1. Rogue109 says:

    “What Perdue proposes is to take $50 million of taxpayer money[.]”

    “Take” being the operative word…

  2. dorian says:

    Motion has been made and seconded. All those in favor take your wallets out and superglue both sides together.

  3. That guy is an asshat. I don’t care if he runs a theater I like, or that he dislikes practices of the insurance industry, as I and many others do -he doesn’t understand insurance, economics or healthcare. Or statistics.

    Example: he cites the 37th place rank of the US health system as evidence for his simplistic “insurance companies are eeeeviiiil” rant, while leaving out the criteria the WHO used in developing those rankings. One factor was “access to healthcare,” which is made possible by -you guessed it- health insurance! So eliminating those “soulless” health insurance companies would push the US further down on the WHO ranking.

    I don’t know jack about theater -so maybe the AJC will publish my guest editorial on cinematography of the stage next week. “By controlling our emotions with false drama on the stage, theaters hinder the genuine feelings in our lives.”

  4. Lorie says:

    Kudos to the Guv for taking away Medicaid medical benefits for special needs children whose private health insurance doesn’t cover their needs

  5. Rogue109 says:

    Lorie: Can you point to me in the Georgia Constitution where providing health care is a role of government?

  6. Lorie says:

    No. I can’t but Georgia had opted for a waiver for special needs children under Mediciad since most of their medically necessary services are not be picked up by the primary insurance. Yes we are working families. To “switch” jobs will be the same as him having no insurance due to pre-extisting disability which from self insured comanies refuse to add to cover these children. So technically, yes the state has volunteered to take care of these medically fragile children. Too bad they they now can’t opt out of it. Private and self insured companies do not want high cost patients which unfortunately these children are. All early intervention w/ BCW and extra support is going going and soon is going to be a skeletal crew for the whole state of Georgia. What happens when these children grow up? Personally I know the w/ support, therapy and early intervention can be provided where the children who grow into adults w/ jobs and paying taxes. Isn’t that what we all want

    Remember the $7.6 mil? Read the report. There is no way this money is going to support all or even most of the therapies these kids need.


  7. Carpe Forem says:

    I love it when the libertarian philosophy finally clicks for a person.

    Just as you can’t borrow you way out of debt, you can’t tax and spend your way out of a problem that government created by taxing and spending and legislating away competition.

  8. Mike H.,

    That was one of the poorest spin attempts i’ve seen in years. Medical Professionals & Emergency Rooms, funded by Georgia County Taxpayer Indigent Care Funds guarantee access to health care.

    When Wellpoint/Blue Cross executives Leonard Schaeffer and Larry Glascock took approximately a half BILLION dollars each in personal compensation as a result of the Wellpoint/Anthem Merger in 2004, they showed us where their loyalties were. Not with patients or hospitals but with their backpockets.

    That Billion bucks would go a long way to helping the solvency of Georgia Hospitals like Grady and the Mental Hospitals that the State is having to take over.

  9. Rogue109 says:


    Lorie: I appreciate your honesty. Okay, so there is no Constitutional basis for what you advocate (per our mutual belief, to date). What you seek is unconstitutional. Then why are you in favor of it? What other ways do you want to subvert the Constitution of Georgia?

    Personally I know the w/ support, therapy and early intervention can be provided where the children who grow into adults w/ jobs and paying taxes. Isn

  10. gatormathis says:

    When Wellpoint/Blue Cross executives Leonard Schaeffer and Larry Glascock took approximately a half BILLION dollars each in personal compensation as a result of the Wellpoint/Anthem Merger in 2004, they showed us where their loyalties were. Not with patients or hospitals but with their backpockets

    VGI illustrates a valid point. Really, the most “validist” of points.

    The continous pilerfering in the amounts people can remove from the “system” these days, is astronomical.

    It takes a lot of “groups” paying in a lot of money, for people to be able to “compensate” themselves in such “Robin Leach” style glamour.

    Companies retirement funds are liquidated, company revenues exaggerated while costs undercharged bring big “profit draw” windfalls for someone. While the companys fiscal and material assets dwindle, somebody else’s portfolio rakes in the cabbage.

    As they ease off into the sunset, “saddlebags” revenued to the max, then the “guvment” has to step in a do a little propping us up, so the ever rising cost of “healthcare” can be met, and life can continue on.

    Sonny knows he can start and administer a system of sorts in the manner above, but to wait around for some overall kind of healthcare “reform” to act on, initiate, and actually get into the hands the citizens, well that will take a while.

    Being a realist, he knows he has a limited time to get the ball rolling.

    That, or just wait, have meetings and discussions about the subject until your “time” runs out and “Utopia” is never realized.

    Hillary can give you the rundown on how the latter works.

    First rule she should have understood, don’t go bear hunting with a switch.

    “Healthcare” in this country has definitely reached critical mass……….

  11. Jason Pye says:

    I’d like to add to this…

    Doctors, hospitals and so on typically are looking to please who pays their bills, which is either going to be an insurance company or the government (and he never mentions government control of healthcare).

    Unless individuals are given more control over their healthcare decisions (but with that control comes responsibility), then expect more of the same.

  12. Vic-
    If you think that was “spin” you weren’t paying attention. Look, I’m going to be the last one to defend the insurance industry -I’ll admit that a for-profit insurance system is designed to try to reduce costs, which in health-care means denying claims. And I wasn’t making ANY argument about about what is or is not “just” compensation for people who work for insurance companies.

    What I was saying was the author’s arguments are bulls–t. FTFA: “As a nation, we pay a higher percentage of gross domestic product for health care than virtually any other industrialized country.” -So what? That’s a “fact” without perpsective, and it’s meaningless. If true, is it because American healthcare can deliver advanced, modern (and more expensive) techniques not available in other countries? Is it because we spend lots of money on expensive procedures that other countires do not?

    There are a lot of things that would have helped Grady and the mental health facilities. Better management is first on the list, and throwing more money (either taxpayer dollars or insurance industry profits) at them is last.

  13. dorian says:

    Is it the insurance companies fault that an aspirin costs $30? Or, is it the unsubsidized costs that drive up the subsidized costs that make it too expensive for almost everyone? I am not asking this rhetorically, but seriously.

  14. Lorie says:


    If the state of GA actually were following the FEDERAL REGS on Medicaid, there would not be a problem. I would rather have a say where my tax dollars are spent but I don’t have that option. DCH and DHR are both overblown money pits which need to be streamlined and made more efficient.

    My son has autism. Our heath insurance is self insured and excludes autism. As a former medical biller, I tried every trick I knew to get it covered. No dice. It took 3 years to get him on Medicaid. We only use it for him therapies and developmental pediatrician. For all other health issues, his private insurance covers it. It’s good to know that it’s there because it helps.

    From personal experience, I know that insurance companies are teaching their employees to deny, deny, deny. Doctors and hospitals may be billing $30 for an aspirin but getting $0 for reimbursement. Doctors are now having to join groups since it is next to impossible to survive as an independent practice. Their contracts with the insurance companies are a chokehold on what services will be covered. And at Piedmont, if your private doctor checks you in, he will not be responsible for your care. They now have hospital “specialists”.

  15. 2007 “WLP” Wellpoint/Anthem/BCBS insider transations. The life of luxury goes on at the exepense of patients and hospitals. Please direct all questions to my buddy Georgia Insurance Commissioner John Oxendine:


    Somebody add up the recent, 2007 Larry Glascock Millions for me, i can’t count that high.


    *Here are some fiscal 2006 estimates, looks like Shchaeffer done took the money and run:
    $#1= Compensation
    $#2=Value of Options Exercised

    Mr. Larry C. Glasscock , 58
    Chairman, Chairman of Exec. Committee, Chief Exec. Officer of Anthem Insurance Companies Inc., Pres of Anthem Insurance Companies Inc. of Anthem Insurance Companies Inc $ 1.29M $ 9.53M

    Mr. John S. Watts Jr., 47
    Group VP, Chief Exec. Officer of Commercial & Consumer Bus. Strategic Bus. Unit and Pres of Commercial & Consumer Bus. Strategic Bus. Unit $ 1.53M $ 3.86M

    Ms. Joan Herman , 53
    Chief Exec. Officer of Sr. Specialty & State Sponsored Programs Bus.es and Pres of Sr. Specialty & State Sponsored Programs Bus.es $ 1.57M $ 11.15M

    Dr. Michael A. Stocker MD., 65
    Corp. Exec. VP, Chief Exec. Officer of East Region and Pres of East Region $ 6.26M $ 12.27M

    Ms. Alice F. Rosenblatt F.S.A., 58
    Chief Actuary, Exec. VP of Integration and Information Management Officer $ 1.40M $ 10.07M

    *Dollar amounts are as of 31-Dec-06 and compensation values are for the last fiscal year ending on that date. “Pay” is salary, bonuses, etc. “Exercised” is the value of options exercised during the fiscal year.

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