The poll, conducted by the Republican Liberty Caucus of Georgia and the Georgia Young Republicans came out as follows:
Fred Thompson – 44%
Newt Gingrich – 18%
Rudy Giuliani – 15%
Mitt Romney – 9%
Mike Huckabee – 4%
John McCain – 2%
Duncan Hunter – 2%
Ron Paul – 2%
Tommy Thompson – 1%
Tom Tancredo, Sam Brownback, John Cox, Jim Gilmore – <1%
These results are all the more amazing considering that Mitt Romney attended the convention and had an event here last night. Newt Gingrich was the convention’s keynote speaker.
Fred Thompson’s only presence was a group of volunteer supporters from Georgians for Fred Thompson.
At the convention, it was also announced that more than forty current and former elected officials, including a former US Senator and the top two Republicans in the State Senate, were endorsing Fred Thompson.
More to come on this later ….
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And don’t forget earl ehrhart too!
Hang it up romney, newt, and the others.
President Thompson. Go ahead and get used to it.
Kudos to the delegates for ignoring the empty suit, Gilmore.
I went to Newt’s dinner last night but missed today’s convention… I heard that out of 1000 delgates, only like 200 actually did the straw poll.
NEVER TRUST A STRAW POLL!!!!
They mean little.
Jason… should have has ELEPHANTS!
*had ELEPHANTS!
Not to poo poo anything, because Fred’s my choice, but the straw poll was directly beside the Thompson booth.
First off there were only around 800 delegates. One of the smallest conventions in years. Of course with no big fight that makes sense.
Maurice, there were two locations for voting, one was across from Giuliani and kaddy korner from McCain.
Romney was at the Convention and Newt spoke.
Over 40 elected officials came out for Thompson (more than every other candidate combined). Thompson has no staff, no campaign.
Thompson is the real deal. The grassroots is speaking around the nation.
Fred is better that “RUDY-MIC-CAIN” -
I heard there were 900 delegates.
I was just told there was 1,1oo delegates.
Rob Doll won like 560 to 380. So that’s 940ish.
Lot’s of people left early ( like me) and did not vote. I went to Newt’s dinner last night and tried to find Bill Simon.
But Buzz got 190 votes.
That’s under 20 %.
It doesn’t make a bit of difference if the nominee ends up being Thompson or McCain or Romney or Giuliani. So long that Iraq is front and center, there isn’t a chance that a Republican will win in ’08.
GOPeach, I hate to be ugly, but you need to lay off Buzz.
At least he was at the convention, and he ran for an office in hopes of getting new ideas out there for our party.
From what I’ve heard from other Gwinnett County GOP members, Buzz is excellent at grassroots and working through problems when they arise.
I think if you really believe in Reagan’s 11th commandment – the very one you’ve reminded people of when bad things are said about someone you support – then you should practice what you preach.
That said, when the alternates were seated, our voting strength was 1,100, or there abouts.
Over half (50%) of the delegates voted. This was a huge win for Thompson.
Further, when you voted your badge was marked. When I voted and the person after me voted I saw it happen.
Fred Thompson will win the nomination.
I’m not that great at math but 200 divided by 1100 isn’t 50% there Gabe. I don’t think this straw poll means too much due to the sample. YR and RLC are a small portion of the GA GOP.
I like Thompson but this poll lacks credibility.
I think the problem was that people were unaware of the straw poll. It was open to everyone at the convention, not just the RLC and YR, yet several delegates around me were surprised that there had been a poll when the results were announced.
There were over 400 voters in the stary poll. If there were only 200 Fred would have gotten over 90% Cracker. The number of paid delegates seated was just under 900 from what I understand. There were alternates seated but nt that many (low turnout convention with no big fight).
I’ll say, to give the worst case scenario, there were maybe, at best 1100 folks there eligible to vote. There were 429 votes if my MATH is right from the AJC. I’d say that is a large percentage of GOP activists. Those that didn’t vote obviously didn’t have a dog in the fight.
It was easy to see to the two voting locations in two days. Anyone discounting the results are just unhappy with them.
HUGE win for Fred Thompson.
Here. You can watch Fred continue the debate with Michael Moore over Moore’s documentary filmed in Cuba, while Fred enjoys a fine cuban cigar.
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=611
like gabriel mentioned the ajc has the raw numbers of the straw poll–and if you look at the numbers that voted in the 1st vice chair race it was roughly 900–so the over 400 that did the straw poll is a respectable %–and if you take into account that thompson is not actually a candidate at this point–those are huge numbers–and we voted at the yr booth right across from the mcainiacs…
Some have asked about his Seante term. Here are his rankings:
Among his interest group ratings, FDT earned a perfect zero from National Abortion Reproductive Rights Action, a perfect 100% from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, only 11% from the ACLU, 85% from the American Conservative Union, 86% from the Center for Security Policy, a perfect zero from the American Federation of Teachers, 6% from the National Education Association, 90% from the League of Private Property Voters, 97% from the National Tax Limitation committee, 88% from the National Taxpayers Union and a perfect zero from the liberal ADA. In a 1995 analysis, Project Vote Smart listed Thompson as having supported Contract With America items 100% of the time.
I think our man Fred Dalton Thompson is walking the walk. Now he is a Volunteers fan, and I am Dawgs fan, but they’re both in the SEC, so I suppose I forgive tat slight infraction.
In fact, I am pretty sure sure he’s the only possible candidate that has been to a game in the Fall at Sanford Stadium and fully grasped hat’s going on. So, at the end of the day, that’s a plus.
Seante…Senate. You know what mean. I just am not good at typing.
Does Fred still share McCain’s viewpoint on the 1st amendment?
I’m going to call bullshit!
First, Gabe, where is the proof that there were 400 votes.
Second, who counted the votes? Jason Shepherd- A Fred guy. ? Chris Farris- Also a Fred Guy. ? You Gabe- another Fred guy. ?
Third, NOONE knew that there was even a straw poll! The only votes that were taken were the ones pushed over from the Fred table.
The mere fact that Sue announced these tainted results from the podium is pure bullshit. I am sorry. I love Sue, but Jason pushed her to do it and without an unbiased poller and poll counters this is NULL and VOID!
Ok, I just posted, but it is not showing up. ????
Well, I posted it again and that one it not showing up either. Guess we will eventually have two posts from me.
This time of night, if the posts are lengthy, or have links, the spam filter detains them. At least that’s been my experience.
You couldn’t slide a piece of paper between the political differences of John McCain and Fred Thompson because they are lock step in sync on the major issues facing our party and country like campaign finance reform, spending restraint, the war in Iraq, and tax cuts.
Thompson and McCain are close friends. In 2000, Fred Thompson was the Co-Chair of the McCain campaign.
Does Thompson end up running? Who knows? It is horribly disengenious to suggest that this Thompson effort is totally volunteer driven because there have been a number of people involved on a national level pushing people in this state to commit and organize on his behalf.
I congratulate the Thompson organization for their efforts, however, if straw polls were indicative of who was going to win the nomination, we’d have been honoring President Phil Gramm for his service for having been elected in 1996.
It’ll be interesting to see who wins the real straw poll next November. After all, it’s the American voters, not convention delegates, who will ultimately choose the next occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania.
It’s not terribly surprising either that Sam Brownback is in that less than one percent category. November ’06 proved that the ultra conservatives simply aren’t going to win. Apparently, folks now want more moderate candidates.
How does Pelosi fit into that? Let’s just write her election off as another California screwup.
I don’t know where you all are getting your numbers. 1,000…900…etc. I was on the credentials committee and we only had checked in a little over 600 alternates and delegates.
that means roughly 2/3 of the conventioned voted in the little straw poll.
Still waiting for you check GOPEACH.
hard numbers here
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/shared-blogs/ajc/politicalinsider/entries/2007/05/19/straw_poll_fred_thompson_is_th.html
Shep, I thought they announced we had a voting strength of around 1,100 once alternates were seated. However, since you were on credentials, I’m sure you’re right and I’m wrong.
I will stand by my statement that the delegates around me were surprised there had been a poll when the results were announced.
Holly-
I will be honest here- I do not know DOLL. I heard he was a real nerd. LOL Someone said he had on white shoes and looked like an ice cream salesman. That’s a shame.
This would have been my choice:
1. Bob Matthews
2. Buzz
3. Doll Baby
White shoes????? Ya lost me on that one.
Oh, come on Peach…
White bucks with a searsucker. That is a classic Southern Spring uniform.
I may have to question your bona fides if you don’t understand “white shoes”…
JASON-
When I see the GA YR’s work the grassroots in LOCAL RACES that have a chance of unseating incumbent democrats, I will send you that check!! Until then…. no way.
You seem to be mezmorized with the glitz of national races and not too concerned with the local seats under your nose in Cobb County which could have earned a notch in your belt with people like me who have a focus on local races as you surely must know.
You want my money … but when are you going to care about what I care about? The GRASSROOTS!!!!
I get e-mails from the Cobb YD’s [because my son belongs to them unfortunately]. They are so far ahead of you, it is ridiculous.
I have YET to see the YR’s working in COBB COUNTY—-where you and I live! And don’t give me that … 3 or 4 of our members got married bull #%^%$ either! That dog won’t hunt — Jason.
I need to see HEART on a GRASSROOTS level. You have actually said bad things about GREAT REPUBLICAN candidates running against democrats in the general and I have a good memory.
When I see you bring it- I’ll bring it!
Until then – I will send money to the candidates themselves and by-pass the Young Republicans and all of their silliness —spending more time blogging and reading blogs than working in Phone Banks and Knocking on doors.
The YD’s are outworking you Jason. I know this for a fact. They are already knocking on doors. Today my son is at a Bacculariate registering High School Seniors to Vote Democrat!!! You are conducting Presidential Straw Polls!!!!!
You scare me.
Misunderestimitated -
I can take the ‘St. Simon’s” Sring look with loafers and no socks… but white shoes..???
And did you say searsucker??? What color????
blue and white?? yellow and white???
This is horrible!!!! A 2007 Fashion Don’t!
How many observations were there? The first two polls that were touted as F. Thompson victories only had 30 responses, and can not be used as evidence of his support. Furthermore, it is my belief that once F. Thompson joins the race (if he decides to do so) he will not be a front runner. for one he is too far behind in the fundraising race, and nobody has had a chance to attack him for not being a social con. He will suffer the same fate as Rudy…GOP voters can not see the consequences of their decisions but 5 feet in front of them.
Federalist-
I am a RIGHT WING NUT JOB!
and very proud of it!
but… I fear there is truth in what you are saying.
Seriously… you see the GOP all caught up in the polls ( like Clinton used to do) and look what happened!!!
I PRAY TO GOD they would WAKE UP before it is too late and WORK the grassroots!!
*Spring look with loafers and no socks… but white shoes..???
Gabe,
Gee, I’d hate to bring-up this “counting” thing with you and elections and such, but had you actually been in the convention when the credentials report was being read, you would have heard there were about 940 delegates, and about 300 and some-odd alternates, most, if not all, who were moved-up to be delegates.
The original total voting strength was probably around 1200 or so.
BUT, as the day wore on, delegates and alternates left the convention to get back to their daily lives, and not all of them remained for the final vote count on the 2nd ballot for 1st Vice Chair.
Nor, of course, were they all present to vote AGAINST Mike Dvorcsak’s last gasp attempt to change the Rules to somehow work in his favor to get the appeal against his county convention shenanigans thrown out.
Peach,
You’re not a “right-wing nutjob.” You’re a nutjob.
People like you are actually left-wing nutjobs in that you believe religion should be force-fed onto the populace until everyone believes as you and Ralph Reed believe.
Whether it is the totalitariansim of one religious belief ot the totalitariansim of no religious belief, both outcomes would not be in alliance with the Constitution….and, yet, nutjobs like you persist in supporting and crowing about candidates who feel exactly the way you do.
Big round of [applause] for Bill!
Bill,
This is where you lack understanding of God as the sovereign source of Law, Liberty, Government and the Constitution!
If you want to talk Constition, then by all means let’s do just that and refrain from school yard name calling… using personal insults like pussy, ass hole, bitch, etc… Deal?
Now- you obviously have taken some neutral politically correct position which leads to taking God out of our Pledge, “In God We Trust” off our money, and faith out of our lives., etc..
You think you have the the right view of the Constution. You are convinced that America should be a secular or a godless state and religion was not a decisive factor in the formation of the Constitution of the United States and that this proves that the framers of the Constitution did not want religion to influence public policy.
Just because the word “God” is not in the Constitution does not mean He is not there.
Most people would not consider Charles Darwin, author of On the Origin of Species (1859), to be someone important in order to understand the U.S. Constitution. Most people think the writings of John Locke, William Blackstone, and James Madison are important in order to understand the Constitution. There is a sense in which Charles Darwin is more important than all of them and has had a profound impact on the modern interpretation of the Constitution. In fact, a case could be made that he has had a greater or equal impact on the Constitution than the delegates at the constitutional convention!
You most likely believe in God. But for you, it does not matter whether God exists or not when it comes to understanding government. You read the Constitution in a way that is totally foreign to its framers and you think that religion/faith was not important to the framers of the Constitution.
To the framers of the Constitution, the idea of having a government not based on God would have been unthinkable and did not create a “secular” state in the modern sense of the term.
At the same time, the framers of our Constitution did not want America to become a theocracy. They did not believe in a theocratic state. The framers of our Constitution did not want clergymen to pick the Presidents and set government policy. This is not to say they saw no role for religion in government. The framers most certainly did believe that religion and religious values should influence the government and its policies.
George Washington’s first Proclamation as President made this abundantly clear. On the day that Congress finished its work on the First Amendment, they called on Washington to issue a Proclamation to the people of the United States to thank God for the freedoms we enjoy.
A week and a day later the President’s opening paragraph in his Proclamation said: “Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor . . .” The words “to obey His will” are fatal to any suggestion that George Washington and the framers of our Constitution believed in NO God.
In America, religious values influence government policy through the vote of the Godly people.
When the UN-Godly vote – the policy is anti-faith which is Un-Constitutional …
It is the Freedom OF Religion – Not FROM Religion.
Bill-
You lack understanding of the CONSTITUTION!
Now I will be happy to discuss this with you without personal insults. Now if you want to discuss it like a sailor and call each other nasty names.. fine!
Now… what do you feel is “The Constitutional” ?
Let’s read it together and discuss line by line:
Preamble:
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union,
1. establish justice,
2.insure domestic tranquility,
3.provide for the common defense,
4. promote the general welfare,
5. and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Q. Who were ” we the people”?
A. The Framers!
Who framed the framers?
Bill,
The voting was over two days.
When was there a vote on the Fulton County thing on the floor?
shhhhhhhh quiet Gabriel…
Bill is thinking. He is having a hard time finding the answer to my question on Wickipedia.
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