16 comments

  1. joe says:

    Today I received an American Legion application in the mail. I set it aside and opened email. I was one of those who received the Peach Pundit email. I picked up the Legion application, completed it and wrote them a check for dues. Imagine my suprise to discover that Marietta had backed down.

    Your email accomplished two good things. Marietta backed down, and The American Legion got at least one new member.

    Thank You

  2. jm says:

    You probably should send a follow up mail, announcing the success of the campaign. One more email won’t kill us, but I’d hate to see Marietta keep getting calls after they came to their senses.

  3. DMZDave says:

    They should continue to field calls because Maggie Moss’s comments were condescending and arrogant and she should be called on it and apologize.

  4. Alex Ezell says:

    This issue is much more nuanced than you would seem to realize.

    The issue is that the City of Marietta bans all groups (that is, everyone) from handing out anything during the parade. This was not a ban on the American Legion alone. I don’t really see a problem with this as long as everyone has to abide by the same rules.

    Seems like a lot of folks were riled up without knowing the real circumstances.

  5. Erick says:

    No Alex, the AJC reported that fact. It’s still nuts to ban veterans from passing out American flags on Independence Day.

  6. jm says:

    The ban is stupid. Plain and simple. Having some regulation is fine for safety, but Fourth of July without flags is like a birthday without cake. I don’t think we need to be telling a bunch of veterans who put their asses on the line for us several times over that we’re afraid we might get a little hurt.

  7. Bill Simon says:

    Darn right, JM! We should give those veterans some live ammo and hand grenades to toss around as well just to give the crowd shivers up and down their spines!

    (NOTE: I am only mocking JM, not the veterans and their distribution of American flags during a 4th of July parade.)

  8. Romegaguy says:

    I wonder if some of our confederate friends will decide this is an event they should show up for and hand out their flags…

  9. jm says:

    Bill: ok….I’m not stupid. I still think veterans have to register their guns just like everybody else, just not their flags. Common sense should prevail. I’m actually a democrat; have never supported this war, nor the last Iraq one either. But I have always believed in the flag, the constitution it represents and the good people all across this country.

  10. Darth Mike says:

    The only reason to say something like that is because of your sentence preceding it. “I have never supported this war.” Then you realize how unpatriotic it sounds, so you try to back off and not sound like a liberal.

    Before you argue to support the veterans, why don’t you look at what they did and why.

    In F.D.R.’s message delivered to Congress requesting a declaration of war on Germany and Italy on December 11, 1941, he said:

    “The long-known and the long-expected has thus taken place. The forces endeavoring to enslave the entire world now are moving toward this hemisphere. Never before has there been a greater challenge to life, liberty and civilization. Delay invites great danger. Rapid and united effort by all of the peoples of the world who are determined to remain free will insure a world victory of the forces of justice and of righteousness over the forces of savagery and of barbarism.”

    Your response includes a statement that is the direct polar opposite to being a united effort to victory over the forces of savagery and of barbarism. Your response is to say “I HAVE NEVER SUPPORTED THIS WAR!”

    I am sorry, but I must respectfully disagree with your position. To not support a war now, when US soldiers are dying, is in fact, telling our enemies that if they can just continue to fight a little longer, then they can win.

    It does not matter that you may have disagreed with the reason for the war then, or that you disagree with the reason for initiating the war now looking back as a Monday morning quarterback, but by God, all Americans should support the war until it has been successfully concluded. Those are 2 different things, but you choose to make statements that include both.

    We must be a UNITED effort. We are in a war. Anything less is an insult to our flag, our troops, and our citizens. You can say you support our troops and what they are dying for, yet you do not support the war. To now wrap yourself in a cloak of the flag to hide behind your statement of non-support of our troops who are shedding their blood there on a daily basis is an insult to them. It is an insult to any citizen of this country who truly loves their country.

  11. Darth Mike says:

    correction to last paragraph. should say

    We must be a UNITED effort. We are in a war. Anything less is an insult to our flag, our troops, and our citizens. You canNOT say you support our troops and what they are dying for, yet you do not support the war. To now wrap yourself in a cloak of the flag to hide behind your statement of non-support of our troops who are shedding their blood there on a daily basis is an insult to them. It is an insult to any citizen of this country who truly loves their country.

  12. too many people getting rich off this war to stop it just for the safety of the troops.

    and we’re borrowing all this war money from China, so who cares?

    Army Award 3 $5B Contracts for Logistics Support in Iraq and Afghanistan

    The deal includes nine one-year options which could be worth up to $150 billion.

    http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070627/army_logisitics_contract.html?.v=1

    and
    “Federal Contract Abuses on the Rise
    Thursday June 28, 1:14 pm ET
    More Than $1 Trillion in Federal Contracts Riddled With Fraud and Abuse”
    http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070628/contract_abuses.html?.v=2

  13. joe says:

    Victor,

    As usual, your post has nothing to do withnthis thread. I am a Federal contractor, and if youm wish to discuss these issues on an appropriate thread, I am willing to talk. I am not willing, however, to join your attempt to jack threads.

    I have attempted to go to your site for discussion, but it is too poorly designed for me to participate.

  14. jm says:

    Darth: you have your opinion. I get it. You can’t think how saving soldiers lives supports them.

    But how about this: we support our troops by doing everything we can not to place them in harm’s way except as a last resort. We did not do that with Iraq. We tried to do that in WWI and WWII, but it was clear there was a greater good. Not so with Iraq…we have now created a more unstable situation, more Americans killed in Iraq than were killed on 9/11, and thousands more Iraqi’s lost their lives. The soldiers defeated Saddam quickly, as they were trained to do. They fought nobly, ably, and risked their lives because they had been called to duty. But they are designed to achieve military objectives, not political ones. What we have in Iraq is a political mess, created by politics, for what reason I cannot fathom. Some say oil. Maybe.

    The failures in this political situation lay solely at the feet of one man. Instead of a great speech from our current president before this war; we had him parading a now-disgraced Colin Powell in front of the UN with flawed evidence. You do not support your troops by lying to them on the international stage about why they are being sent to risk their lives. You do not support one of your greatest military leaders by forcing him to ruin his reputation with an outright lie in front of the whole world. A lie that was not strong enough to build a case that would have brought the major world players into our coalition.

    How many objectives have we have had for this war? The rationale, originally, was WMD’s, and 9/11. Both lies, so then it was then about making Iraq a democracy by removing a horrible autocrat…and saying that that was the rationale all along. More lies to the American people; but worse – the President lied to the very men and women he was asking to risk their lives for these reasons…reasons that all turned out to be untruths, spurious evidence created just to go to war. Again, going to war built up on a bunch of stupid lies is not considered supporting the troops.

    If you think for one second that not going to war with Iraq would have meant the deaths of 3,000 more Americans here then you are a bigger idiot than the President. The same president that pulled troops fighting where the real terrorists were (Afghanistan) to put them where they weren’t (Iraq).

    So we go kill more of them, they kill more of us, the whole region becomes unstable, all because the President lied. But I’m not supporting the troops? You better ask your President what has he done for the troops in Iraq lately…other than the body bags, of course.

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