Huckabee in McDonough

Mike Huckabee stopped by Motorhead’s, a biker bar in McDonough, this morning and spent maybe fifteen minutes shaking hands and having pictures taken and then left. A good friend that was there tells me that maybe ten or eleven people were there to see Huckabee, everyone else, another forty people, were there for Operation Home Front. Apparently, it was very easy to tell the Huckabee supporters apart since they were dressed in “very conservative” attire at a biker bar.

I was going to go, but I ended up doing yard work this morning and completely forgot about it until my friend called at around 12:50pm and asked me where I was. By the time I was ready to go, I called my friend back to let him know I was on the way and he said that Huckabee had already been in and left, that was at 1:25pm.

[UPDATE] While in Atlanta today, Huckabee said, “We’ve got to veto some spending bills if we’re going to survive. We need the veto to call attention to the runaway spending that we have.”

Huckabee allowed spending to increase 65% during his tenure as Governor, and these weren’t simple increases in spending for roads as he has passively stated. This is hardly a man we can trust to veto spending bills.

18 comments

  1. GodHatesTrash says:

    Biker bars are great places to meet your typical GOP voters – there and the airport restrooms and you’ve got all your bases pretty well covered…

  2. Sam Teasley says:

    Apparently I was one of the people dressed in “very conservative” attire yesterday and I wanted to give you a full account of yesterday’s event, both at Motorhead’s, and around Atlanta.

    Governor Huckabee arrived at Motorheads at 12:30. He called in from there to the Herman Cain Show and they talked for about 15 minutes. When the podcast is available, I encourage you to listen (http://www.hermancain.com/radio.asp). He spent the next 30 minutes talking to people both inside the restaurant and out. He was asked to speak to the crowd gathered outside and gave about a 7 minute speech honoring the service and sacrifice of our military men and women.

    He also addressed the Cobb GOP at McCollum Airport in the morning at 10:00am and spoke for about 25-30 minutes on issues ranging from the Fair Tax, to enforcing our borders, to our country’s need to protect human life in ALL stages, and the need to stop runaway spending.

    On the spending issue, feel free to check out this newsmax article:

    http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/7/9/204920.shtml?s=lh

    After the Operation Homefront event, he spoke to a group of about 100 Gwinnett County GOP and business leaders. He spoke on a similar range of issues, but the crowd came to life when he spoke about the FairTax. The crowd cheered when he said (perhaps not exact quote, but very close), “I understand that we don’t need someone who will just sign the bill if it gets to the [Presdient’s] desk, but rather someone who will promote it to the American people.”

    I am supporting Gov. Huckabee, but had never met him before yesterday… let me just say: I was very impressed with his candor, his genuineness, and his vision to lead our country (as he often says) vertically, not horizontally.

  3. Jason Pye says:

    Governor Huckabee arrived at Motorheads at 12:30. He called in from there to the Herman Cain Show and they talked for about 15 minutes…He spent the next 30 minutes talking to people both inside the restaurant and out. He was asked to speak to the crowd gathered outside and gave about a 7 minute speech honoring the service and sacrifice of our military men and women.

    As I said, by all accounts that I’ve heard Huckabee came in through the back door. Introduced himself to the folks there, had some pictures taken and left. He spent around 15 to 20 minutes there in total.

    My friend, a very trustworthy individual, said it was an embarrassment that a presidential candidate came to a town of 12,000 people and only a handful were there in actual support of the guy.

    On the spending issue, feel free to check out this newsmax article

    From the article:

    Huckabee is on the record more than once saying, “I’m proud of my record as a fiscal conservative.” But by the end of his second term as Arkansas governor, critics like the watchdog group Club for Growth note, he had raised sales taxes 37 percent, fuel taxes 16 percent, and cigarettes taxes 103 percent.

    As I said, he increased spending by 65%, three times the rate of inflation.

    Huckabee…
    – signed a sales tax hike in 1996 to fund the Games and Fishing Commission and the Department of Parks and Tourism

    – supported an internet sales tax

    – opposed a congressional measure to ban internet taxes

    – allowed a 17% sales tax increase in 2004

    – signed a bill allowing for a $5.25 per day bed-tax on private nursing home patients in 2001

    – has lifetime grade of “D” from the Cato Institute in fiscal policy

    – is on record as opposing further tax cuts and has refused to rule out raising taxes

    – signed a bill to raise the minimum wage in April 2006 from $5.15 to $6.25

    – opposes school vouchers

    – publicly opposed the repeal of a sales tax on groceries and medicine

    Then you add in the gas and sales tax increases. His record just doesn’t stand up under scrutiny. His explanations just don’t work either. If you want to increase revenues, you cut spending and cut taxes. That is what spurs economic growth. The more money people have the more they’ll spend. It creates more opportunity for individuals and allows government to have the resources (tax revenue) necessary to keep up with infrastructure needs.

    And another problem with him is he wants to continue our presence in Iraq and continue to infringe on civil liberties at home by supporting the so-called PATRIOT Act, NSA wiretapping and the REAL ID.

    His support of the Fair Tax is nothing more than a political play to pull the wool over the eyes of people like yourself.

    He is hiding from his record as Governor of Arkansas. If his record is so good, please tell me why he never talks about it.

  4. IndyInjun says:

    I wonder when Huckabee will do as Paul Braun did with his endorsement of the Fair???tax, which was to campaign on it while conveniently dropping the 30% Fair???tax rate to 12%.

    That nutty deal will not stand close examination by the electorate, dooming the poor fools who seize upon it without looking into the con job that it is.

  5. IndyInjun says:

    Jason –

    Huckabee has borrowed a page from John Linder, who proposes a sales tax rate that conveniently excludes the adverse affects of the massive off-budget and unfunded spending that he voted for in office.

    Pols like these know how easily the gullible public is duped and pays no attention to their actions and votes.

  6. TPSoCal says:

    I was supportive of him until I found out he supports all these bans on smoking in public. No more nanny state!

  7. GodHatesTrash says:

    He would be a great VP for Fred – the slogan could be “Vote for the Hillbilly and the Huckleberry”.

  8. Ian says:

    The “nutty deal,” is what we have now: There is no reasonable equity of distribution under the current INCOME tax system (compliance costs rob the economy of between $250 bil to twice that amount – depending the extent to which “tax planning” is included).

    What’s more, the TAX CODE has become a TINKERERS’ PARADISE for *53%* of the lobbyists who game it in Washington DC. It’s a lucrative business, and the U.S. TAXPAYER pays for ALL of it in higher prices (a hidden tax which is incomprehensible to the average working person).

    Prices AFTER FairTax would look SIMILAR to prices BEFORE FairTax – NOT 30% HIGHER – as you – and others, who themselves are lazy to do the research – contend. competition would see to it. The FairTax rate on new items would be 29.9% (on the new, reduced cost of items because business isn’t taxed under FairTax – thus lowering retail prices by 20% to 30%), or 23% of the “tax inclusive” price tag – this is the way INCOME TAX is figured (parts of the total dollar).

    The effective tax percentages that would be paid are calculated by crediting the monthly “prebate” (rebate of tax on necessities) against all likely spending that citizen families (sized 1-member, and greater) are likely to spend. (Dept. of HHS would serve as the basis upon which prebates would be calculated. A single person might receive ~$200/mo. A family of four might receive ~$500 – in addition to receiving their WHOLE paycheck.)

    With regard to these effective percentages that different income groups would pay under the FairTax, Prof.’s Kotlikoff and Rapson (10/06) have said,

    (From study: http://snipurl.com/kotcomparetaxrates) “…the FairTax imposes much lower average taxes on working-age households than does the current system. The FairTax broadens the tax base from what is now primarily a system of labor income taxation to a system that taxes, albeit indirectly, both labor income and existing wealth. By including existing wealth in the effective tax base, much of which is owned by rich and middle-class elderly households, the FairTax is able to tax labor income at a lower effective rate and, thereby, lower the average lifetime tax rates facing working-age Americans.

    “Consider, as an example, a single household age 30 earning $50,000. The household

  9. IndyInjun says:

    Ian –

    I HAVE researched this nutty deal with considerable care, having a couple of decades in state and local taxation for a slew of Fortune 1000 companies under my belt.

    There is plenty of research that blows apart the Boortz/Linder book, the Fair???tax org’s real objectives, and the assumptions behind this nutty deal.

    I suggest that YOU read the actual bill and relate what it says to existing state sales tax laws, enforcement, and jurisprudence.

    Better than that, ask Linder why he voted for Medicare D and all of the rest of the unfunded spending. You see, even if the Fair???tax is revenue neutral, it does not cover these future unfunded liabilities that Linder piled on.

    SPENDING is the problem. Tax reform is just an emotional change of subject from CAUSE to effect.

  10. Ian says:

    FairTax arose out of a research milieu, and has grown to be a serious conversation precisely because of where the present system is taking us. Add this to your extensive background in “plenty of research”:

    “Laurence J. Kotlikoff on Long-Term Fiscal Problems in the U.S. (09/2006)” http://snipurl.com/meltdowninprogress

  11. IndyInjun says:

    Ian,

    Interesting that you would cite Kotlikoff on several fronts.

    First, he was one of the ‘experts’ initially funded by the contributions of Enron and Shell Oil. Such large oil and energy companies get immediate tax foregiveness of $40 billion if the Fair???tax passes.

    Second, it is even MORE interesting that he cites, with frightening acuity, the $63 trillion in unfunded liabilities, specifically mentioning that Medicare D added another $10 trillion (a figure even higher than the $8 trillion that I cite) to this financial meltdown. You see, the Fair???tax rate does not cover Medicare D nor does it account for the borrowing from SS that is soon to reverse.

    Furthermore, it would have increased his credibility had the good professor taken John Linder to task for voting for Medicare D and No Child left behind. Linder’s Fair???tax rate does not cover deficit spending that the programs that he voted for require.

    Kotlikoff and Linder are poster boys for a con job.

  12. GOPeach says:

    Is Huckabee a democrat????

    I am stunned. I know some REALLY sharp people who are with him and I am not sure they have the whole story…

    Ron Paul is just soooo cool!

    My kids even like him.

    Finally! We agree.

    RON PAUL – get us out of the Middle $^%^&5 East ! Puuuhleeeeeeeze!

  13. Ian says:

    Indy, the point is: the current system cannot remain intact without an economic collapse. I agree with futurist, Tom Frey when he states, “However, change does not happen because everyone gets together first and decides a change is going to happen. Momentum will build quickly around a single event or thought leader. When the general public senses that the end is near, an overwhelming flood of support will rapidly hasten its demise.” This is from a posting, I’m guessing, was Jan. 2006: http://snipurl.com/incometaxcollapse

  14. IndyInjun says:

    Ian:

    The financial collapse is underway. The Fed et al are creating vast sums of $US out of thin air with money supply growing at a FIFTY PERCENT CLIP based upon the ’emergency measures” of the last three weeks.

    What the Wall Street financiers have perpetrated is simply beyond the minds of all but a fraction of a percent of the population.

    The Fair???tax cannot save us, nor can any other tax system.

    The powers either must print $trillions MORE, destroying the $US and causing the USA to become a second Wiemar Republic, or the government will renege on its promises from SS to medicare to pension quaranteed to FDIC insurance as it declares bankruptcy.

    The party that did most of the damage was the GOP who never has been able to say ‘no’ to its financial masters.

    When we have to start all over again, a national sales tax will work as well as the next system, but I don’t think the public will be in much of a mood to exclude the financiers and corporations from taxation after they destroyed the best economic system on earth.

  15. Ian says:

    Indy:

    I’m willing to believe in We, The People. The FairTax is the best we’ve got, and successful enactment will result in making taxes visible. And this visibility is the “rudder” that will begin to “turn the ship” on a better course.

    If Frey is right (and I’m staking that he is), then NOW is the time that every aware American DEMAND that their elected representatives co-sponsor HR 25 / S 1025. http://snipr.com/scrapthecode

    We have different visions on this. Nonetheless, I appreciate your thoughts though – and concur with much you have to offer – especially with the Fed’s / SEC / Wall St’s culpability for the present economic situation that Kotlikoff describes so compellingly!

    (After FairTax, take a look at the next project: Demanding the restructuring of the Depository Trust and Clearing Corp. to eliminate rogue naked shorting which has resulted in the destruction of companies so that Wall St. sharks can live large: http://snipr.com/nakedshortgdarkside )

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