It Ain’t Easy Bein’ Green…

Drudge reports:

After losing a string of embarrassing votes on the House floor because of procedural maneuvering, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi has decided to change the current House Rules to completely shut down the floor to the minority. The Democratic Leadership is threatening to change the current House Rules regarding the Republican right to the Motion to Recommit or the test of germaneness on the motion to recommit.

This would be the first change to the germaneness rule since 1822. In protest, the House Republicans are going to call procedural motions every half hour.

 Pelosi Lowers the Boom

40 comments

  1. Icarus says:

    Demonbeck,

    You were supposed to put in the story that this would make it impossible for Georgia Congressmen Kingston, Westmoreland, Price, Linder, Deal, and Gingrey to make a motion to recommit or question germaneness. Got to keep it local, you know.

  2. Romegaguy says:

    Dear God!!!

    Next she will appoint members of congress that she will call birds of prey that will swoop into committee meetings to make sure that anything the minority wants (and anything she doesnt want from her own members of the majority party) doesnt get passed.

  3. Jmac says:

    Considering Pelosi’s favorability ratings are higher than not only Bush, but the rest of the Democratic-controlled Congress, it’s apparent she’s just flexing that muscle.

    Like it or not, outside of the South, folks like her.

    Adjusting the germaneness rule wouldn’t be a bad idea. I don’t view it as essential to securing the rights of the minority party.

  4. Demonbeck says:

    This will only serve to make Congress even more divided and hate-filled.

    It’s like adding Puck to the Real World.

  5. Andre Walker says:

    “Next she will appoint members of congress that she will call birds of prey that will swoop into committee meetings to make sure that anything the minority wants (and anything she doesnt want from her own members of the majority party) doesnt get passed.”

    And then she’ll have reporters banned from the House floor.

  6. Demonbeck says:

    “And then she’ll have Republicans banned from the House floor.”

    Fixed it for you Andre.

  7. Jmac says:

    Puck. Wow. Excellent call.

    Didn’t he go nuts on one of those Road Rules vs. Real World shows? I remember something involving a machete.

  8. Ben Marshall says:

    Only Democrats who know nothing about the real operations of the state capitol bring up the Hawk issue at any possible chance. Lame.

  9. Skeptical says:

    “And then she’ll have Republicans banned from the House floor.”

    You say that like it’s a bad thing?!?!

  10. Demonbeck says:

    Jmac,

    His fiance (who wasn’t an American citizen) came to visit him in Hawaii, but got stopped by Border Patrol on her way back (with their son) to the mainland. Apparently, she did not have her passport or something. He flipped out and pulled out the machete in order to get kicked off the show so he could leave.

    At least that is how I remember it.

  11. Demonbeck says:

    Skeptical,

    It’s only a bad thing if you expect America to remain a Representative Republic.

  12. Jmac says:

    Yes! Absolutely excellent.

    As was him bringing his mom to the reunion show,and completely flipping out there. That one dude almost punched over Pedro.

  13. drjay says:

    i guess this is what happens when house speakers stop being nice–and start getting real…

  14. Icarus says:

    “This will only serve to make Congress even more divided and hate-filled.

    It’s like adding Puck to the Real World. ”

    That made me laugh.

    Then I thought about some of the electeds that cruise through here, and their age and (lack of) pop culture differences, and wonder how long they would try to figure that one out.

    That made me laugh even more.

    Now I’ll await comments about Puck from Senator Douglas, Senator Johnson, or Rep. Ehrhart.

    (I’ll bet David Shafer hated Puck, too.)

  15. Andre Walker says:

    “Only Democrats who know nothing about the real operations of the state capitol bring up the Hawk issue at any possible chance. Lame.”

    Alright, let’s leave the Hawks alone for a second and talk about how Glenn Richardson had a “kill switch” installed at his podium in order to silence certain Democratic members of the House by cutting off their microphones.

    And don’t make me pull out the video, because I’ve got it.

  16. Demonbeck says:

    I hope Glenn Richardson’s Hawks do a better job drafting new players than the other Hawks of Atlanta.

  17. JRM2016 says:

    Ahh, crushing the already limited rights of the minority in the U.S. House. This is the first good news of 2007, at least on the federal level. And Jmac, Pelosi with high favorables?, I want whatever you have gotten your hands on.

  18. Jmac says:

    The most recent AP-Ipsos poll has both Bush and Congress polling at 35 percent approval, with Pelosi at 45 percent, including a 52 percent approval rate from women and 50 percent by minorities.

    I never argued hers were ‘high’ … just higher.

  19. eehrhart says:

    Ahh Icarus……

    Puck was Oberon’s minion whose quest was to steal a flower from cupid which would make the first person who saw it fall in love.

    Can I assume that when you say “pop” culture you are not referring to the Bard??

    Guess I am just out of the loop with some of pop culture.

    And you have such a classic mythological name which even predates shakespeare.

    Flying close to the sun lately??

  20. Icarus says:

    Rep Ehrhart.

    No, and yes.

    I checked YouTube to try and get a vintage Puck clip for you, but they only had a recent thing where he’s now in Vegas as a middle aged man. Quite sad.

  21. Inside_Man says:

    Mr. Chairman,

    If you liked a Midsummer Night’s Dream, you’ll love Titus Andronicus.

  22. Federalist says:

    How can the GOPers be angry about this? Remember that device called a filibuster? That was destroyed by the GOP, and it was a very useful instrument of governing. In the past six years the president and GOP have turned this country from a prosperous nation at peace to a deeply indebted nation at war. If Pelosi thinks that some rule changes will stop the GOP from suppressing the will of the majority…so be it. She is the Speaker and you are not, love it or leave it.

  23. Demonbeck says:

    “Remember that device called a filibuster? That was destroyed by the GOP”

    No it wasn’t. You are completely incorrect.

  24. Federalist says:

    When a filibuster occurs, does government shut down and force lawmakers to act? No. The “nuclear option” is not a filibuster.

  25. Demonbeck says:

    The rules in the Senate (where filibusters occur) require a super-majority of 60 votes to stop a filibuster.

    It takes members of both parties to overturn a filibuster, Buster.

  26. Federalist says:

    Same name, different procedure. Yes, 60 votes will stop a filibuster, but what is now called a filibuster is not a “filibuster”…instead of stopping all business and allowing a person to read from the phonebook for 24 hours, the Senate just moves onto a different issue.

  27. Demonbeck says:

    So as a result, the filibuster works regularly over there.

    Not to mention all the holds placed on legislation by Senators (a tactic widely used by Democratic Senators by the way) as part of a “personal privilege.”

  28. Doug Deal says:

    Federalist, if you were truly a federalist, you would believe in seperation of powers. The benefit of seperation of powers is that it prevents any one faction from easily taking over the government, which hypothetically means things need broad based support.

    Having a slower deliberate body that can be stopped by 41% of the vote is a good thing because it is a check on the faster acting House. This protects you, even if it frustrates your will.

    If anything, we need more government gridlock and less streamlined passage of ill-considered laws.

  29. Federalist says:

    Mr. Deal
    You love hearing yourself (reading yourself). I love it, but slow government is only effective if negotiations are possible. I am a federalist, and you are correct. We do need lees streamlined passage of ill-considered laws (PATRIOT Act, Authorization of the Iraq War, etc are excellent examples of bad policy & opportunism). Deliberation is necessary though, and the GOP has ceased to do this. Stonewalling is not negotiating. Take the Dems for example, they have submitted all sorts of ideas and alternatives for funding the Iraq war, and bringing our troops home. We are getting close to getting our troops home, a few more votes and a filibuster is possible. The only filibuster that will work is a real filibuster, where everything stops for this one issue. I agree with everything you said, as for Pelosi though…I do not agree with everything she stands for, but my gut instinct is that the Dems are acting on their long list of grievances that has been compiled for the past few years. We can hopefully expect some bad legislation to be repealed, and fewer “killer amendments/riders” from the Republicans. Her tactics are no different than Hastert’s, and are much more American than Gingrich’s. You know, just like everybody else in this forum, that when the GOP takes the House back after a couple Congresses the new GOP Speaker will do the same thing. As for the Senate, allowing 40 votes to stop a filibuster is necessary (minority rights), but filibusters must force action. The “nuclear option” just side steps important issues that need to be resolved. When we get down to the bare bones of governance we are not very different. Furthermore, let me take this moment to apologize to you Mr. Deal. I left my i.d. logged in, and my youngest made a fool of my name. I know that you were the target of one of his immature antics, and it will not happen again.

  30. Doug Deal says:

    Federalist,

    Even in people with differing political philosophies, there can be common ground.

    There does need to be more deliberation in politics. Whether it be the Patriot Act, No Child Left Behind[sic], Prescription Benefits or responses to school shootings.

    Few things merit absolute haste. Having a breaking mechanism for change (especially change for it’s own sake) is a good thing.

  31. Federalist says:

    absolutely. I like that you mentioned the NCLB. Haste, or “dispatch” as the founders called it, is a tricky concept. It has been easy for elected officials to sneak things into legislation, and for the president to create wars without the consent of Congress. At the same time though, if we did not act immediately after Pearl Harbor or 9/11 I doubt the nation would have survived. Where is the balance struck?

  32. Doug Deal says:

    If it is truly an emergency, people of good will bind together to act with consensus. If it is a dubious emergency, they have trouble overcoming things like fillibusters.

    Although Pearl Harbor did require immediate military rediness, the strategic plans to counteract Japan did not have to be made overnight, and in fact developed over time.

    The key is to give the President flexibility to handle short term emergencies with very strict limits on duration and scope, and require Congress to act on anything beyound those limits.

    If it is truly an emergency, people of good faith will act. If there are not enough people of good faith, the battle is lost anyway.

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