They’ve endorsed Nat Pulliam for the 10th. That’s not why they are out of touch. Read this paragraph and see if you can guess why they are out of touch.
That isn’t to say he’s the perfect candidate. Pulliam has some far-right positions on relatively trivial issues – he doesn’t believe in “winter holidays” but in “Christmas holidays,” and believes the words “In God We Trust” should continue to appear on American currency. However, Pulliam said those issues, while important to him, won’t be a high priority for his service in Congress, if he’s elected.
Only in Athens, I guess, do views shared by over two-thirds of the American public become “far right.”
[UPDATE:] Just to add useless knowledge above the fold, “In God We Trust” first appeared on American coinage by order of the Treasury Secretary pursuant to an Act of Congress in April 1864, in response to the Civil War. Congress ordered it be placed on all coinage printed in 1907. The Democrat controlled Congress adopted it as the national motto in 1956 after almost 100 years of appearance on our coinage and various government seals and documents.
Apparently, the extreme right-wing has been very active for a long time in this country.
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Federalist, I think you’d find (if you actually looked around) that Christmas and other such things are not “far-right” so much as you are far more “far left” than you’d ever admit even to yourself.
I never said christmas is far left. It is far right to advocate that one holiday at the expense of acknowledging the celebrations of others.
And I said that that is a much farther left position than you’d probably ever admit.
*yawn*
The War on Christmas is fictitious, and it’s a tool to stir up those who view politics less than critically. In that sense it’s far right.
Personally, I don’t care what you wish me as long as it’s positive. But I’m unlikely to wish you anything but a happy holiday because I wouldn’t presume to know what holiday you do or don’t celebrate.
further, not farther. you may be right. It just seems so common sense though. Perhaps it does not designate a position on the political spectrum; I still, however, find it rather discourteous to wish a happy holiday to a person who does not celebrate said holiday. It is not something that is always something that is obvious when just passing by, say…whilst exiting a retail store. Why are we discussing this issue still?
Because it’s a tool for stirring up the less-than-critical, Federalist. But seriously, why do “conservatives” favor intervention in private commerce in this case? That’s anti-conservative, if anything.
Jeff, Fed is amoral and atheistic. These traits are going to affect everything he thinks and writes. Even though his views are far left, and in my opinion socialist, his principles are defined more by what he believes about God. To me, this makes his views essentially irrelevant in American society, but he, like every other citizen, has the right to voice them. Good luck trying to reason with someone who sees no value in belief in God or morality and who makes political judgments based solely on predicted economic gain.
Hm. I don’t know about favoring “intervention in private commerce,” per se. Like Federalist, I can choose whether or not to shop somewhere, and regardless of the reason I decide not to return to a store, it’s my personal decision — not an “intervention.”
For example, when Target banned the Salvation Army from its stores a couple years ago, I stopped shopping at Target. They made a business decision, and I made a business decision; at no point was I attempting to make them change course, or to impose my beliefs on them — I simply took my business elsewhere, which is as much my privilege as deciding how they will conduct their business is theirs. No skin off either’s nose, there.
I understand where you’re coming from, Federalist; I just choose not to be insulted if I’m wished a happy [insert-holiday-here] which I may or may not choose to observe myself. First of all, I don’t think it solves any problem to be bothered by it, but second of all (and more importantly), I simply take such wishes for what I think they are — a sincere greeting and well-wishing. Though it may not be in the name of a holiday (or a particular religion) to which I subscribe, a sincere well-wishing isn’t something at which I turn up my nose because it comes from the “wrong” point of view.
Likewise, I feel no need to take umbrage, or to feel insulted, on behalf of any- and everybody else who might not celebrate that certain holiday, or practice that certain religion. I firmly believe that they can take care of themselves, and can be plenty insulted, if they feel it is called for, without my assistance.
I riddle you this, then Jeff. If target had lower prices that store “x”, would you have gone back to target…even after they got rid of the salvation army solicitors?
Jeff, you and I have similar views, then, of our role in private commerce. I expect courtesy from retailers, and if I don’t like what I get then I shop elsewhere.
However, an idealized discussion of what would be optimal is not really what we’re discussing when we’re discussing political candidates. Why does it matter what you’d like private citizens and retailers to say if you recognize that it’s not your role to direct either? Again, it’s anti-conservative. The truly conservative choice would be to make your individual decisions and leave people’s holiday greetings to them. Or, heck, to concentrate on matters that actually matter.
Nicki, you and I are seeing very close to eye-to-eye
Federalist, that’s a good question. I’d say probably not; what I did at that time was simply take my business to the eeeeeeeeeeeevil Wal-Mart, which not only welcomed the Salvation Army to its stores, but matched every donation made to the SA at a WM store. It was a conscious decision, and in order for me to ignore that situation and keep shopping at Target, the prices would have had to be significantly lower, to such a degree that I really couldn’t justify to myself my refusal of business to them.
jsm;
I doubt Feddy over here is amoral, and despite my devout Catholicism, your last statement (“Good luck trying to reason with someone who sees no value in belief in God or morality”) is quite asinine.
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