/i&gt;

Dude, 

I know I said that you would be burning in HELL one of these days...but I never said anything bad enough to be compared to Tom Delay.

You hurt my feelings.  Truly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I think even the redneck Georgia GOP guttertrash can agree with decent people like myself that Delay is a dingleberry.</i></p>
<p>Dude, </p>
<p>I know I said that you would be burning in HELL one of these days&#8230;but I never said anything bad enough to be compared to Tom Delay.</p>
<p>You hurt my feelings.  Truly.</p>
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		<title>By: souldrift</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/09/27/that-cleland-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-89808</link>
		<dc:creator>souldrift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 03:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still wonder why it is that Republicans think (or act as if) Generals that are active duty are beyond reproach, and even beyond question?  Do they  become angels incapable of misrepresenting the truth when they&#039;re on duty?  If so, do they lose angelhood status when they leave duty?

Sorry guys, the Freedom I believe in isn&#039;t one in which we&#039;re not free to question policy.  &quot;with us or against us&quot; doesn&#039;t leave room for debate about how to fight the fight, so of course that&#039;s what Republicans prefer.  But It&#039;s NOT GOOD ENOUGH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still wonder why it is that Republicans think (or act as if) Generals that are active duty are beyond reproach, and even beyond question?  Do they  become angels incapable of misrepresenting the truth when they&#8217;re on duty?  If so, do they lose angelhood status when they leave duty?</p>
<p>Sorry guys, the Freedom I believe in isn&#8217;t one in which we&#8217;re not free to question policy.  &#8220;with us or against us&#8221; doesn&#8217;t leave room for debate about how to fight the fight, so of course that&#8217;s what Republicans prefer.  But It&#8217;s NOT GOOD ENOUGH.</p>
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		<title>By: GodHatesTrash</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/09/27/that-cleland-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-89795</link>
		<dc:creator>GodHatesTrash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think even the redneck Georgia GOP guttertrash can agree with decent people like myself that Delay is a dingleberry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think even the redneck Georgia GOP guttertrash can agree with decent people like myself that Delay is a dingleberry.</p>
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		<title>By: John Konop</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/09/27/that-cleland-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-89788</link>
		<dc:creator>John Konop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 00:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which War is Tom Delay Talking About?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which War is Tom Delay Talking About?</p>
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		<title>By: John Konop</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/09/27/that-cleland-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-89772</link>
		<dc:creator>John Konop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think all sides are wrong. We should respect the service of people in the military.

That does not mean we cannot question policy. But the ads from both sides are flat out wrong!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think all sides are wrong. We should respect the service of people in the military.</p>
<p>That does not mean we cannot question policy. But the ads from both sides are flat out wrong!</p>
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		<title>By: Jmac</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/09/27/that-cleland-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-89745</link>
		<dc:creator>Jmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 20:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, I&#039;ll never eat a pineapple again.

Thanks for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, I&#8217;ll never eat a pineapple again.</p>
<p>Thanks for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Romegaguy</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/09/27/that-cleland-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-89743</link>
		<dc:creator>Romegaguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 20:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dingleberry please keep your sick sexual fantasies confined to the Sen Craig posts. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dingleberry please keep your sick sexual fantasies confined to the Sen Craig posts. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: GodHatesTrash</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/09/27/that-cleland-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-89742</link>
		<dc:creator>GodHatesTrash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you all know that General Petraeus, despite entering the Army in 1974 (while Nam was still going) never saw combat before this current clusterf*ck?  His first combat experience was as a General, just like Dumbya&#039;s was as Chickenhawk-in-Chief.  

He did get shot by one of his own troops in Kentucky, however.

Do you get a Purple Heart when you&#039;re shot in peacetime?

Max Cleland has a Purple Heart due to the loss of three limbs in a grenade explosion.  Four days prior to this loss, Captain Cleland earned a Silver Star in action around Khe Sanh.  The citation reads, in part... &quot;Captain Cleland distinguished himself by exceptionally valorous action on 4 April 1968 </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you all know that General Petraeus, despite entering the Army in 1974 (while Nam was still going) never saw combat before this current clusterf*ck?  His first combat experience was as a General, just like Dumbya&#8217;s was as Chickenhawk-in-Chief.  </p>
<p>He did get shot by one of his own troops in Kentucky, however.</p>
<p>Do you get a Purple Heart when you&#8217;re shot in peacetime?</p>
<p>Max Cleland has a Purple Heart due to the loss of three limbs in a grenade explosion.  Four days prior to this loss, Captain Cleland earned a Silver Star in action around Khe Sanh.  The citation reads, in part&#8230; &#8220;Captain Cleland distinguished himself by exceptionally valorous action on 4 April 1968</p>
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		<title>By: dingleberry</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/09/27/that-cleland-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-89738</link>
		<dc:creator>dingleberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GHT,

Have fun burning in HELL with Pederalist and the other athiests.  You&#039;re going to have to share a studio apartment with all of them while you drink coffee and have pineapples placed into your anus.  HELL sucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GHT,</p>
<p>Have fun burning in HELL with Pederalist and the other athiests.  You&#8217;re going to have to share a studio apartment with all of them while you drink coffee and have pineapples placed into your anus.  HELL sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: GodHatesTrash</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/09/27/that-cleland-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-89737</link>
		<dc:creator>GodHatesTrash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, it cuts me to the quick to be called stupid by the hairy dingleberries on this blog.

Not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, it cuts me to the quick to be called stupid by the hairy dingleberries on this blog.</p>
<p>Not.</p>
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		<title>By: GodHatesTrash</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/09/27/that-cleland-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-89736</link>
		<dc:creator>GodHatesTrash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not think that Move.on meant to imply that General Petraeus was a traitor.  If they had called him General Noseupbushesbuttemus perhaps there would have been less controversy.

And it would be a much more accurate portrayal of the General.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not think that Move.on meant to imply that General Petraeus was a traitor.  If they had called him General Noseupbushesbuttemus perhaps there would have been less controversy.</p>
<p>And it would be a much more accurate portrayal of the General.</p>
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		<title>By: dingleberry</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/09/27/that-cleland-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-89734</link>
		<dc:creator>dingleberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Very little. What</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Very little. What</i></p>
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		<title>By: Jmac</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/09/27/that-cleland-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-89728</link>
		<dc:creator>Jmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Also, this idea that a caller to the Rush Limbuagh program is equivalent to MoveOn.org taking out a full page ad in the NYT is ludicrous.&lt;/i&gt;

It would be ... if that&#039;s &lt;i&gt;only&lt;/i&gt; what happened. Rush endorsed the idea, it got picked up by conservative bloggers and talk shows and repeated and repeated.

And, again, that&#039;s stated along with my disgust over the MoveOn ad. My contention is that ludicrous speech is ludicrous speech, and the attack on Gen. Petreaus crossed the line, and the ad against Cleland did as well.

A logical criticism of Cleland&#039;s policies and positions would have been entirely appropriate, but the ad sought to blur the lines and left the voters with the impression that he was cowardly, weak and disloyal.

But again, a criticism of the actual issues would have tossed aside quick sound bites and images of Osama bin Laden. It also would have delved more into the specific reasons why Cleland voted the way he did ... and not suggested that he was against protecting the homeland.

Regarding the issue of unions, to this day I still don&#039;t know why some folks hold so much venom against the ability of workers to collectively bargain for fair wages and safe working conditions, but no matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Also, this idea that a caller to the Rush Limbuagh program is equivalent to MoveOn.org taking out a full page ad in the NYT is ludicrous.</i></p>
<p>It would be &#8230; if that&#8217;s <i>only</i> what happened. Rush endorsed the idea, it got picked up by conservative bloggers and talk shows and repeated and repeated.</p>
<p>And, again, that&#8217;s stated along with my disgust over the MoveOn ad. My contention is that ludicrous speech is ludicrous speech, and the attack on Gen. Petreaus crossed the line, and the ad against Cleland did as well.</p>
<p>A logical criticism of Cleland&#8217;s policies and positions would have been entirely appropriate, but the ad sought to blur the lines and left the voters with the impression that he was cowardly, weak and disloyal.</p>
<p>But again, a criticism of the actual issues would have tossed aside quick sound bites and images of Osama bin Laden. It also would have delved more into the specific reasons why Cleland voted the way he did &#8230; and not suggested that he was against protecting the homeland.</p>
<p>Regarding the issue of unions, to this day I still don&#8217;t know why some folks hold so much venom against the ability of workers to collectively bargain for fair wages and safe working conditions, but no matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/09/27/that-cleland-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-89726</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very little.  What&#039;s your point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very little.  What&#8217;s your point?</p>
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		<title>By: dingleberry</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/09/27/that-cleland-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-89724</link>
		<dc:creator>dingleberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry,

I asked you a question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry,</p>
<p>I asked you a question.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/09/27/that-cleland-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-89721</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Chambliss roundly defeats Vernon &quot;MeSoHorny&quot; Jones next year (which we all agree is a sure bet), then maybe some sensitive souls should consider a move out of state.  After all, we should have a quota for minorities as well as veterans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Chambliss roundly defeats Vernon &#8220;MeSoHorny&#8221; Jones next year (which we all agree is a sure bet), then maybe some sensitive souls should consider a move out of state.  After all, we should have a quota for minorities as well as veterans.</p>
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