Lots of Talk About Marshall This Week

The AP is looking at him today.

Conservative Georgia Democrat Jim Marshall is accustomed to breaking ranks with his colleagues in Congress when he thinks the party is shifting too far left.

I don’t really think he will run against Saxby in 2008 right now, but he just may. He’s certainly positioning himself to the right of the federal Democratic leadership. I do think, however, that Jim Marshall increasingly is one of the few Democrats who could win statewide.

I think Cathy Cox is another one who could now win statewide, after what happened in 2006.



  1. drjay says:

    i think the idea of what dems could win statewide office is a very complicated issue that has few blanket statement answers–racial politics and incumbency are big parts of the puzzle–barring a phemomonal gop year w/ a reagan like figure at the top of the ticket baker can probably remain as the a.g. for as long as he chooses but i do not think he would ever be elected to the senate or become guv, thurmond might could win some other down ticket race–but he also will never be a guv or senator, cleland might still play statewide –depending on the race and mood of the electorate, same w/ marshall, i’m not really sure who else at this point…

  2. drjay says:

    irvin might could keep the ag commish in dem hands if he were to handpick a successor and really work for them in 2010

  3. Bull Moose says:

    I think this is an interesting post.

    The tilt to the GOP is temporary as we have seen on the national level.

    Eventually, the public sours on the party in power and looks for alternatives. It’s usually issues of arrogance, abuse of power, or something big that creates the change.

    With that said, something has to fill the void.

    Mark Taylor was a flawed 2006 candidate for Governor. He could not fill the void. And some might say that there was not a void to be filled.

    Sonny surely wasn’t controversial. Many would say that he’s been a very incremental Governor, playing on the edges of issues and not really taking on any of the big issues that face our state like education reform, tax reform, reform of state government, health care reform, etc…

    I think that had Cathy Cox emerged as the 2006 nominee she may have been able to create a void to be filled. She was an acceptable candidate to many Republicans, whereas Mark Taylor was seen as an opportunistic freeloader.

    Going forward in our state, 2008 will be interesting. On some levels, Saxby should have an easy time at winning reelection. But, Democrats do not respect him at all, largely due to the way his campaigned maligned Max Cleland. The Senator himself only flames the fire by refusing to acknowledge his campaign did anything wrong in the first place.

    So can Democrats in Georgia find someone that can exploit that situation and offer an acceptable alternative?

    I would argue that it can’t be a rhetorical Democrat nor can it be someone seen as a freeloader, meaning, a pure opportunistic Democrat will be seen for what they are.

    Rather, it will take a sincere, committed Democrat who can articulate policy positions and can reach out to the “just folks” of Georgia.

    Who matches that? Sanford Bishop instantly comes to mind. Another Democrat that comes to mind is Thurbert Baker. And I think you have to look back a bit and look to Lewis Massey. I would even be so bold as to say that Roy Barnes would be someone taken serious.

    Remember, a good candidate is going to start off with 45-58% of the vote. All they have to do is peal off a few more points and it’s a done deal.

    I say all this as a person who enjoys the game of politics. Personally, I think Saxby does a pretty good job and deserves to be reelected.

  4. SevenHillsDem says:

    Marshall’s biggest problem is that he could work very hard and really run a great campaign and probably get 47-48%. I just don’t think he’ll do it. He can have that House seat as long as he wants it.

    I think it’s time to start looking beyond who’s currently in office.

  5. drjay says:

    maybe i am too cynical and maybe the electorate will prove me wrong one day–but even in southwest ga where bishop racks up impressive numbers in a “gop district” he has had the power of incumbency and some weak opponents–as had baker who was appted originally–i beleive thurmond is the only politician of color in ga to win a seat statewide w/out the beneift of having been appted to said seat–i wonder aloud whether bubba 6pack who might vote for a “good ole boy” dem to be say senator would actually pull the lever for a baker when they are all alone in the voting booth w/ noone watching…

  6. DeacfromGA says:

    Marshall shouldn’t run in 08, he should run in 2010 for Governor, when there is no R heir apparent. He could start raising money 2 years before the election.

  7. DutchDawg says:

    Marshall will run in ’08. Despite all of his “bold, non-partisan stances” he is a manipulative, grudge-holding, vindictive SOB. He took the butt-whipping Saxby gave him in ’98 personally, evidenced by the fact he NEVER conceded, despite losing by 20 points. He’ll run, and you have to believe he stands a pretty good chance. The guy is tough as nails, runs an awesome media campaign, and will now (despite his fence-straddling) have national support. Bank on it.

  8. CobbGOPer says:

    Marshall would probably be the best choice for Dems in the ’10 gov race. He’d have to raise his statewide name id some in the intervening years, but that wouldn’t be a problem. He can raise money, and he’s conservative enough to be able to gain traction in the rural parts of the state (obviously, since the vast majority of his district is of this classification).

    Seems to me if he can raise enough money, that would be where he should focus his efforts. Why waste his time, money, and political capitol in what would be a very tough fight for the Senate, in order to go to a political body where there’s more gridlock than I-75 at rush hour?

    Much better to hold off and make a run at an open Governor’s Mansion…

  9. Bull Moose says:

    Personally, I am beginning to think that health care and the environment are going to be the issues that brings down the GA GOP and opens the door for Republicans.

  10. SevenHillsDem says:

    Bull Moose, I agree. Environmental and health care issues are winning ones for Democrats. I wouldn’t count out education and stem cell research, which polls pretty well in GA.

  11. bowersville says:

    Rugby, where do you get your information that Yolanda(daughter), David, Johnny or James are running for DoAg?

    My wife is an Irvin of Habersham County, we haven’t heard it.

    Yes, we cancel each others vote every election, in georgia politics, we are Carville & Madlin.

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