You’ve Got To Respect Casey Cagle

Last year I asked you all whether the House or Senate was the more conservative body. I had initially posited that it was the House, but several friends got me thinking about it and, having looked into it, I decided it was the Senate. This year, yet again, I’d have to say that the Senate is the conservative body and the House is the Republican body.

Jerry Keen, I think, has just proven that. The Political Insider notes a few things worth repeating:

Keen and other House leaders, all Republican, expressed bewilderment at a left-field move by Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle to reject out-of-hand a $700 million spending bill to augment the current budget.

It’d be an understatement to say that Cagle’s decision to make the issue a very public matter of Republican philosophy has put them on the defensive. . . .

Republicans promised that when they were put in charge, they’d abolish supplemental spending. House Republicans, in their third year of power, haven’t done that. But Keen argues that they have made the process transparent, and raised standards for mid-year spending.

I think it speaks well of Casey that he is willing to have this debate and make it a public debate. I would also go further than him and say the spending is not needed at all and should either be put in a rainy day fund or, more appropriately, returned to the taxpayers.


  1. whitemalevoters says:


    It would be really cool if you would give the whole story before trying to praise Casey Cagle.

    Read the rest of the article. Cagle doesn’t want to stop the money from being spent. He just wants to put it in next years budget. This isn’t a question of conservatism. It’s an argument between the two houses deciding when to rape the taxpayers.

  2. drjay says:

    careful erick–you’ll begin to sound a little like bull moose yourself–is the mccain praise article your next posting?? 😉

  3. Icarus says:

    I agree that the Senate is more conservative, but did we ever settle which one would win in a bar fight?

  4. Bull Moose says:

    I think that Jerry Keen was launching a very public PR game here to save face for the House of Representatives.

    Casey is standing on principles while the leaders of the House are standing on political points.

    It’s hypocritical to criticize Democrats for something and then turn around and do it yourself, which is what Republican House Members were doing with the supplimental budget.

    Transparency is great, but not porking it up is even better.

    Hold your ground Casey Cagle (oh and help defeat SB 43 too).

  5. TheGoldenOne says:

    Harbin just sent a very strong message to the Senate that the House is united, and strong. Cagle intially looked good in his first move but with Harbin’s repsonse he’s lost all momentum he once had.

  6. tony r says:

    Somebody explain to me how its standing on conservative principle to just move money around?

    The rubber meets the road when the session is over and we’ll see if they actually cut anything. They won’t.

    For the life of me I can’t figure out what cagle is doing. Seems like he’s in over his head to me.

  7. dingleberry says:

    “Casey is standing on principles while the leaders of the House are standing on political points.”

    Yet another gem to add to “Wit and Wisdom of Bull Moose Archive”.

    What principle, Bull? He’s not saving the taxpayers a dime. He’s simply waiting to spend the money in July. I swear to God, you say the dumbest things.

  8. ugavi says:

    I agree with adamsmith4883 – Cagle and Richardson are setting up their runs in 2010. They do need to keep in mind that they are on the same team…

  9. Icarus says:

    There’s two issues here. The supplemental budget, and decreasing spending.

    Cagle wants to keep his promise to eliminate the supplemental budget. My understanding is that he believes the supplemental has become an excuse for pork, and he wants all spending weighed at the same time in one budget.

    As for reducing spending (or at least reducing the rate of spending increases), the Senate has already passed SR20 to limit spending to population increases and inflation.

    If you put the two items together, it looks like the Senate is doing more than just paying lip service to the idea of fiscal responsibility.

  10. Bull Moose says:

    Most are missing the point. Republicans attacked Democrats for the supplimental budget. Yet, here are Republicans floating a big old supplimental budget. You can’t say one thing and do another without looking like a hypocrite.

  11. jsm says:

    If the money is spent now via the supplemental budget, the porkers will only ask for more money in the budget in July. I think making them wait to put spending in next year’s budget is a good move. At least it demonstrates some fiscal restraint. How next year’s budget is handled will then tell the rest of the story.

  12. CobbGOPer says:

    Ah yes, Glenn Richardson and Casey Cagle. Two excellent reasons to vote for Johnny Isakson for Governor in 2010.

  13. tony r says:

    Bull, I don’t think you get it. I don’t think too many folks have a problem with a change in the budget process – including house leaders.

    But casey is saying one thing and doing another. He says this is about cutting spending when he also says these projects are fine as long as they are in one budget and not another?????

    He can’t have it both ways. He’s the one looking like a hypocrite here. And he’s taking the senate down into that mud with him.

  14. tony r says:

    And cobb – you just nailed it on the head.

    I’m for johnny or lynn or anyone but these high schoolers.

  15. drjay says:

    holding off spending until the next budget does show some semblance of fiscal restraint–there is no guarantee given for those items come the next budget and getting rid of the supplemental makes giving out “candy” just that much harder–this seems like a sincere effort to rein in the beast…

  16. IndyInjun says:

    Putting the spending in this supplemental into next year’s budget commits Georgia to a large SURPLUS this year and has the effect of supplanting other spending with the items so deferred. In this manner the items in the supplemental compete with other spending, so that there is greater prioritization. Furthermore we taxpayers do not have to fund a grab bag of pork projects that are insuffienciently debated and forced through at the last moment.

    The HOUSE is totally off-base and clearly has abandoned its promise of fiscal responsibility. I am a constituent of Harbin’s and intend to ask what the heck they are thinking at the earliest opportunity.

    I was proud to have supported Cagle and applaud his dedication to the stated principles of the GOP.

    As for the House, they are reminding me why I am so furious with the GOP as they are acting like their Washington, DC counterparts that we fiscal conservatives sent home in droves last November.

    I have generously supported GOP candidates, but am now given to telling them that they need to quit the party and become Independents.

    Like the idiots in DC, the Georgia GOP House is focused erroneously on tax reform, while the Senate is correctly focused on spending reform. Give the Senate credit for taking the tough approach that leads to LOWER TAXES, irrespective of the tax system.

    Does the GOP have a death wish at all levels?

    Casey Cagle and the Senate seem to get it.

  17. Mad Dog says:

    Half the GOP will support Cagle fartin’ Dixie while jay-walking and take pride in the great man’s ability to carry a fine tune.

  18. CobbGOPer says:

    I’d vote for Lynn, but only if Isakson didn’t enter the race. But he’s a damn sight better than Cagle and Richardson.

  19. IndyInjun says:

    Sorry, CobbGOPer, but Isakson voted for the largest social spending program since LBJ as a member of the U.S. House, so that ANY Democrat is demonstrably more fiscal responsible.

    See, y’all are just a lighter shade of Democrat.

    The PEOPLE say a pox on y’all for you stand only for TALK that is the opposite of your DEEDS.

  20. IndyInjun says:

    Yeah, Isakson got the airline pension bailout done shortly after Delta’s CEO escaped with $10 million in severance.

    The bail-out increases the unfunded liability thrown on the backs of the taxpayer.

    To cut to the chase, it means making whole the corporate looters and pensioners on the backs of all taxpayers, the hapless majority of whom have 401 K’s.

    Isakson is the puppet of the corporate masters and one who has put a crushing debt load on the rest of us.

  21. Bull Moose says:

    Children, “simmer down now”!

    We’re talking about politics! We’re not always going to agree (thankfully)!

    Cagle or Isakson are my choices for Governor, but heavens, that’s 3 years away.

    “Simmer down now, ya here!”

  22. CobbGOPer says:

    “The PEOPLE say a pox on y’all for you stand only for TALK that is the opposite of your DEEDS.”


  23. Bill Arp says:

    The Senate being conservative…that is a joke….the house is trying to pay for items with the revenue that was obtained above and beyond what they expected instead of bonding the big projects and paying for them for the next 20 years….the house is protecting our AAA bond rating so that we can have bonds in the future…

  24. IndyInjun says:

    Bill Arp

    Exactly how is EITHER body dealing with the $billion or so unfunded liability for retiree/employee health insurance benefits to protect said AAA bond rating?

    Either I that one, or they have irresponsibly decided to postpone what will be a tough decision.

    Once again, putting the items now in the supplemental into the 2008 budget forces the legislature to reconsider whether they are truly priority items worthy of bumping other priorities.

    How the AAA rating is adversely affected by having a larger surplus is unclear from this vantage point, although further explanation would be duly considered.

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