GOP sets its targets…snubs Collins

This is just repeating what most of us already know to be true, but Politico notes the NRCC’s plan to target Barrow and Marshall:

Republicans have got Georgia on their minds, at least when it comes to trying to take back control of the House.

[I]f the Republicans are to win the 15 seats necessary to regain control of the House, they’ll likely need to pick off these seats in deeply conservative territory. And a campaign to do just that has already begun.

The two seats, which were recently redistricted by the Georgia state legislature, provide some encouraging developments for Republicans. Marshall is now running in one of the most Republican districts in the country, while Barrow has never won more than 52 percent of the vote in his district.

Against Marshall, Republicans have been touting the candidacy of retired Air Force Maj. Gen. Richard Goddard since he entered the race last month. The National Republican Congressional Committee had been trying to recruit Goddard since 2004.
The Republican Party leadership is also offering its support to Goddard. Minority Leader John A. Boehner (Ohio) hosted a fundraiser last week for Goddard, with the entire Georgia GOP delegation in attendance.

I wonder how Mac Collins is taking that last paragraph.


  1. drjay says:

    o.k the politico article mentions wayne mosley–the dr. who is serving in iraq–i did not know he was available for public consumption yet–i met him at the state convention–he is from the vidalia area and was talking about challenging barrow–his wife read a letter from him at the 12th district convention–while he was away on active duty–a copy of which is available here–

    other names of heard for the 12th–don’t know how serious any are include st senator tommie williams and state reps buddy carter and jon burns–mayor bob young is apparently interested and people have talked to local sav’h tv news anchor and former state rep sonny dixon as well–is there any one else??

  2. Bull Moose says:

    The 12th is interesting. It’s a tricky district and a misleading one too.

    Many people think it’s an urban district while others argue it’s a rural district. It is both!

    You cannot win the 12th without making efforts in Chatham County and having an urban agenda, especially as it relates to issues of poverty, transportation planning, education, and re-education (work force retraining).

    I too met Dr. Mosley and was VERY impressed by his interest in the district. His intentions seem very authentic and that is what we need – authentic leadership.

    I’ve also heard Tommie Williams (too much of a traditional politician to get traction with Barrow), Buddy Carter (not sure if he has the fire in the belly), former Mayor Bob Young (currently the HUD Sec. Rep.), and the effort to draft Sonny Dixon to run (which he says no too very emphatically).

    It’s going to take a no nonsense style of communicating to win against the Harvard trained lawyer John Barrow.

    I’ll say it, Bull Moose has thought about it too!

  3. liberator says:

    Mac still hasn’t conceded the last election. Does the phrase “Never Surrender” apply to Ole Mac?

  4. Toddrob says:

    No wonder Collins keeps getting snubbed.

    Collins had just enough left in his account at the end of last election to pay himself off from his failed Senate run??

    instead of paying himself off with the hard earned money that donors gave him, he should have used that $100,000 plus grand to go after those last 1800 votes. Pretty tough to explain that to anyone he expects to be a future donor.

  5. drjay says:

    bull–i would assume equal attn. would have to be paid to the area of augusta in the 12th as well based on your view of the dynamics?

  6. Holly says:

    I wish Jesse Stone would consider running – not that I think he will. He’d be a great candidate, though.

  7. drjay says:

    actually not the 1st time i’ve heard mayor stone’s named mentioned either–does he have any interest that anyone has heard??

  8. Bull Moose says:

    Yes Dr. Jay you are correct, though, Chatham County is the largest segment of the 12th Congressional District.

  9. drjay says:

    about 33k voted in the 12th in 06 from chatham compared to 26k in richmond–out of 140k total votes and dwarfing bulloch as the #3 county in the 12th w/ about 12k total votes in the 06 congressional race.

  10. Holly says:

    I’ll say this about the 12th: it is one of the most peculiar districts in the state. And no, you can’t ignore south Augusta. Savannah does have the larger population, but not by too much.

  11. IndyInjun says:

    Bob Young……hmmmmmmm….

    Barrow is no slouch.

    No one would have a cakewalk against him.

    What’s this about BULL MOOSE? Now THAT would get me fired up again!

  12. drjay says:

    i will begrudgingly admit barrow has really seemed to come into his own this year, making it much harder to say the usual awful things i like to say about him w/ as much conviction.

  13. memberg says:

    Wow, Politico – astonishing revelations! Seriously? The NRCC is targeting Marshall and Barrow? No! No! No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    That said, send Bush here another 97 times – Jim will still win.

  14. IndyInjun says:

    Nah, Memberg, they will trot out the “Fair”???tax against Marshall…..THAT oughta do it!

  15. Bull Moose says:

    Given your data drjay, I would submit that any candidate that is going to have a shot needs a VERY STRONG base in either Richmond County or Chatham County to begin with in which to be successful in defeating Barrow.

    Barrow is going to be tough to beat but there is already one issue sitting on the table – his go along get along attitude toward the culture of corruption and this blatant continuation of abuse of the earmarks.

    Secondly, he’s just another politician.

    Thirdly, he’s just arrogant and rude!

    oh, and drjay, call me, my tooth chipped again!

  16. steelfist says:

    Bullmoose your strategy of working Chatham County worked well for you when you managed Barbara Dooley’s race didn’t it?

    The only way a Republican can win the 12th is to make sure the rural southern democrat vote doesn’t go to Barrow. Max Burns lost it because of his support for the Fair Tax which Barrow used to to keep the conservative, rural, southern Dems from abandoning him. No Republican is going to get a significant portion of the vote from the sections in Richmond and Chatham County.

  17. Bull Moose says:

    Steelfist, you know nothing about the strategy behind the Dooley race or the reasons why she lost. Barbara Dooley won Chatham with over 70% of the Republican vote. She underperformed in Clarke County.

    In a GENERAL election against Barrow, you cannot just abandon Chatham or Richmond. You must make an effort Steefist. You have to couple that effort with an outreach to the rural districts too.

    Max Burns lost in 2006 because of the same reason he lost in 2004 — the sales tax that he supported. What’s unfortunate is that in a rematch, he should have seen the “Max Tax” coming and been ready to deal with it, but alas, the campaign never responded.

    The national sales tax is the worst sham of reform imaginable and in competitive elections, those who tout the sales tax lose.

  18. IndyInjun says:

    Amen Bull

    One day maybe the GOP in this state will realize that hawking a tax that gives immediate tax forgiveness of close to a $trillion to corporations while instantly putting a 30 to 35% (higher if tax evasion is figured in) tax on Grandma’s nursing home care is NOT “Fair” nor is it smart politics.

    Had Whitehead ended up in a run-off with Marlow, this issue would have been used as a battering ram.

  19. drjay says:

    bull–call me tommorrow–or just be there around 4:30. and considering that max only lost by less than 1000 votes out of 140k cast there are probably 2 or 3 different things that could have been done to put him over the hump, including but not ltd too–not conceding the urban centers, solidifying the conservative rural dems, more aggressive absentee balloting, responding to the “max tax”, etc, etc, etc…

  20. steelfist says:

    Bull – I know alot about that race. Max’s campaign did respond to the Max Tax attacks with three different ads.
    You can check them out here:
    Straight, Nonsense and Lies

    If you watch those ads you can see that Max was distancing himself from the Fair Tax but the damage was already done from 2004. Max also had an aggressive outreach program in the cities in 2004, but came up short. No GOPer can lose the rural dems.

  21. Holly says:

    There were a few things that Max could have done differently in both 2004 and 2006 and his time in office, but hindsight is always 20/20.

    I’d argue that Barbara Dooley lost the 2002 election in Richmond County after flubbing a debate question about SRS (which was then used against here mercilessly).

    A note to candidates: federal elections are mostly about federal issues, but if you want your candidacy to be taken seriously, know the local issues that have a federal twist to them, too.

    A few guys in the race for the 10th were asked questions about local issues and were unprepared to answer. If you’re in Richmond County or Columbia County, having to admit that you don’t know what SRS stands for is not going to win you any support. The same is true for the different military installations throughout the state, research facilities, interstate pipelines, some of our lakeshore properties, etc.

    That all said, good luck to Max! He’s moved to Dahlonega to teach at North Georgia College & State University. 🙂

  22. IndyInjun says:


    On the Savannah end of the 12th, they know entirely all too well what SRS represents and they don’t like it.

    Good for Max……except methinks he won’t be teaching taxation.

  23. Bull Moose says:

    Hey, I ran the campaign against Max and came to really really like both him and Lora his wife. They are down right good people. Max was poorly served by his former Chief of Staff during his first term and it was unfortunate.

    I was there when the SRS thing came up and I can promise you she knew what it was. What was unfortunate on that occasion was that some overzealous Burns supporters were asking questions with the intent of tripping her up and it was pretty obvious to those in attedance. Also, the Burns campaign went very negative against Dooley in the rural areas and we failed to answer the attacks.

    Regardless, we’re not going to debate the 2002 primaries please GOD tell me we’re not! We (I was the campaign manager) lost by less than 200 votes and when it’s that close, you can literally identify 200 different reasons and trust me, I still have the list from that one!

    Anyway, ask most people involved in politics in Chatham County about Max’s efforts in the 12th in Chatham and they will tell you he didn’t have an effort in Chatham County.

    The right candidate can win the seat, that’s for sure, it’s just going to take the right mix of luck, hard work, determination, and straight talk. A compelling story doesn’t hurt either!

    I guess you could say that I’m more vested in the outcome of the 12th than others.

  24. Holly says:

    Clint, if you are the person who runs, best of luck to you!

    I live in the 10th, but the 12th affects the 10th and 1st a great deal. That gives me a vested interest in what happens there, even though I can’t vote in that district. Let me know how I can help.

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