22 comments

  1. ChuckEaton says:

    “the real irony of these arguments is that opponents of this law have failed in all three lawsuits to produce a single Georgia citizen who would be unable to vote because of this law.”

    This is the most hilarious part of the ordeal. As soon as they can find a Georgian who is actually affected by the new law the can get underway with the hearing.

    You would think they could find someone on Cathy Cox’s list of 676,000 Georgia voters without photo ID who would be willing to act as a plantiff. Heck, David Worley was on the list – you’d think he’d be willing to stand-up for the team.

  2. Karen, without question, is one of the most effective leaders this state has had in some time.

    Its refreshing to watch someone accomplish the tasks they campaigned on, Karen has.

  3. Skeptical says:

    Actually, I’m still waiting for someone to prove any instance of voter fraud in the first place.

    You show me the voter fraud…I’ll dig up someone who will be affected.

    Until then, this crap just stinks and you all know it.

  4. gatormathis says:

    It would probably be funny to find out someone who was fussing about the voter ID , would likely have computer ID’s, a MySpace account, and other such voluntary measures.

  5. Dawgfan says:

    Skeptical,

    Let me ask you something do you lock your car doors when you get out or do you wait until you are robbed to lock them? Does your neighbor’s house have to be robbed before you lock your doors? Do your tires have to go flat before you change them? Voting is too important not to take this very simple common sense precaution.

  6. SouthFultonGuy says:

    Karen Handel is the best leader that office has ever seen and because she makes decisions based on facts, with common sense and integrity – you’ll be hard pressed to find any legitimate criticism about her.

    To compleltely close the loop on fraud the legislature needs to require a photocopy of ID for absentee balloting also.

  7. Federalist says:

    A voter id law could be fine, if the law was properly written and enforced. The current law, like the most recent election laws, is aimed to assist the republican party…it has nothing to do with fraudulent elections. The Help America Vote Act laid out a frame work that was sufficient to prevent individuals from defrauding elections. If republican voters were prevented from casting a ballot, who would be in the up roar then? We have no real gauge of the effect that voter id laws have in GA. If you take the other two states, Florida and Indiana, that have mandatory photo id requirements for every election add look to the before and after participation rates you will see a trend, county by county analysis paints a darker image at the intent of the laws…precinct data leaves no question about the motives of the law makers. Population grew, participation sank at a significant rate. South fulton guy, Handel does not make decisions…they are made for her. There are a lot of intelligent measures that can be taken to ensure fair and free elections, but it is hard to make a sound bite for intelligent policy. It is a hell of alot easier to appeal to the emotions of morons.

  8. Know Nothing says:

    “The current law, like the most recent election laws, is aimed to assist the republican party”

    So in other words, Democrats are the ones whom are more likely to commit election fraud?

    I would tend to agree…

  9. Bill_k says:

    I am always suspicious of laws passed for problems that don’t exist. The burden of proof needs to lie on the people making the law. To date I have seen no evidence of voter fraud that would be solved by having a photo I.D. If this law was truly intended to prevent fraud, then why was it made easier to use absentee ballots?

    As far as I can tell Ms. Handel is behaving in an extremely partisan manner, rushing enforcement of a questionable law that has been blocked by the courts several times.

  10. jsm says:

    “It bears noting in this regard that an investigative report by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution in November 2000 found that 5,412 votes had been cast in the name of deceased individuals in Georgia elections since 1980 — some on multiple occasions — and more than 15,000 dead people remained on the active voting rolls statewide at that time.”
    http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/voting/misc/ga_id_bond_ltr.htm

    Maybe the AJC should get their head out of the ‘Republican kool-aid,’ too.

  11. SouthFultonGuy says:

    Lets discard emotion and look at this logically and factually folks…

    Saying this law discriminates against Democrats is as absurd as saying limits on residents in a house discriminates against Hispanics.

    Can someone explain how this law benefits Republicans and why it is unreasonable to prove that you are who you say you are when voting?

    I wonder how folks cash checks, rent an apartment, open a bank account or get credit or even a title loan without a government ID?

    Anyone who has a car has to have a drivers license to register it. Anyone with the income to rent cars, or board airplances needs government ID. Even social services agencies require you to produce government ID for food stamps or health care.

    Criticizing Karen Handel for implementing settled law that has survived several court challenges is like criticizing Thurbert Baker for enforcing the law.

    We should not expect elected officials to enforce the law when they feel like it or listen to folks are trying the issue in the press or BLOGs after loosing in the courts.

    If Democrats thought they would benefit from the Voter ID legislation and the Secretary of State did not move forward with implementation, they’d be the first ones filing ethics charges.

    Where is the evidence of disenfranchisement? If it is so widespread as Dems seem to believe, there should have been hundreds if not thousands of witnesses in court testimony.

    Where’s the evidence?

  12. JasonW says:

    We really shouldn’t be too hard on Cynthia Tucker, I mean, after all, she IS being sued by Cynthia McKinney. If Cynthia McKinney is mad at her, can we consequently be mad at her too?

  13. Bill_k says:

    People point at voting in the name of dead people as proof of the need for this law. This is not proof at all. It only shows a need to fix voting rolls. How were these votes cast? How would having a picture ID fix this problem? If someone actually walked up to the polling booth and tried to vote using a dead person’s name, how did they manage it? And why did the Voter ID law relax requirements for absentee ballots if they were so concerned with fraudulent voting? I would guess it is even easier for those dead people to vote if they can mail in their ballot from the graveyard.

    For these reasons I still believe that the stated reasons for this law are not the real ones. I oppose any law that does not fix the problem it is supposed to address.

  14. jsm says:

    Bill_k, who is going to manage the nation’s voter rolls? They are managed locally, and each county has to keep them up-to-date. What’s your plan to handle that–another government bureaucracy? I think proving one’s identity with a valid ID is a better option.

  15. gatormathis says:

    I guess people have short memories.

    Surely people remember the fiasco in Dodge County, Ga a few years ago, when a lot of voters voted that really couldn’t.

    Personally, if a dead person “walked” up and wanted to vote, I’d probably be scared to mess with em.

    ‘Specially if they had bugs crawling out and stuff…….

  16. bowersville says:

    Yes, but when my ancestors were living, we frequently talked politics. I can assure you I know how they would have voted in today’s elections.

    Handel is doing what we elected her for, her job, and she excels at it.

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