Newt to run and Senators can’t find a horse.

Matt Towery says take it to the bank Newt is running:

It’s time for me to say it: I’m 100 percent positive that Gingrich will enter the battle for the GOP nomination. I don’t need to hear a confirmation from his lips, nor will I seek to press him on the point. That could put him in the awkward position of having to offer an indefensible untruth.

Meanwhile under the Gold Dome, a group of State Senators met to talk about backing a Presidential candidate and couldn’t find one:

So far as we can tell, participants included state Sens. Chip Rogers of Woodstock, John Wiles of Kennesaw, David Shafer of Duluth, state Reps. Tom Graves of Ranger and Steve Davis of McDonough.

These are mostly hard-core conservatives. We’re told the group adjourned without making a decision, but dissatisfaction was a general theme. First on the agenda appears to be primarily ABJM, as in Anybody But John McCain. Second is ABRG. As in Rudy Giuliani.

48 comments

  1. JRM2016 says:

    I hope Towery is right. Finally someone to rally around. But I still would like to see Fred Thompson get in…has anyone heard anything since the FNC interview last weekend?

  2. ugadog says:

    As a Democrat, I actually don’t mind Newt that much. I do agree that he will get in. There’s no reason for him to announce his affairs unless he’s going to get in.

  3. JRM2016 says:

    rugby_fan:

    As long as he is registered somewhere, that is ok with me. Fred Thompson can win; he has credentials; he would be a hit with the media and he is a REAL conservative.

    But Gingrich would be great too, I just think it is a steeper climb to the nomination.

  4. drjay says:

    it’s not unheard of for folks out of office for a while to be “from” states other than those they are most associated w/–nixon was a “new yorker” in 68 for example…i’m not sure why it would matter much if thompson has done the same

  5. Doug Deal says:

    It only matters in the case of a VP being from the same state, as an elector has to vote for at least one person that is not from their state. So if Thompson was a TNer then he wanted to select Frist as his VP, one of them would have to be from someplace else.

    If Cheney did not “move” to Wyoming, and stated a Texas resident, Texan electors could only vote for one or the other. In the end, it would have meant only Bush or Cheney could be legally elected since the elections were so close. The other office would have been sent to the House or Senate for the President and VP respectfully.

  6. drjay says:

    o.k so the implication is frist might be angling for vp–well that won’t happen in a million years so no big deal…

  7. Bull Moose says:

    Conservatives are going to do whatever it takes to find someone they think can win and the rest of the voters in the country are going to see through it.

    McCain would be the best pick for the Republican Party because he is conservative, strong on the war against terror, and a tried and true leader in the same model as Teddy Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan. But most importantly, he can win in November 2008.

    Let’s get realistic, Romney doesn’t have a shot. He’s already reorganizing his campaign team and coming in 4th place in Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina. Giuliani has serious questions about not only his conservative credentials, but his past decisions regarding his family life. That speaks volumes about a persons character. Gingrich left his previous wives in the middle of serious medical situations (who does that?) and his ego got so bad in the 90’s that he self destructed. He’s a great policy wonk, but that’s the extent.

    Personally, I think all this talk about Fred Thompson is just a ruse to get donors to sit out this reporting period and keep money away from some of the other candidates.

  8. JasonW says:

    I want a Newt/Thompson Ticket…lol. J/k….kinda. I like both candidates. A recent time poll found that 69 percent of Republicans aren’t happy with candidates running in their primary, even though Guiliani has a big lead. I think that if Thompson and Newt get in, there will be a big shakeup. People will jump ship (particularly from Romney’s race) imho, and will back one of those more conservative candidates. We are in for a long, long 2007 😀

  9. Bull Moose says:

    I don’t think Thompson runs. I think he’s just a way of keeping money out of the pockets of other candidates.

    As for Giuliani, according to Political Wire, he has some serious problems: Rudy Giuliani’s law firm “has lobbied for years on behalf of an oil company controlled by the Venezuelan president, Hugo Chávez, a strident critic of President Bush and American-style capitalism,” reports the New York Times.

    “Bracewell & Giuliani, the firm based in Houston that Mr. Giuliani joined as a name partner two years ago, handles lobbying in the Texas capital for the Citgo Petroleum Corporation of Houston. Citgo is the American subsidiary of Petróleos de Venezuela, the state-owned oil company that Mr. Chávez controls. Mr. Giuliani’s duties at his law firm do not include lobbying. But the financial relationship with a company affiliated with one of the most outspoken critics of the United States potentially exposes Mr. Giuliani to new scrutiny as he campaigns to become the Republican nominee for president in 2008.”

  10. GAWire says:

    Let’s get something strait here first … Matt Towery is a douche bag! He doesn’t know his a** from a hole in the ground. His “data” is about as valuable as tits on a boarhog. So, anything he says should not be taken with a grain of salt, but instead be thrown out with the leftover St Patty’s day Guinness bottles without even thinking twice about it.

    With that being said, however, I have been saying Newt is in this race for a while now. He is and I am going to go one step further – Newt will make it further than Rudy and Romney! Just watch.

    As for Bull – I’m not a Rudy fan and yes, there will be plenty to come out on him, but please drop the McCain horsesh^%! McCain is a sorry Republican and a sorry Senator for that matter. Moreover, the only Senator that will potentially be in the WH is the one that has to sit to pee-pee.

    In regards to Rudy – folks, he’s toast. He ain’t an option. Screw the crap about his firm working with an oil company controlled by Hugo Chavez and all that malarky. That doesn’t matter and I can assure you that’s not even the tip of the iceberg in terms of the barrage that Hillary’s team is ready to launch at him (you thought the CNN Live from Baghdad stuff was amazing …). If Rudy, McCain or Romney are the GOP nominees, we might as well go ahead and start preparing for all the “what type of outfit will the first female president wear to her inauguration?” articles.

    Back to Newt – I’m not saying he will win. I am saying he will run and he has potential to do well through the Primaries. I sure as hell don’t need Matt-“The only data I understand is the beeps on my own gaydar”-Towery to confirm it. I also would welcome a Fred Thompson run, and perhaps even have him team up with Newt. Do I think that’s realistic? Probably not. Do I think we (the GOP) have much to look forward to on the ’08 horizon? Definitely not. Do I take every chance I get to make fun of Matt Towery’s Ralph Reed predictions? Bien sur!

  11. GAWire says:

    I should back up why I don’t think McCain, Rudy or Romney will win – the numbers aren’t there. I don’t have time or space to explain it here, but I assure you the numbers are not there. Perhaps the numbers aren’t there for any GOP candidate at this point, but if I were a data kind of guy, I might run some data models and simulations as to who has the most viabililty and potential in terms of numbers in the electoral makeup of the country, then I would find that those three guys cannot pull the numbers off to be elected. (I would also find that others like Obama, Brownback and Edwards also don’t have a chance to win the WH).

  12. Bull Moose says:

    GAWire while I really love your direct to the point assessment, McCain is the natural heir to the Reagan legacy.

    He is a common sense conservative, plain and simple. I know that’s hard to believe for some. He’s our best candidate to go toe to toe with Hilarry and can win!

    Let’s unite behind McCain the way that Democrats are beginning to unite behind Hillary and let’s march to victory in November 2008.

    Members of the extreme right are never going to be happy. McCain is right for America and can win.

  13. GAWire says:

    Bull, listening to your crap about McCain annoys me more than watching that dumbass Jack Bauer killing every single person he comes in contact with.

  14. GAWire says:

    Seriously, Bull … please don’t ever compare John McCain and Ronal Reagan and sure as hell don’t try to argue that he McCain is the only one to carry on Reagan’s legacy.

    McCain couldn’t carry Reagan’s legacy even with a freight train of cargo crates.

  15. Bull Moose says:

    I’m sorry that it bothers you so GAWire, but McCain is the true conservative heir to the Reagan legacy.

    None of you have given any reason why you don’t like McCain other than you don’t like McCain. That’s weak.

  16. GAWire says:

    How about … I don’t like McCain because he’s not a Republican. Is that good enough for you?

  17. Icarus says:

    Bull,

    You seem to find a few faults in the others that you’re willing to overlook in McCain:

    “Giuliani has serious questions about not only his conservative credentials, but his past decisions regarding his family life. That speaks volumes about a persons character. Gingrich left his previous wives in the middle of serious medical situations (who does that?) and his ego got so bad in the 90’s that he self destructed. ”

    McCain clearly has problems with some aspects of his conservative credentials (see: McCain Feingold, see: Voted ‘NO’ on Bush Tax Cuts).

    Issues with previous wives – I’m not 100% sure, but McCain has admitted to past infidelity in his first marraige if I’m not mistaken. If I am, please correct me, and I apologize in advance, and will do so again if corrected.

    And then there’s the self-destructing ego comment. McCain’s ego has kept him a one man island in the Senate. He has very few true friends there because of his prima donna attitude, and his willingness to sacrifice the Republican Agenda for personal headlines.

    So, there’s a few reasons. And with that said, I haven’t even ruled out the possibility I would vote for him, because each of our front runners has flaws. But at this point, I don’t see McCain still in the top tier when voting finally begins.

  18. Bull Moose says:

    Well, GAWire, that’s even weaker than I expected. McCain is a common sense conservative Republican by any definition of the word.

    Just because he’s not a rhetorical hair blown made for TV candidate that you prefer, doesn’t mean he’s not a Republican.

    In these times, we need someone who’s going to tell it like it is and can lead the country forward, unified, away from the politics of rhetoric.

    McCain is not only a Republican, he’s a true leader. So agree to disagree.

  19. rugby_fan says:

    Bull; one does not have to have a reason to not like something (eg: I’m not a fan of Bean Sprouts. Why, I just don’t like them).

    The last thing McCain is, is a conservative. Except for the past few years, he positioned himself as a moderate maverick.

    Anyone who doesn’t vote for the Bush tax-cuts can not be considered a conservative.

  20. GAWire says:

    Oh wow, I got so tired of reading Bull’s sh&%-filled comments that I initially missed this comment:

    “””Gingrich left his previous wives in the middle of serious medical situations (who does that?) and his ego got so bad in the 90’s that he self destructed. ””””

    Bull, you probably get your information from the AJC too, don’t you? So, you know about Newt and what he apparently did? Tell us about it, asshole! Since you seem to be an expert on those details, why don’t you educate us.

    You’re spreading shit around in order to get people to support McCain, yet you don’t know you ass from the hole you speak out of, yet you want us to believe your heart wrenching appeals to vote for someone you don’t even really know about who you call the Ronald Reagan legacy.

    Here’s an idea … why don’t you leave. Stop talking about politics. It doesn’t suit you and you sure as hell don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.

    Until you’ve been around, have some experience and actually have an idea about the things you are saying, I would recommend keeping those misinformed, dumbass comments to yourself!

    And btw, yes, McCain has discussed previous infidelities and marial issues, not that that has any impact on my dislike for him.

  21. Brian from Ellijay says:

    Newt announces OCT 1st.

    Any takers?

    Clint,
    BTW McCain is DOA . He could barely win a SC straw poll and he was the only candidate concentrating on it. Sorry man. Conservatives are not the “extreme right” but the center of our party. Well my party (the Republican party) at least.

    Mitt/Newt 2008 Newt/Mitt 2008

  22. rightofcenter says:

    Gawire,
    Pardon me, but I must point out that your points can be made much better with out the vindictive, rude, insulting, vulgar language. Did you go to the Ann Coulter (or Bill Simon) Charm School?

    And is it necessary to throw out incendiary comments about someone (i.e. Matt Towery) that you personally dislike?

    Two words: Grow up.

  23. GAWire says:

    rightofcenter,

    Two words: eat shit.

    And FYI, I went to the Bill Simon Charm School. It’s right next door to the Kiss My Ass Academy.

    As for the necessity to throw out incendiary comments about Matt Towery, yes it is indeed necessary. It’s not the I personally dislike him – it’s just that I’m compelled to remind everyone about his Primary Day webcast saying exit polls show Ralph Reed winning by 10 points.

  24. GAWire says:

    rightofcenter, I should also point out that my comments were not directed at you – they were directed at Bull. Perhaps you should stay out of it. Or, dive in … who cares. But at this point, I’m not in the mood for your recommendations or your insight on how I could make my points.

  25. McCain conservative? Nope.

    Lets take a look Bull.

    Voted No on tax cuts.
    McCain Feingold
    McCain Kennedy
    McCain Lieberman(not as bad)
    Keating 5
    Gang of 14
    Does not attend CPAC
    Voted to ban drilling in ANWR
    Voted to allow Guest worker program
    Voted to all guest workers path to citizenship
    Voted to allow illagals on social security

    And a quote to finish things off, “we don’t need ballot initiatives that make people think we want them to abandon their hopes because some of us don’t believe the American Dream is big enough to share anymore.” So basically he is saying that no only is the Federal Government not going to fix the immigration problem but the State’s cant fix them either, much less let the voters have a say!

    I am sure we can come up with some more but this is a pretty good start to establishing that McCain is not a conservative.

  26. CHelf says:

    For each one of those, the other candidates can accumulate a list that long as well. Who do you recommend? Keep in mind our President was on the same page with a few of these.

  27. JasonW says:

    Wow, GAWire, a little brash there, aren’t we. I don’t like McCain either, and don’t think he is a conservative, but I think we should all bring the rhetoric down a notch. It would make this debate a lot more meaningful and useful.

    And Bull, While I agree that McCain has a long history with Reagan, and that they were in fact good friends, I think that Reagan would be deeply dissappointed in some of Sen. McCain’s decisions and votes. He has strayed from some of the conservative principles that Steve Davis mentioned. The only one that I would strike from that list is the Gang of 14, which I supported, because the compromise was the only way that we were gonna get 2 of the most qualified judges in the country confirmed…However, my biggest personal complaint of McCain is how he acted after he lost the 2000 primary. He acted like a total “Al Gore” (as in Sore Loserman…er Loser) and held a grudge against the President, not because of the issues, but because of that race. That is why I lost a lot of respect for Sen. McCain.

  28. CHelf says:

    JasonW,

    You could also drop the amnesty item from that list if you’re discussing Reagan as well.

  29. LoyaltyIsMyHonor says:

    I don’t like McCain because he thinks for himself. Who needs that here in Georgia?

  30. GAWire says:

    Jason, Rhetoric is politics, so dive in or stay out. If my brash-ness is wrinkling your skirt and getting you in a tivvy, then gee, I’m so sorry, I didn’t mean to fog your insight with my brash rhetoric.

    As for your arguments about McCain, you are correct about his behavior after 2000, but I will just add to that that he never let that go. McCain has been driven by revenge – perhaps for much of his career. He thrives on the power he gets when he can hold leverage over people and get under their skin. He doesn’t support or oppose things based on policy – he does it completely based on his personal motivations (not even completely based on politics). Sure, for all of us people who don’t want to see Ralph Reed in politics, that helped us, but let’s be honest – his efforts against Reed’s crew were based on his own personal motivations – not introducing ethics into lobbying or whatever. He’s an obstructionist of the worst kind, b/c he creates obstructions only to benefit himself.

    I could not think of a worse leader than John McCain (from the GOP at least).

    Oh and who cares if he was friends with Reagan or whatever. So what … I met Reagan once – does that make me good enough to carry the Reagan legacy and all that bullcrap?

  31. sethweathers says:

    i would actually be thrilled to vote for Newt… i dont see any other candidates that i would be “thrilled” to vote for.

    i’m curious to see how it all plays out… he may have a better chance than the media is giving him right now!

  32. Bill Simon says:

    “Rhetoric is politics”…how utterly assinine a statement. Oh, wait…GaWire said it. Nevermind.

    By the way, GaWire failed to fill-out his application to my charm school, so, he didn’t attend.

    See, you cannot be a pussy and attend my school…and GaWire is one major pussy who is unable to blog under his own name.

  33. joshdondich says:

    Forget about state senators under the gold dome peddling for Gingrich, and others who are backing Mccain and Romney. I know who is likely to win the primary carring NY, CA and MN. etc and has real leadership experience out any of the presidential candidates his name is Rudy Giulliani.

  34. drjay says:

    politicalwire cites a story from nat’l journal that wonders aloud whether the thompson thing is a ruse to carral some conservatives into the mccain camp (thompson did support him in 2000 and had been a bit of an “advisor” to him recently)–i guess it would go like this–thompson excites some folks and gets endorsements and such and then bows out and shuttles the folks he picked up into the mccain campaign somehow–wow that would really turn me off if it turns out to be true…

    http://politicalinsider.com/2007/03/thompsons_support_for_mccain_e.html

  35. GAWire says:

    Bill, you mean you didn’t receive my application? I submitted it right about the time your candidate was running against Tom Price, so maybe it got lost “in the mix.”

    Also, you might need to save that kind of language for your porn site advertisers on Political Vine!

    How’s that going for you, by the way?

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