Presidential Debate Tonight

How does it relate to Georgia?  GEORGIA borders South Carolina.  Plus, FOX is billing this as the first debate in the South.  All of us agree that Atlanta is the capitol of the South! 

Get ready!  Debate starts now…

131 comments

  1. Demonbeck says:

    Ron Paul needs to answer all of his questions in Klingon. As much as I love him and his politics, he’s pretty much running for the trekkie vote right now.

  2. Bull Moose says:

    Ron Paul just wants to go ahead and close down the government… Heck, who needs FEMA…

  3. GabrielSterling says:

    Take away line so far…

    “Spending like John Edwards at a beauty shop.” Huckabee’s time in the limelight…

  4. Bull Moose says:

    Jim Gilmore is weak. I think he’s running for a cabinet position… Duncan Hunter has Defense nailed down!

  5. Doug Deal says:

    I had a friend who used to correct other people’s Klingon. I used to make fun of that friend.

    I just used the trusty old interwebamatron dingus and found a Kingon translator and put something in it that Ron Paul might say. Oh, and also I am also probably a nerd.

  6. Demonbeck says:

    I hate to say it, but anyone who gets geeked up about talking about a political debate more than a year before the primary with their internet friends is probably a nerd.

    I’m just here to point that kind of stuff out to you guys.

  7. Demonbeck says:

    “All of us agree that Atlanta is the capitol of the South! ”

    Savannah is the original capitol of the South.

  8. Bull Moose says:

    Demonbeck – Yes, I’m a dork! I’m glad my internet friends are here to discuss the debate!

  9. Chris says:

    I’m starting to like Huckabee – I’m probably gonna lose my Club for Growth membership now

  10. Demonbeck says:

    Mitt Romney should audition for a television series. I understand there’s a position available on Law & Order

  11. BrianDart says:

    Doug,

    Did she ask you that are tell you that? I hope she knows if you get laid or not.

  12. Bull Moose says:

    Good one Demonbeck! I already said that he could play Robert Wagner’s brother in a Hart to Hart reunion. You know, it’s been a long time since Hart to Hart had a reunion.

  13. Demonbeck says:

    My wife is making me watch this debate. I could be watching “Smokin’ Aces” or “House” right now

  14. Demonbeck says:

    “It won’t be a question when you’re married too. So, get used to it.”

    Fixed it for ya, Bart

  15. Groseclose says:

    Did Duncan Hunter really build that wall? Was he out there strectching wire? Digging holes? He said that in the last debate, but I remain cynical!

  16. LymanHall says:

    Tommy Thompson created stem cells. Duncan Hunter built the border fence. Amazing…makes you miss Al Gore.

  17. Doug Deal says:

    Just think, there are 2 people missing from this debate. Next time, they will get about 2 minutes each to speak during a 2 hour show.

  18. Bull Moose says:

    McCain nails it! Take it Romney folks.

    Romney’s flip flops make John Kerry look consistent and I’m still just shocked at some of the Georgians who consider themselves conservatives who are backing a flip flopper like Romney.

    Solely for this race, he joined the NRA and changed his position on guns, flip flopped on abortion, and the list goes on and on… If he flips once, what makes you believe he won’t flip again?

  19. Doug Deal says:

    Ron Paul’s answers on the war are weak. A case can be made for his point of view, but I think he missed it.

    He needs to stick to the parts of his platform that are strong, like his support of the Constitutional limits of federal authority.

    Rudy just ended his hopes.

  20. Bull Moose says:

    You know, I just thought of something while hearing Multiple Choice Romney in the background… Bob Barker is retiring and what a great job for Mitt Romney.

  21. Demonbeck says:

    Paul’s platform takes too long to explain for televised debates.

    That is why a libertarian cannot win.

  22. Doug Deal says:

    Yeah, that’s my point Jason. It was like Dukasis being asked about his wife getting raped during the 1988 debate. He needed more practice in speaking to his opposition to the war.

  23. Jason Pye says:

    Demonbeck,

    There are a few libertarians that do a much better job in presenting the platform. As much as I don’t like the guy, one of them is Michael Badnarik. He always was good at giving soundbite answers.

  24. Demonbeck says:

    Ron Paul thinks differently than most people and it takes more time to get them to look at the issues his way.

    If he had more time to explain his position, he’d run circles around his competition.

  25. Bull Moose says:

    I’m serious about this Price Is Right thing for Mitt Romney. That’s a real prospect. Imagine the influence he would have as the new host of America’s favorite pricing game.

  26. GabrielSterling says:

    Did McCain just say he’d fly to Gitmo and interogate the terrorists a la Jack Bauer?

  27. Demonbeck says:

    McCain needs to get emotional on this issue. Why in the HELL is he not pulling from his experience as a POW on this question?

  28. Doug Deal says:

    Demon,

    He might still get a chance. It is still early, and he can simply claim people took him out of context. If nothing else, the anti war conservatives may rally around him, as the only candidate that shares that sentiment.

    I like his Constitutional view of government to consider him until a clear candidate comes forth. However, I do not see the run of the mill voters thinking anything else but “Ron Paul blames the USA for the attacks”.

  29. I Am Jacks Post says:

    McCain would make sure that enemy combatants have only the newest magazines. Nothing over a couple weeks old. It’s how we’d like other nations to treat us.

  30. Bull Moose says:

    Let me tell you what President Bull Moose would do… I’d use every tool at our nation’s disposal to build an international coalition to stop terrorism and implement a zero tolerance foreign policy toward terrorism. I would then use that coalition and go to the source country and I would wage a war that would make them wish they had never even heard of the United States of America.

  31. Demonbeck says:

    Doug,

    Seriously, Ron Paul never had a chance. Tom Tancredo never had a chance.

    They are up there today because of specific issues.

  32. Bull Moose says:

    The problem with Bush’s war in Iraq is that he did not make use of the full force of the United States. He didn’t follow the Powell Doctrine of using overwhelming force. He went in there with about 1/4 of the force that was necessary and even when it was CLEAR that we needed more troops EARLY on the stubborn man held to his follies and look where we are today.

    Powell Doctrine is the correct answer here.

  33. Doug Deal says:

    Demon,

    Just call me a Cubs fan, and that everyone starts out in first place. And dont forget, there is always next year.

    When does Law and Order come on anyway, I want to see what F. Thompson’s has to say.

  34. Demonbeck says:

    I dunno, the only reason I would ever watch it would be to support Zack Morris.

    Vote for Zack Morris in ’08

  35. GabrielSterling says:

    Bull,

    McCain did better than last time, maybe a bit less coffe beforehand. I’m not for Rudy, but he did the most to help himself tonight…as of now.

  36. Doug Deal says:

    Ron Paul won, because everyone will be talking about how it was America’s fault we got attacked. He has never gotten THAT much press before.

  37. Demonbeck says:

    Rudy, Paul and Tancredo had the lines that will resonate.

    The Tancredo “Jack Bauer” line will be exhausted by Fox

  38. Bull Moose says:

    How about this Gabe — Rudy and McCain won.

    I still say that if the producers of The Price is Right are watching, Mitt Romney is your man!

  39. Chris says:

    At 9:00pm Bull Moose declares John McCain the winner. 🙂

    I think Huckabee is making a name as the number one “also-ran”

  40. Groseclose says:

    My rankings:

    Huckabee–1
    Rudy–2
    McCain–3
    Romney-4
    Gilmore–5
    Brownback–6
    Tancredo-7
    Paul-8
    Thompson-9

  41. Demonbeck says:

    Romney, Gilmore, and Brownback – brought to you by Hellman’s Kraft and Miracle Whip.

    Seriously, those three are about as exciting as the WNBA

  42. Bull Moose says:

    You know, if you can’t step up and run for President like this and get out there now and put your chips where they may and participate in the discussion and do the hard things that it takes to win, why should we just pass an annointment to a candidate that’s not even in the race.

    If we’re just going to recruit candidates at will from Hollywood, you know, I’m sure the writers can come up with some good stuff for a number of people that would make good candidates.

    I’m not saying that I don’t respect Thompson, but I do have more respect for someone who is out there now, working hard, doing the things that it takes to win and taking the real risks than someone sitting at home and just watching and reacting.

  43. Doug Deal says:

    Thompson has little choice, unless you want him to screw over his employer. When he joins Law and Order with him as a star is over, and a coming made for TV movie is as well.

    I think it is a testament to his honorable nature that he hasn’t joined the race, even though he can risk being shut out.

  44. Demonbeck says:

    Bull, I’m gonna disagree with you on that one. This campaign is starting way too early. These debates are too large and unnecessary.

    I would think a McCain supporter would agree with that.

    F Thompson and Gingrich are acting wisely by letting the crowd beat each other to a bloody pulp, so they won’t have to.

  45. Bull Moose says:

    You guys are cracking me up! Yes, McCain won the debate this morning. He’s consistent and I knew that we would have a stellar performance tonight. I had confidence in him and he did not dissapoint.

    My rankings are:

    McCain–1
    Rudy –1.5
    Huckabee – 3
    Romney-4
    Gilmore–5
    Brownback–6
    Tancredo-7
    Paul-8
    Thompson-9

    Okay, I’m ready for Ron Paul, Tom Tancredo, Gilmore, and Duncan Hunter to be left out of the future debates. They aren’t serious candidates. And unfortunately, it’s almost time for Huckabee, Brownback, and Thompson to also sit out the next round.

  46. Demonbeck says:

    F Thompson would be the only candidate who willingly left DC. That says something very profound about him.

  47. Joy says:

    Can Rudy really stand just by the terror – 9/11 issue to get by the abortion / gay / gun ban issues? I can’t picture enough Republicans being THAT forgiving.

    McCain was much less scary looking today, but still didn’t really seem to be out front.

    Mitt Romney was still pretty & polished, though his hair seemed slightly less perfect.

    Ron Paul was great the first couple of statements on the war, but lost it with the final rant.

    Huckabee is very likeable. Brownback and Gilmore, forgettable.

  48. Demonbeck says:

    How about John Edwards and Mitt Romney in the final leg of the “barbershop” trilogy? They could both be Breck salesmen.

  49. Doug Deal says:

    So, since all of us pretty much think these candidates are lackluster. Who besides Newt and F Thompson would you have liked to be here?

    For me, I wish time was more favorable to John Kasich, former budget committee chairman. He should have run for Ohio Governor, and would be a great candidate.

  50. Bull Moose says:

    We are less than a year away from the first primary and given the nature of the problems in America I’m glad that the debates have started so that Americans have a real good chance to engage and get educated about both the facts and the candidates. That, to me, can never start early enough.

    I do agree with you in regards to Kasich. I would absolutlely go all out for a McCain/Kasich ticket but Kasich needs to go run for Governor of Ohio and get ready to run possibly in 2012 or 2016 depending on what happens.

  51. Joy says:

    I know who he is, Demon. I miss his speeches.
    It just struck me as odd because I mentioned elsewhere in the blogosphere tonight that I think “beam me up” everytime Tancredo answers questions in the debates. I’m not sure if the resemblence is only in my head, or if it was the guinness glasses.

  52. Demonbeck says:

    “I’m glad that the debates have started so that Americans have a real good chance to engage and get educated about both the facts and the candidates.”

    If only that would happen…

  53. Doug Deal says:

    Demon,

    I used to watch those 1 minute speaches and agreed with pretty much everything Traficant had to say. He got a pretty raw deal, but what is it they say about a person who represents himself?

  54. Demonbeck says:

    I just want Traficant in there to make the debates more entertaining. He’s a Dem, but voted for Hastert. He could take a podium in debates for both parties.

  55. Doug Deal says:

    Joy,

    This is the second time Demon mentioned a Star Trek reference. I have a feeling he is undergoing withdrawal ever since Enterprise was taken off the air.

  56. Demonbeck says:

    From what I remember, he is the only non-lawyer to successfully defend himself while facing RICO charges.

    Until that last trial at least.

  57. Icarus says:

    “I only watch the original Trek. There is no Captain but Kirk”

    Is that the substitute for our pro-life plank this year?

  58. Joy says:

    Thanks to the magic of the free market, Star Trek is available for those suffering the malady of the zealot. I could fill my DVR with ST/TNG/DS9/Enterprise with just the click of a few options.

    Yes, I left out Voyager on purpose. Funny once.

  59. Doug Deal says:

    Sadly, I watch Enterprise reruns every monday on Sci-Fi, 4 hours of them (albeit while I am doing other things and using my DVR skip feature).

    I can only shake my head at how bad of an actor, Scott “Go” BaKula “to Acting School” is.

  60. Bull Moose says:

    Best line of the night is McCain in responding to Multiple Choice Romney:

    “I’ve taken and kept a consistent position on campaign finance reform. I have kept a consistent position on right to life. And I haven’t changed my position on even number years and haven’t changed my position based on what offices I may be running for.”

  61. Joy says:

    I quit watching the spin offs with Voyager. Couldn’t put myself through it anymore. I’ve never watched an episode of Enterprise. But I could if I wanted to.

    I’m more of a BSG/Doctor girl.

  62. GOPeach says:

    My My My…

    You fellas just yaked all the way through the debate dincha?

    Well I must say that my original choice took the day – TOM TANCREDO! Doesn’t he connect? What a great communicator, down to earth. He is so REAL! … I loved the Jack Bauer comment!

    Mike Huckabee was wonderful. He connected also. I can see either one of thes guys getting the young vote. My kids liked them too.

    I love Rudy’s personality. I think he is cool but..
    his philosophy to go soft on social issues in order to win the democrats in the general is a major compromise. ” America’s Mayor” is a nice title.
    I like that a lot.

    John McCain…. weeeeelll he looks great for 70 and I like that he has 7 kids. That is wonderful.

    Mitt … He is too pretty or something…. I can’t quite put my finger on it..

    I am a Tom Tancredo / Mike Huckabee girl tonight…

    BTW… we Tevoed American Idol and I like Melinda Doolittle… She reminds me of Tina Turner….

  63. Bull Moose says:

    I hate to say this, Tommy Thompson would have been a great candidate for President in 1996 but he just doesn’t seem to have it for 2008. Though he’s very smart and talented. If he were younger I’d say he has a bright future.

  64. Erick says:

    Was it just me or did it look like Tommy Thompson’s jowls might at any moment come untucked from his collar? Maybe that’s why he wouldn’t turn his head.

  65. GabrielSterling says:

    When a second tier guy like Huckabee arguably has the best night for himself, it shows the opening available to Fred Thompson. He’s winning straw polls around the nation, and that’s without an organized campaign.

    Another note, any of them (other than Ron Paul, but mainly because of his unrealistic foreign policy) would do a better job of being President than any person on the Dem side.

  66. waterboy says:

    After watching the debate and then scanning these posts, three things jump out. First, y’all really do need to get a life. Second, Rudy looked like a fool. And finally, Bull Moose is scared Romney will overtake his boy McCain – his fear is justified.

  67. jsm says:

    Not only are Tommy Thompson’s ears big and uneven, his skin doesn’t seem to fit him. Somehow, he makes me think of the farmer in MIB that the alien had killed and inhabited his body.

  68. drjay says:

    mitt romney blah…i am still undecided but i definitely know i am not for willard…i was oddly impressed w/ rudy last nite.

    i thought the tancredo “jack baeur” line was absurd…

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