As An Aside [UPDATE]

April 20, 2007 12:35 pm

by Erick · 67 comments

SEVERAL SENATE SOURCES SAY THAT CASEY CAGLE IS THE SOLE OBSTACLE TO A VOTE AND SEVERAL OF HIS LOYAL LIEUTENANTS ARE CONTEMPLATING PUSHING THE MATTER TO THE FLOOR TO DEMAND AN OVERRIDE. SENATE DEMOCRATS ARE PREPARED TO OVERRIDE THE GOVERNOR.

It appears the Senate, save Casey, wants to vote to override the Govenor’s veto, but they are concerned about the constitutionality.

However, if both Houses of the General Assembly are in agreement and interpret the matter the same way, the Supreme Court will most likely stay out of the matter. This gives additional cause for the Senate to go on and vote one way or the other and avert a pending constitutional crisis.

{ 67 comments }

GOPeach April 20, 2007 at 12:43 pm

I miss RALPH!

GOPeach April 20, 2007 at 12:46 pm

Ralph Reed would not be doing this. He is not a banker.

rugby_fan April 20, 2007 at 12:46 pm

Ralph was ever in the Senate?

griftdrift April 20, 2007 at 12:47 pm

No he’s not a banker. He’s just a shill. Banker’s actually have to follow rules.

GOPeach April 20, 2007 at 12:48 pm

Ralph would not be Sonny’s boy.

dingleberry April 20, 2007 at 12:49 pm

How in the hell did this become about Reed?

Whether you like Casey or not, he’s the one being the douchebag here. He’s the one being the Shill. Ralph isn’t even in the legislature.

Cagle can kiss his little campaing for Governor in 2010 goodbye!

I Am Jacks Post April 20, 2007 at 12:49 pm

You’re right Peach. Ralph Reed would never act like this because he’s a principled conservative with only the best, selfless motives at heart.

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

Erick April 20, 2007 at 12:52 pm

THREADJACK! THREADJACK! THREADJACK!

MUST BAN GOPPEACH FOR THREADJACKING.

Icarus April 20, 2007 at 12:53 pm

Free Bull Moose.

Bobby Kahn April 20, 2007 at 12:54 pm

So why did Sonny announce the veto, but not transmit the it?

Chris April 20, 2007 at 12:56 pm

Bobby,

My guess: he secretly works for you.

Chris

Icarus April 20, 2007 at 12:56 pm

Bobby,

You’ve got to be saying to yourself,

“I can’t believe we lost to this guy?”

griftdrift April 20, 2007 at 12:56 pm

Bobby, I must congratulate on your restraint.

I’d probably running through the woods whooping at the top of my lungs.

Chris April 20, 2007 at 12:56 pm

Erick.

I’ll second the motion regarding banning GOPeach.

Can we suspend the rules and call the question?

griftdrift April 20, 2007 at 12:58 pm

Unlock the machine!

Bobby Kahn April 20, 2007 at 1:04 pm

Icarus-

I say that every day.

freeloader April 20, 2007 at 1:07 pm

Why does Bobby need to restrain himself. It really couldn’t get any funnier – all he needs to do is sit back and laugh.

griftdrift April 20, 2007 at 1:08 pm

Sorry. Didn’t use my tags.

freeloader April 20, 2007 at 1:09 pm

If Ralph had been elected, Johnson would be in charge – just like when Taylor was LG. Ralph would have been irrelevant.

griftdrift April 20, 2007 at 1:10 pm

That should have been sarcasm tags. heh. CSS actually tried to interpret them.

Demonbeck April 20, 2007 at 1:17 pm

Ralph Reed is a God-fearing man who tithes in an interesting way.

He takes the millions he bilks from his customers and throws it all up in the air.

Whatever God catches, He can keep.

bowersville April 20, 2007 at 1:23 pm

The ruling by the court of public opinion on election day will be of far greater importance than the Ga. Supreme ruling, if there is one.

Make no mistake, this is political brinkmanship and the stakes couldn’t be any higher.

Senate, choose wisely. Override it and let the chips fall.

I Am Jacks Post April 20, 2007 at 1:30 pm

Nice one, Demonbeck. Ralph Reed and Pac Man Jones. They’re both “making it rain.”

CobbGOPer April 20, 2007 at 1:34 pm

If Casey holds up this override, IMHO that makes Richardson the “champion” of conservative principles as we move toward the longest campaign for governor in GA history. If he doesn’t, it makes Sonny a lame duck immediately.

Guess it depends on what Sonny is proposing to do for Casey in return, if indeed that is what’s going on behind closed doors.

CHelf April 20, 2007 at 1:37 pm

We have to ask Bobby if he actually did ever lose Perdue after seeing all of this transpire. What has single-handedly sent the majority party off the edge of the cliff and now into a Constitutional crisis? This makes the GOP look like keystone cops.

stephaniemills21 April 20, 2007 at 1:47 pm

Seriously,

Are you people really surprised at Sonny’s actions (or lack thereof)? He has been odd man out in every session thus far in his tenure. Every year during the session I hear folk question “where has Sonny been?”

He likes it this way. That way he can say he did not cause the problems and was left with only one course of action – the veto. It does not matter what we all think, but how it plays to the rest of the state. And I think that the way most people will see it is the way that McLagan put it: “Now that the House is done with their temper tantrum hopefully they can come back in and finish their homework.” Now, Sonny gets to be that “Nanny Government” he always warns us about and teach those guys in the legislature who is boss.

Chris April 20, 2007 at 1:50 pm

I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say Casey has something up his sleeve. The big question is what, and when will the rest of us go “Oh, duh, should have seen that coming”.

Icarus April 20, 2007 at 1:54 pm

Chris,

You’re on the right track.

CHelf April 20, 2007 at 2:01 pm

If anything we see a few people’s true colors in this. And even some like Mr. Scott have taken some greater hits on this. Regardless of how rosy this turns out, you cannot say this wasn’t costly.

Icarus April 20, 2007 at 2:04 pm

Chelf,

If you put a cost-benefit analysis on this, it’s a project only the government would underwrite.

rightofcenter April 20, 2007 at 2:08 pm

To all,
I apologize for stating the obvious, but you guys take yourselves way to seriously. These “this kills Casey in ’10″ or this is Sonny’s deathknell” or “Bobby should be running through the woods shouting” are hilarious because they are so far off. Nobody but people who get their jollies on politics (which is about 1% of the voting public) even pays attention to the General Assembly during an off-year. This will have no bearing on anybody’s popularity. Sonny’s popularity is totally unrelated to what goes on when the legislature is in session and totally related to the rest of the year. Casey will be the same way. When the session (or special session) is over, he’ll be just like Sonny and get to play his Lt. Gov. card all across the state. Barnes was a magnicent “legislating governor” but he was horrible at the rest of the stuff.

Okay, back to the sandbox for you who strive on this stuff.

adamsmith4883 April 20, 2007 at 2:13 pm

You say only about 1% of the public is will remember this. But, that one percent will be the ones who will actively campaign for a certain candidate, be writing letters to the editor, and, with some of them, be drafting attack ads. It doesn’t matter if people remember this. They can be easily reminded by those who do…

griftdrift April 20, 2007 at 2:16 pm

Yeah and no voters remembered the 95 federal government shut down either.

And Austin Scott just lost his chairmanship.

Can’t wait for the convention!

Erick April 20, 2007 at 2:18 pm

I’m upset none of you noticed my brillaint, on the go legal explanation of why what the House did just might be unconstitutional.

griftdrift April 20, 2007 at 2:18 pm

Law = boring

Speculating on the next massacre = adrenalizing!

griftdrift April 20, 2007 at 2:19 pm

I meant political massacre of course. That might have been a poor choice of words.

Erick April 20, 2007 at 2:20 pm

Paging the FBI. Paging the FBI.

Holly April 20, 2007 at 2:20 pm

Casey is supposed to speak at the 10th district convention tomorrow. Should be a blast. . .

CHelf April 20, 2007 at 2:21 pm

Don’t mind the SWAT team kicking down your door right now.

griftdrift April 20, 2007 at 2:22 pm

I knew I shouldn’t be posting on a Republican board! God knows what you monitor!

CobbGOPer April 20, 2007 at 2:30 pm

Besides, rightofcenter, we can all see the direct mail and commercials now:

“Casey Cagle says he’s the conservative candidate for Governor. He says he wants principled tax and spending policies. But in 2006, he failed Georgia’s taxpayersby killing a $142 million tax cut…”

And the next line would run something like “Glenn Richardson (or Westmoreland, or Isakson, etc.), the REAL conservative for Governor.”

Demonbeck April 20, 2007 at 2:30 pm

Philly,

Unless you have proof, I’d be very careful with who and how you slander public officials.

CHelf April 20, 2007 at 2:33 pm

We know all about those little quiet backroom spreading of rumors….reminds me of somone’s particular M.O.

adamsmith4883 April 20, 2007 at 2:33 pm

That would actually be libel… ;-)

CobbGOPer April 20, 2007 at 2:34 pm

Smiddy’s right, that actually qualifies as libel.

GOPeach April 20, 2007 at 2:38 pm

Philly —

C’mon …

You know Casey does not support AIDS.

griftdrift April 20, 2007 at 2:40 pm

Wow. At least I just chose my words poorly.

Philly April 20, 2007 at 2:40 pm

I said it was a rumor, not fact. It is a rumor that has been floating around for several months. Can any of you deny that you have not heard that rumor?

If Bill Simon gets away with all the sludge he posts, I don’t see an issue with posting a rumor.

Philly April 20, 2007 at 2:44 pm

Demonbeck, do you have proof about all the things you guys have said about Ralph? Is that slander or libel?

rugby_fan April 20, 2007 at 2:52 pm

Calling someone a liar is one thing. A pedophile is something else all together.

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