Comments on: They Said It…the John Douglas edition

By: LoyaltyIsMyHonor

LoyaltyIsMyHonor — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:14:20 +0000

Patriot said:
“The media seems to want to portray this as a “normal”, consensual act, as if it were motivated by romance or affection. I wonder if she was “in love” with all 5 of the young men? She was intoxicated, probably intimidated, and exploited (at least by the taping, if not by the actions. )”

So true and thanks for pointing that out. This wasn’t romance and it wasn’t a case of a group of swingers having some consensual fun in the form of a gangbang. I’m pretty sure that the girl was pressured and intimidated into performing tricks. Forcing someone into doing something doesn’t have to be made physically….The intimidation factor was certainly there.

By: Demonbeck

Demonbeck — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:41:37 +0000

You are so hard to read, you play hide n seek with your true intentions

By: atlantaman

atlantaman — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:37:55 +0000

“with momma making all the statements about the girl consenting and re: the prosecution.”

It appears both sides are trying to intimidate the mother into being a pawn for her cause. Apparently she issued a statement of support for Wilson, after receiving pressure from the Wilson advocates, then retracted her statement after receving pressure from Baker.

With a black defendent, black victim, black AG and blacks on the jury I find it hard to see how his sentence was racist.

By: Samuel

Samuel — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:15:14 +0000

Does anyone find it fitting that Genarlow’s attorney only uses her first two initials: “B.J.”

By: patriot

patriot — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 05:52:52 +0000

The major problem here is that the law that was in effect at the time says that she cannot consent to the act, and make it ok. The 2 year age gap and her minor status due to her 15 yr. old age were automatic disqualifiers.

The media seems to want to portray this as a “normal”, consensual act, as if it were motivated by romance or affection. I wonder if she was “in love” with all 5 of the young men? She was intoxicated, probably intimidated, and exploited (at least by the taping, if not by the actions. ) Any surprise that today she is 18, and the mother of a 2 yr. old?

As to the absence of a father-figure, the only parent mentioned in the press is her momma, with momma making all the statements about the girl consenting and re: the prosecution.

The race of the 2 principal “players” and whether they were of the same race makes no difference, as to the impropriety. Any race, same condemnation of the actions and violation of the laws.

Why no prosecution of the drugs and under-age drinking? Are those actions supposed to be ok? Seems to me they were contributing factors.

By: ChuckEaton

ChuckEaton — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:00:21 +0000

Point well taken griftdrift – it’s a difficult issue.

By: griftdrift

griftdrift — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:53:04 +0000

Interesting you bring that up Chuck, since the young girls mother just issued a statement in support of Wilson.

By: ChuckEaton

ChuckEaton — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:56:07 +0000

“Wilson’s advocates say race was one reason the young man received a sentence they describe as appallingly harsh, noting that he and the girl — both black — were only two years apart.”

An interesting point, but I wonder what the black girl’s advocates would be saying had Wilson received a light sentence?

By: Rick Day

Rick Day — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:35:55 +0000

I’m confused. Nothing new.

What exactly is Oprah’s Agenda? I could not find a wiki, and the only googley searches turn up mean-spirited blog posts (hm. Kind of like yours!) Please cite accurate sources re: Agenda

However, if you find it includes her running for POTUS, well…where do I send her my check?

LOLZ @ Oprah’s Agenda.

By: Bill Simon

Bill Simon — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:55:12 +0000

Erick and JDouglas,

Soooo, let me get this straight: in homes with fathers, the daughters will never be involved in experimenting/participating in oral sexcapades, eh?

Senator Douglas, I know you’re this ignorant, but I didn’t expect such a statement from Erick.

You folks really DO live in a sheltered enclave of America outside the “big city.”

By: Rusty

Rusty — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:22:10 +0000

RJL nails it.

By: Andre Walker

Andre Walker — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:18:53 +0000

Here's an excerpt from the USA Today article on the subject:

Wilson's advocates say race was one reason the young man received a sentence they describe as appallingly harsh, noting that he and the girl — both black — were only two years apart and the law has since been changed. On Monday, a judge ordered Wilson released, agreeing that the long sentence was a "grave miscarriage of justice."

By: Federalist

Federalist — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:04:31 +0000

Jason, I am assuming that since they are minors…their identities will not be released, in any form (i.e. physical descriptions)

By: RJL

RJL — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:01:24 +0000

26 comments about something John Douglas says is like a crowd gathering around a deranged street barker and commenting to each other, “I wonder if he has any data to support his claim that the world will end on Friday?”

By: Jason Pye

Jason Pye — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:57:19 +0000

One thing I want to throw out there…do we even know if the two girls involved are black or are we making that assumption?

By: Federalist

Federalist — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:48:23 +0000

You know, when I was 17 this was not a big deal. John Douglas is out of touch with reality. I grew up before welfare and it was no secret that 15 year old girls would blow 17 years old boys, and it was no big deal. Douglas is a hack, and above this he is apparently a racist. Our morals will not be dictated by these self righteous a$$holes, and if you cons keep allowing it…well, you will no longer be supporting democracy or America. I call for the resignation of this sorry excuse of a man they call John Douglas, plain and simple.

By: CHelf

CHelf — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:36:10 +0000

If this sentence is upheld and they began prosecuting these cases in the exact same manner, you’d have some severe overcrowding going on in the jails. Maybe some people are sheltered and don’t know what goes on with teens these days but if HALF of the comments coming from Legislators on this issue were enforced, this little surplus of ours would be building new jails for a large number of teens. And it really does not matter what background they came from.

By: Rusty

Rusty — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:29:42 +0000

Samuel, Congratulations, you've made the quote rotation on my blog with this gem:

I’m afraid uninformed “bleeding hearts” have forgotten the facts in this case and have blindly followed Oprah’s agenda.

I can always rely on Peach Pundit commenters for my daily unintentional comedy fix.

By: Buffalo Bob

Buffalo Bob — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:20:42 +0000

I would like to ask Sen. Douglas if he knows what his daughter is doing everytime she leaves the house?? I too, diagree with the whole daddy thing, this happens across the board, does not matter the child’s background.

By: Erick

Erick — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:09:08 +0000

Andre, re: the Rockdale County situation. I saw the PBS documentary. Just because they had fathers living in the house doesn’t mean the fathers weren’t absent. It seems to me they were.

Same in this case.