1. jackson says:

    I dont know about that, but I got Brouns other smear mailing trashing Whitehead and lying about where Jim stands on issues. I thought the guy was crazy. Now I know he is a lying scumbag. What a jerk. Of course, I guess that’s why he’s been married 5 times, filed for bankruptcy, and completely lied abou this own past.

  2. Bill Simon says:

    This is the ripe cherry I take from Broun’s letter: ” I will respect our differences and treat everyone fairly.”

    Even gays? Even atheists?

    Someone show me an example of when/where a religious zealot can be relied upon to be “fair” to everyone and “respect” their differences.

  3. Mike-El says:

    I’m sick of laying aside philosophical differences for my own party…the heck with doing it for the other guys.

  4. AlanR says:

    He just put another $80,000 of his money into his campaign last week. Pays for a lot of mail. He’s now put in over $200,000.

    Broun still hasn’t filed his financial disclosure. I guess he’s too busy to follow the rules. I just wonder where the money is coming from. That’s a lot of house calls.

    I thought Athens was the far end of the district.

  5. Jeff Emanuel says:

    No. It’s a silly strategy, given the combination of (a) the demographic of Athens, (b) the fact that they wouldn’t even turn out in big numbers to vote for the Democrat in the special election, and (c) the fact that he is so publicly doing things like saying “the Bible is my guide in everything” (paraphrased) and arguing about who owns more guns — just two of many things which will virtually guarantee that he can count out the liberal Athens vote.

    I think Athens by and large sits this one out.

  6. Jace Walden says:


    Before Mike-El answers you, please let me ask you this: What are the principles of the Republican party, if any exist, philosophical or otherwise?

  7. Mike-El says:

    Oh gosh, Bill…my response was just a one-liner (this place needs a laugh track). I’m no party spokesman, even though my gut tells me that the primary guiding principle of national Democrats is identical to that of Republicans: Win elections at any cost.

    All I can do is offer up that, personally, I’m a typical Athens-area Hubert Humphrey/human rights/civil rights/take care of the young and elderly/house the poor/heal the sick kind of Dem. I believe that the government has a place…scratch that…a responsibility when it comes to ensuring quality of life for the genuinely disadvantaged.

    [cue laugh track]

  8. profg says:

    Jace, I think the Republican Liberty Caucus actually has it right on that one, with their “Liberty Compact” which they ask candidates and elected officials to sign:

    “I pledge to the citizens of this State, and to the American people, that as their elected representative I will work to: restore liberty, not restrict it; shrink government, not expand it; reduce taxes, not raise them; abolish programs, not create them; promote the freedom and independence of citizens, not the interference of government in their lives; and observe the limited, enumerated powers of our Constitution, not ignore them.”

    Last I checked, by the way, only two candidates out of the ten original ones signed the Liberty Compact: myself and Jim Whitehead. Paul Broun was asked several times to sign it, and refused.



  9. bowersville says:

    Funny, the mailer I got from Paul Broun, Jr. claims Whitehead wanted Marlow in the run-off, not a “real conservative” like Broun.

    Now, he wants the democrats to vote for him?

    This guys all over the spectrum. All things to all people according to which folks he’s addressing. The guy has no shame.

  10. Jace Walden says:


    The RLC does have it right. Unfortunately, the RLC is the minority opinion in the GOP. The GOP, for the most part, is made up of big-government liberals, religious bigots, and full-time political hacks without principles. It is no different from the Democratic Party.

    (Wrong thread here, but…)Maybe that’s why Erick hates Ron Paul so much. Ron Paul calls the party on it’s BS. Erick only enables more big-government BS by supporting status quo candidates, and demeaning principled candidates like Paul. He (Erick) is not a conservative. He’s a closet big-government liberal.

  11. bowersville says:

    I listened to the Kudzu Vine interview and I’m dumbfounded. Just who is Paul Broun, Jr. and what does he stand for?

    He explains he is closer with Denise Freeman’s(D) viewpoints than with Eric Underwood’s (R). He wishes we didn’t have partisan elections, and he says he’s not far apart on most issues with Democrats and if elected he will act in a non-partisan way the day after the election.

    Further, the Democrats will have someone who is interested in their issues, that he will be interested in Democratic and Republican ideas and find a common sense solution and he will act in a bipartisan way and represent all viewpoints.

    I don’t remember Broun taking any of these positions before, and I have to ask, how can any Democrat/Libertarian or Republican vote for Broun?

    He even admonishes the Democrats that are contemplating sitting this one out, that to do so, someone(implying Whitehead) will be elected that will represent the Republican Party.

    I think it was Napoleon that said, He who defends everything defends nothing. Broun if you represent all viewpoints, you represent nothing.

  12. bowersville says:

    Jason, I’m have a mailer from Paul Broun, Jr. to my wife, a Democrat, that I’m reading from as I type that plainly says entitlements “must keep pace with inflation.”

    So, as a member of the RLC, do I go with Broun who I know to be untruth-full about his “real conservative” views, espousing social conservative talking points at every opportunity, that now says he’ll represent all viewpoints, or do I go with Jim Whitehead who signed the RLC pledge?

    As a RLC Republican, I have chose to work within the Republican Party towards accomplishing RLC goals and I support Whitehead.

    As far as his campaign, I am not a member, so I can’t speak for them.

  13. eliza says:

    Bowersville, I got that letter too and as I remember, it was talking about Social Security not what people think when you say “entitlements”. I have it around here somewhere so I could check but I am pretty sure I am not wrong on that.

  14. Bill Simon says:

    Jace, Part 2

    You will note that there is not one freaking word about abortion/pro-life in that set of principles. Yet, that is the primary issue on which primaries tend to be decided.

    This party has been invaded by religious whack-jobs and thta invasion has wrought the sad state of affairs we have today.

    But, yes, some of us DO have principles and we are pissed as all get-out about the failure of our electeds.

  15. profg says:

    Bill S., the pro-life stance is right there, in the first two principles:

    “I BELIEVE the strength of our nation lies with the individual and that each person

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