Comments on: As An Aside [UPDATE] http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/ Fresh Political Pickins From The Peach State Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:13:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bull Moose http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/comment-page-2/#comment-64257 Bull Moose Mon, 23 Apr 2007 03:40:41 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/#comment-64257 All this 2010 stuff is going to kill the party... All this 2010 stuff is going to kill the party…

]]> By: Demonbeck http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/comment-page-2/#comment-63930 Demonbeck Fri, 20 Apr 2007 21:43:25 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/#comment-63930 Because he would be correct Erick. A press conference does not make policy. It can announce policy but there are specific actions that make it. Because he would be correct Erick. A press conference does not make policy. It can announce policy but there are specific actions that make it.

]]> By: Erick http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/comment-page-2/#comment-63927 Erick Fri, 20 Apr 2007 21:10:32 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/#comment-63927 Doug, I believe the vetoed legislation is returned to the secretaries of the two bodies. You can bet that's what the Governor will argue. And he'd probably win. Doug, I believe the vetoed legislation is returned to the secretaries of the two bodies.

You can bet that’s what the Governor will argue. And he’d probably win.

]]> By: CHelf http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/comment-page-2/#comment-63925 CHelf Fri, 20 Apr 2007 21:04:46 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/#comment-63925 Hmmm...I guess if this sets precedent, future governors better not be caught on tape even hinting of a veto. Be careful with emails discussing a veto and make sure no one is saying anything in IM's. The walls have ears. Hmmm…I guess if this sets precedent, future governors better not be caught on tape even hinting of a veto. Be careful with emails discussing a veto and make sure no one is saying anything in IM’s. The walls have ears.

]]> By: Doug Deal http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/comment-page-2/#comment-63919 Doug Deal Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:59:30 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/#comment-63919 Erick, How have veto transmittals been conducted tranditionally? Erick,

How have veto transmittals been conducted tranditionally?

]]> By: Erick http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/comment-page-2/#comment-63917 Erick Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:46:47 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/#comment-63917 Inside, As I said in that post, I concur with the way the House is headed. There need not be a formal transmittal as Sonny has already informed the legislature of his veto and the reasons for the veto pursuant to Subparagraph C of the relevant section of the Constitution. And the relevant subsection on the override does not actually say what the House must be in receipt of -- it could be receipt of notice. Inside,
As I said in that post, I concur with the way the House is headed. There need not be a formal transmittal as Sonny has already informed the legislature of his veto and the reasons for the veto pursuant to Subparagraph C of the relevant section of the Constitution.

And the relevant subsection on the override does not actually say what the House must be in receipt of — it could be receipt of notice.

]]> By: Inside_Man http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/comment-page-2/#comment-63915 Inside_Man Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:42:55 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/#comment-63915 Erick, Somone did notice your hotshot legal analysis - very good work. However the House has a convincing argument that Perdue's press conference last night meets the constitutional requirement, as he signed and explained the reasons for the veto on camera. The Constitution (that section) was written before television, so if the AG or SC rules with the House (and several of them are no fans of Sonny) then the Senate would be forced to vote. If not, some are saying that the Senate would override if given the chance, now one of them has to stick his neck out and make the motion, so Cagle can refuse to entertain it. If an appeal of the decision of the chair follows Cagle stopping the motion, then it takes the same number of Senators to override Cagle as it does to override Sonny. Tonight could be more interesting that this morning if things play out right. Erick,

Somone did notice your hotshot legal analysis – very good work. However the House has a convincing argument that Perdue’s press conference last night meets the constitutional requirement, as he signed and explained the reasons for the veto on camera. The Constitution (that section) was written before television, so if the AG or SC rules with the House (and several of them are no fans of Sonny) then the Senate would be forced to vote. If not, some are saying that the Senate would override if given the chance, now one of them has to stick his neck out and make the motion, so Cagle can refuse to entertain it. If an appeal of the decision of the chair follows Cagle stopping the motion, then it takes the same number of Senators to override Cagle as it does to override Sonny. Tonight could be more interesting that this morning if things play out right.

]]> By: Erick http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/comment-page-2/#comment-63902 Erick Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:08:44 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/#comment-63902 Hey Philly, while I was tossing another comment from another post, I noticed yours on Cagle. It's gone. No need to get into people's private lives. Hey Philly, while I was tossing another comment from another post, I noticed yours on Cagle. It’s gone. No need to get into people’s private lives.

]]> By: Donkey Kong http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/comment-page-2/#comment-63901 Donkey Kong Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:07:32 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/#comment-63901 CHelf, thus the need for the flat tax, as Speaker Richardson proposed: http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/legis07/stories/2007/04/19/0420metlegflattax.html CHelf, thus the need for the flat tax, as Speaker Richardson proposed:

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/legis07/stories/2007/04/19/0420metlegflattax.html

]]> By: CHelf http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/comment-page-2/#comment-63900 CHelf Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:04:22 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/#comment-63900 Can someone actually break down the "tax relief" other than the $50-100 potentially for only those who own property? Can someone actually break down the “tax relief” other than the $50-100 potentially for only those who own property?

]]> By: bowersville http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/comment-page-2/#comment-63891 bowersville Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:39:59 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/#comment-63891 sorry...left out the override in my haste. should read veto override. sorry…left out the override in my haste. should read veto override.

]]> By: CobbGOPer http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/comment-page-2/#comment-63889 CobbGOPer Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:36:51 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/#comment-63889 Excerpted from Armey's letter to Cagle, which (for bowersville's sake) urges Cagle to OVERRIDE the veto: "Indeed, according to the latest rankings from the Tax Foundation, Georgia’s state and local tax burden of 10.3 percent is higher than neighboring states Florida, Tennessee, and Alabama. It is time to put taxpayers first, and to remember that it is their hard-earned money that is under discussion. As such, I urge your support for the $142 million in tax relieve for Georgia taxpayers." Right on. Excerpted from Armey’s letter to Cagle, which (for bowersville’s sake) urges Cagle to OVERRIDE the veto:

“Indeed, according to the latest rankings from the Tax Foundation, Georgia’s state and local tax burden of 10.3 percent is higher than neighboring states Florida, Tennessee, and Alabama.

It is time to put taxpayers first, and to remember that it is their hard-earned money that is under discussion. As such, I urge your support for the $142 million in tax relieve for Georgia taxpayers.”

Right on.

]]> By: bowersville http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/comment-page-2/#comment-63884 bowersville Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:24:13 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/#comment-63884 The AJC PI is reporting Dick Armey has weighed in with a letter to Casey Cagle urging a veto. Now it's back to the sand box for me. The AJC PI is reporting Dick Armey has weighed in with a letter to Casey Cagle urging a veto.

Now it’s back to the sand box for me.

]]> By: rugby_fan http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/comment-page-2/#comment-63881 rugby_fan Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:18:12 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/#comment-63881 Either way Philly, there is still a huge difference between calling someone a liar and allegations of sexual impropriety. Either way Philly, there is still a huge difference between calling someone a liar and allegations of sexual impropriety.

]]> By: bowersville http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/comment-page-2/#comment-63879 bowersville Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:10:21 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/#comment-63879 Avoiding the threadjack and moving right along. Travis Fain @ Macon.com may be worth a read...The Speaker and the Lt. Gov are not in the chamber. Compromise? Richardson's steam seems to center on whether the supplemental exists or not and whether it can be carried over to the 08 fiscal budget if it doesn't exist. Avoiding the threadjack and moving right along.

Travis Fain @ Macon.com may be worth a read…The Speaker and the Lt. Gov are not in the chamber.

Compromise?

Richardson’s steam seems to center on whether the supplemental exists or not and whether it can be carried over to the 08 fiscal budget if it doesn’t exist.

]]> By: Philly http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/comment-page-2/#comment-63877 Philly Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:02:43 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/#comment-63877 I never called Cagle a pedophile. I said young aide. I am 58 years old, anyone under 30 is young to me. Cagle has become Perdue's puppet. No suprise... I never called Cagle a pedophile. I said young aide. I am 58 years old, anyone under 30 is young to me.

Cagle has become Perdue’s puppet. No suprise…

]]> By: Donkey Kong http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/comment-page-2/#comment-63874 Donkey Kong Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:55:13 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/#comment-63874 C'mon now, where is yall's impassioned loyalty to Cagle that you demonstrated so heavily during the elections? Now some speculate Reed would be doing better? Look, Cagle has so far done an impeccable job. I really hope he sees something that we are all missing. My first impression from Cagle was that he was weak and a pushover. Although I still supported his opponent in the primaries, with the exception of a few attack ads I found to cross the line, he earned a lot of respect from me. Even more so for his actions this session, until a few days ago. For all of our sake, I hope Cagle pulls something out of his sleeve to prove us wrong. My first impression was not good, and I don't wish to return to it. C’mon now, where is yall’s impassioned loyalty to Cagle that you demonstrated so heavily during the elections? Now some speculate Reed would be doing better?

Look, Cagle has so far done an impeccable job. I really hope he sees something that we are all missing. My first impression from Cagle was that he was weak and a pushover. Although I still supported his opponent in the primaries, with the exception of a few attack ads I found to cross the line, he earned a lot of respect from me. Even more so for his actions this session, until a few days ago. For all of our sake, I hope Cagle pulls something out of his sleeve to prove us wrong. My first impression was not good, and I don’t wish to return to it.

]]> By: rugby_fan http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/comment-page-1/#comment-63872 rugby_fan Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:52:54 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/#comment-63872 Calling someone a liar is one thing. A pedophile is something else all together. Calling someone a liar is one thing. A pedophile is something else all together.

]]> By: Philly http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/comment-page-1/#comment-63868 Philly Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:44:55 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/#comment-63868 Demonbeck, do you have proof about all the things you guys have said about Ralph? Is that slander or libel? Demonbeck, do you have proof about all the things you guys have said about Ralph? Is that slander or libel?

]]> By: Philly http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/comment-page-1/#comment-63867 Philly Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:40:34 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/04/20/as-an-aside/#comment-63867 I said it was a rumor, not fact. It is a rumor that has been floating around for several months. Can any of you deny that you have not heard that rumor? If Bill Simon gets away with all the sludge he posts, I don't see an issue with posting a rumor. I said it was a rumor, not fact. It is a rumor that has been floating around for several months. Can any of you deny that you have not heard that rumor?

If Bill Simon gets away with all the sludge he posts, I don’t see an issue with posting a rumor.

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